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theCMEguy Anyone
up for #ACCMEchat during the webinar this afternoon?
brandeeplott @thecmeguy
Maybe me. I'll be listening. #ACCMEchat #CMEchat
theCMEguy I'm
planning to tweet today's ACCME webinar using the #ACCMEchat hashtag
t.co/vh5gC0oAYL Hope other #CMEchat -ers join in!
theCMEguy Unless
of course, the ACCME or anyone else has a better hashtag to use #CMEchat
#ACCMEchat
vivacityconsult @theCMEguy
#ACCMEchat I'm up for it. Tminus 9 minutes. Better re-read the proposed
changes!
theCMEguy I
can't seem to get on it...RT @vivacityconsult: @theCMEguy #ACCMEchat I'm up for
it. Tminus 9 minutes. Better re-read the proposed changes!
theCMEguy Well,
I have audio, but no video. I'll give it a shot #accmechat
vivacityconsult Murray
Kopelow says trying to increase alignment with all elements of physicians'
regulatory requirements #accmechat
vivacityconsult Important
- nothing is changing today in ACCME requirements #accmechat
theCMEguy Kopelow:
Communication channels are open. No changes will happen today. Discussion
first, changes later #accmechat
brandeeplott Anyone
else a surveyor? #accmechat
elearningCME Kopelow:
Nothing is changing...today #accmechat
vivacityconsult ACCME
was told by over 1000 cme stakeholders that they did not clearly communicate
their expectations #accmechat
theCMEguy Kopelow:
feedback is that the requirements are not clear. Want changes, but not lowering
the bar of standards #accmechat
theCMEguy Kopelow:
Feedback showed providers want to maintain the 3-step process for
reaccreditation #accmechat
elearningCME Kopelow:
Retaining 3-part process (self study, doc review, and Interview) #accmechat
brandeeplott Wonder
what the timeline for all this is. #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: How do we know providers are doing what we ask? Through verification
of documentation
elearningCME Kopelow:
Feedback was to retain verification by documentation but that the requirements
were onerous. #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: Providers want a criterion based process for AwithC, not a return to
"system of old days"
brandeeplott Menu
of items for commendation #accmechat
vivacityconsult ACCME
providers wanted a clear understanding of commendation but many thought there
might be options/menu #accmechat
elearningCME Kopelow:
Evolving commendation so that a menu of options will be considered supporting
verification. #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: Providers like templates and rely on the ACCME for them
brandeeplott Credit
system should be aligned #accmechat
vivacityconsult ACCME
was asked to address regulatory alignment (this is a big one for me!) looking
forward to hearing more on this soon #accmechat
brandeeplott If
leadership engaged, full value of CME realized. #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: removing requirement of some elements from mission statement since no
longer relevant due to changes in def of Comm Int
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: EM's, web activity, journals: propose dropping some of front matter
info that is less valuable. Me: Yay!
brandeeplott Logos
no longer to be used in educational materials. #accmechat
elearningCME No more
corporate logos. #accmechat
MAGCME Like
what I hear from Dr. Kopelow so far. #ACCMEchat
meducate #accmechat
So goes the logos. Recommend not using logos on educational materials
brandeeplott Corporate
logos for commercial supporters, that is. #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: SCS change: no use of CI logo in educational material, disclosures,
acknowledgment of commercial support
SeanTSaunders Dbl yay!
RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat EM's, web activity, journals: propose dropping some
of front matter info that is less valuable. Me: Yay!
elearningCME Adios
Criteria #4 - redundant with #2 #accmechat
MAGCME About
time that it was proposed to drop C4. #ACCMEchat
brandeeplott As a
surveyor, AMEN to that. #accmechat
meducate #accmechat
Recommend removing C4 because it overlaps with C2 - need to insure that the
combined criterion is inclusive
improvecme #Accmechat
What effect will these changes have on the fees charged by the accme?
theCMEguy From
Redundancy Department of Redundancy RT @elearningCME: Adios Criteria #4 -
redundant with #2 #accmechat
vivacityconsult ACCME
proposing to drop first 4 parts of the Mission Statement #accmechat
MAGCME Mission
statement changes - just focus on expected results. That is what the accred
system cares about. #ACCMEchat
meducate #accmechat
Expected results is what we care about - modify C1 accordingly
elearningCME Adios
C14 and C15...also C12/13 to be combined. #accmechat
brandeeplott Interestingly,
many providers still do not understand the difference between competence,
performance, and PO. #accmechat
elearningCME C1 to
focus on expected results #accmechat
meducate I
like this one a lot RT @elearningCME: Adios C14 and C15...also C12/13 to be
combined. #accmechat
brandeeplott @improvecme
They said their goal is to make it less expensive. How? No clue. #accmechat
vivacityconsult ACCME
proposing to dropping the last 3 criteria - Kopelow says the Circle Planning
would be "merging this into a single unit" #accmechat
MAGCME C14
and C15 would be eliminated. C12/13 to be combined. I like this. #ACCMEchat
brandeeplott Target
is 100% providers w/ commendation. #accmechat
vivacityconsult RT
@brandeeplott: Interestingly, many providers still do not understand the
difference between competence, performance, and PO. #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: Goal is to 100% of providers with Accreditation with Commendation.
Currently at 30%.
meducate #accmechat
ACCME wants 100% of providers achieving accreditation with commendation
vivacityconsult @brandeeplott
It's as I thought at first glance - these changes may be simplified but they
are not SIMPLE. #accmechat
meducate 35%
RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Kopelow: Goal is to 100% of providers with
Accreditation with Commendation. Currently at 30%.
elearningCME C16,
C18, and C22 not contributing to identification of commendable
orgs...so...adios. #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Me: Does A with C lose it's oomph if 100% of providers have it?
brandeeplott But if
any provider can get commendation, how will best providers be set apart?
#accmechat
meducate It
becomes baseline and have to set bar higher RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Me: Does
A with C lose it's oomph if 100% of providers have it?
brandeeplott @thecmeguy
Had same thought! #accmechat
vivacityconsult @brandeeplott
@improvecme I thought they meant staff time & effort when they said
they want to reduce "cost" - not lowering fees #accmechat
SeanTSaunders I asked
myself that same question RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Me: Does A with C lose it's
oomph if 100% of providers have it?
elearningCME Menu
for commendation may include: Integrating HIT, Individualized Learning,
Interprof. Practice...plus others to be defined #accmechat
theCMEguy @meducate
Accreditation with Super Duper Commendation? :-) #ACCMEchat
brandeeplott @vivacityconsult
Probably right.#accmechat
BrianSMcGowan Just
tuning into the #ACCMEchat - webinar from the #ACCME...sorry to miss the first
25 mins.
elearningCME Proposed
structured abstract form replaces performance-in-practice labels #accmechat
StMarysCME Goodbye
labels! #accmechat
vivacityconsult ACCME
possibly providing a template for the activity files? Not sure I like this
#accmechat
BrianSMcGowan impressed.
RT @thecmeguy: Kopelow: Communication channels are open. No changes will happen
today. Discussion first, changes later #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: changes to PinP files. More descriptive and attachments. Less
labeling. Me like.
meducate A
with Distinction RT @theCMEguy: @meducate Accreditation with Super Duper
Commendation? :-) #ACCMEchat
brandeeplott This
will be so helpful to surveyors. #accmechat
BrianSMcGowan have
they made any suggestions about this? RT @brandeeplott: Wonder what the
timeline for all this is. #accmechat
BrianSMcGowan New
dawn for the ACCME? #fingerscrossed RT @magcme: Like what I hear from Dr.
Kopelow so far. #ACCMEchat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: leaves us with a "simpler set" that does not lower the bar
or standards
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
Not yet #accmechat.
elearningCME Kopelow:
Not lowering the bar, but supporting development of a "simpler set"
of documentation #accmechat
MAGCME I
like the proposed changes to performance in practice files. Abstract form is
good. #ACCMEchat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
I am enjoying this focus by the ACCME on simplification. Very much needed.
BrianSMcGowan Does
#CCMEP lose value if....#OhNevermind RT @thecmeguy: #ACCMEchat Me: Does A with
C lose it's oomph if 100% of providers have it?
improvecme #accmechat
If there is less time involved for accme to administer reviews, shouldn't the
fee be reduced?
brandeeplott Like
the part about integrating #healthIT #accmechat
meducate #accmechat
I like the idea of a menu of options for accreditation with commendation
vivacityconsult @elearningCME
If so, that seems to be ok. But if it means filling out more forms or creating
new documentation, then blech. #accmechat
theCMEguy Agreed.
Allows for some individuality RT @meducate: #accmechat I like the idea of a
menu of options for accreditation with commendation
elearningCME C1, C2,
C3, C5, C6, C7-10, C11, C12/13, C17, C19, C20, C21...my quick count of what
remains #accmechat
BrianSMcGowan .@improvecme
- has fee for review always been based on cost of review, or some
market-sensitive dues-like model? #ACCMEchat
brandeeplott No
labels great. Providers don't label things correctly anyway. #accmechat
meducate Me
too. Might be difficult for some
provider types RT @brandeeplott: Like the part about integrating #healthIT
#accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: ACCME BOD very interested in hearing provider feedback
vivacityconsult @theCMEguy
@meducate Absolutely agree. Med ed company can do great things, as can small hospital.
But not the same great things. #accmechat
elearningCME @meducate
Yes - and would like to see a system where innovation can be rewarded by
proposal and recog. of new menu items #accmechat
StMarysCME Encouraging. RT @elearningcme: Kopelow: Not lowering the
bar, but supporting development of a "simpler set" of documentation
#accmechat
improvecme #accmechat
New approach to AC a very welcome change. Recognizes diversity of providers.
Nice flexibility.
brandeeplott I hope
every surveyor comments. #accmechat
meducate As
long as we can find the info! RT @brandeeplott: No labels great. Providers
don't label things correctly anyway. #accmechat
MAGCME RT
@elearningCME: C1, C2, C3, C5, C6, C7-10, C11, C12/13, C17, C19, C20, C21...my
quick count of what remains #accmechat
elearningCME Next
step: informal feedback, ACCME BOD review, then formal call for comment, then
BOD decides...so nothing for 8 years or so #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: There will be a formal Call-for-comment before any final decisions are
made
vivacityconsult ACCME
timeline 4 implementation - July 2nd feedback requested via online survey,Then
another series of steps. Nothing changes now #accmechat
SeanTSaunders I
especially like that myself RT @meducate: #accmechat I like the idea of a menu
of options for accreditation with commendation
StMarysCME What is
the timeline on development of changes like this? #ACCMEchat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
RT @BrianSMcGowan: ACCME survey on the "Simplification and Evolution"
proposal is live - t.co/zyE5Q5evmG #CMEchat
vivacityconsult Provide
your feedback here: t.co/vCzHMhSnh6 #accmechat
BrianSMcGowan ACCME
survey on the "Simplification and Evolution" proposal is live -
#ACCMEchat - t.co/I2HsC9GrDw #CMEchat
elearningCME Did I
say 8 years? I meant 12 #accmechat #sarcasm So no real timeline at the present
brandeeplott @seantsaunders
@meducate maybe even a subcategorize (sp?) commedation? #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Q: has ACCME sought input from any other accrediting partners (ACPE, ANCC). A:
Yes, to partners; No, to Alliance, Sacme, etc
brandeeplott Wonder
why they didn't add anything pertaining to interdisciplinary. #accmechat
BrianSMcGowan Not
sure there is a good way to answer the question - feedback from individuals is
easier than feedback from organizations. #ACCMEchat
theCMEguy @brandeeplott
There is in the new A with C, I think... #ACCMEchat
ArdgillanGroup Nice
clear presentation on proposed changes to accreditation #ACCMEchat some
encouraging changes proposed
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: Comment from audience, "This might save the world of CME..."
Wow. #notsureaboutthat
BrianSMcGowan "This
might save the world of CME for a lot of people...thanks for trying to hear
us..." - not a question, but nice! #ACCMEchat
vivacityconsult ACCME
webinar: Not sure post-webinar questions are useful until Diane Durham asked
about timeline. #accmechat
brandeeplott Apr
2014? Really? #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Kopelow: Timeline: Initial comments: due July 2. BOD meets July 11. End of official
call for comment in April 2014...
elearningCME Kopelow:
BOD meeting in July, then again in the fall. Call for comment would be April
2014 at soonest #accmechat
vivacityconsult @brandeeplott
I think they did in the new Commendation criteria options ... ?? #readitquickly #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
...dual systems of implementation for a time when it does actually happen. No
easy answer.
StMarysCME Timeline-
July 2 Feedback due, Board meets Fall '13, Plan developed/approved. Apr. '14, Call for Comment, If accepted. .
.#accmechat
brandeeplott Wonder
how many providers that dropped their accreditation wouldn't have if they'd
known. #accmechat
ArdgillanGroup April
2014 to end of call for comments seems unnecessarily extended?#ACCMEchat.
BrianSMcGowan My
hand is down - #preemptive #ACCMEchat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Lots of questions on Twitter... #hinthint
BrianSMcGowan Great
question! RT @brandeeplott: Wonder how many providers that dropped their
accreditation wouldn't have if they'd known. #accmechat
elearningCME Q&A
session now going off the tracks #greenarrows #redarrows #accmechat
meducate Good
man RT @BrianSMcGowan: My hand is down - #preemptive #ACCMEchat
theCMEguy I
blame Obama RT @elearningCME: Q&A session now going off the tracks
#greenarrows #redarrows #accmechat
beth333SP I
hope that AwC can be achieved thru meaningful partnerships between provider
types. Example: MEC provider and HealthIT, please? #ACCMEchat
meducate Raise
your hand...RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Lots of questions on Twitter... #hinthint
YogAlicia3 RT
@theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Kopelow: Timeline: Initial comments: due July 2. BOD
meets July 11. End of official call for comment in April 2014...
BrianSMcGowan First
time caller, long time listener. #ACCMEchat
theCMEguy RT
@meducate: Raise your hand...RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Lots of questions on
Twitter... #hinthint t.co/QYo9ieZuIg
ArdgillanGroup @beth333SP
looks like a possibility to me - IF changes come through and new menu is
implemented #ACCMEchat a good move
meducate #accmechat
Anybody know that old Club Med song "Hands Up?"
SeanTSaunders Yes, pls!
RT @beth333SP: hope AwC can be achieved thru meaningful partnerships btwn
provider types. Ex: MEC & HealthIT, please? #ACCMEchat
beth333SP @BrianSMcGowan
@theCMEGuy @meducate @ArdgillanGroup How about a cocktail party in Blue Bell to
discuss these changes? #ACCMEchat
elearningCME BTW -
the GTM green/red/up/down hand UI is horrible. It's non-intuitive and
confusing. #sidecomment #accmechat #usabilitylesson
vivacityconsult FYI,
IMQ in CA will be polling their providers to submit one large blanket reply on
changes. #accmechat
ArdgillanGroup Quite
the virtual group hug ! #ACCMEchat
theCMEguy Wow,
an ACCME lovefest has broken out #ACCMEchat
BrianSMcGowan "You
have restored my faith...thank you..." - It should be known that ACCME is
NOT screening the calls. #WithoutANet #ACCMEchat
elearningCME Love
fest for proposed changes continues "Thanks for listening to us!" Any
good org is always inclusive, collab., and listening #accmechat
spelletier Never
thought I'd hear those words! RT @theCMEguy: Wow, an ACCME lovefest has broken
out #ACCMEchat
vivacityconsult @vivacityconsult
@MAGCME MAG, will you be doing the same? #accmechat
theCMEguy Nice
RT @vivacityconsult: FYI, IMQ in CA will be polling their providers to submit
one large blanket reply on changes. #accmechat
BrianSMcGowan Have
to ask, what is changed in the past year to lead to these changes? Community
wanted this 5+ years ago, no? #ACCMEchat #longtimecoming
meducate Or
print! RT @spelletier: Never thought I'd hear those words! RT @theCMEguy: Wow,
an ACCME lovefest has broken out #ACCMEchat
theCMEguy Took
that long to process RT @BrianSMcGowan: Community wanted this 5+ years ago, no?
#ACCMEchat #longtimecoming
brandeeplott Kopelow:
1 PPG can cover a whole meeting. #accmechat
elearningCME Better
question: why did they think going to the current rules and criteria was a good
idea? @theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan #accmechat
BrianSMcGowan Was
the bar set so low by the ACCME - listening, servant leadership - that these
changes are being received so well? #ACCMEchat #Nonetheless
vivacityconsult Kopelow:
continuous accreditation has been discussed but never looked at a 10 year
accreditation period. #accmechat
theCMEguy #ACCMEchat
Q: Possibility of longer time of accreditation?. A: Have only looked at
"continuous" accreditation.
SeanTSaunders Glad the
? was asked RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Q: Possibility of longer time of accred?
A: Have only looked at "continuous" accreditation.
theCMEguy uh
oh...can someone pick-up my kids at school? #ACCMEchat
BrianSMcGowan ...and
Dr. K is willing to stick around for extra time to answer more questions?
#ACCMEchat #Whatishappeninghere #OMG
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
It's because the feedback is good. #accmechat
vivacityconsult #accmechat
@theCMEguy Derek, thank you for initiating this tweet-fest. Go get those kids!
brandeeplott @vivacityconsult
@theCMEguy Yep, aswesome Derek. #accmechat
theCMEguy @vivacityconsult
meh, they can wait. It's not raining. DR KOPELOW HAS ME RIVETED! #ACCMEchat
BrianSMcGowan Kopelow:
"we r already interacting w/other Orgs w/i medicine to utilize CME as an
essential element in HC improvement" #ACCMEchat #socialQI?
beth333SP Applause
for @theCMEguy (with your green or red hands) for initiating this tweet chat
#ACCMEchat
BrianSMcGowan "ACCME
cld make a rule that CEO needs to be a member of your local CME
committee..." #ACCMEchat >> not in the plans, but option for
AwC...
vivacityconsult ACCME
webinar: getting commendation for being committed to CPD? Does #accmechat
count?
spelletier Is
anyone archiving this? Be good to have #ACCMEchat
BrianSMcGowan "Leadership
is critical and an important element in connecting CME to the greater
healthcare improvement" #ACCMEchat #socialQI
beth333SP I nominate
@theCMEguy... @spelletier: Is anyone archiving this? Be good to have #ACCMEchat
vivacityconsult ACCME
webinar: not sure I agree that organizations do better with physician
leadership but DO need physician CME champions! #accmechat
spelletier @beth333SP
I second! @theCMEguy, you in? #ACCMEchat
BrianSMcGowan Take
away: if ACCME would've applied efforts & focus in the right place for
the past decade, we'd be in a much better place! #ACCMEchat 1/2
vivacityconsult Kopelow:
these proposals remove some items but they LEAVE the most important parts.
#accmechat
beth333SP Aug
Bridge to Accred workshop in Chicago still valuable, don't put it off if you
plan to attend (and I'll see you there) #ACCMEchat
BrianSMcGowan Take
away: that being said...we must hold them accountable to serve &
support the community w/ this level of openness! #ACCMEchat 2/2
Today we
explore ways to connect learners and infuse elements of social learning into
our initiatives w/ or w/o technology #CMEChat
T1: To level
set, what does social learning mean to you in #meded? What are the strengths
and weaknesses of the various models #CMEchat
T2: What are
the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities
into small-group LIVE learning (< 50) #CMEchat
T3: What are
the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities
into large-group LIVE learning (> 50) #CMEchat
T4: What are
the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities
into traditionally isolated online leaning #CMEchat
You can review the archive of #CMEchat 75 below or download it HERE:
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BrianSMcGowan Join us in 3 HOURS for #CMEchat 75 - This week's theme: "How might social learning transform medical education" #meded
BrianSMcGowan Join us in 60 MINUTES for #CMEchat 75 - This week's theme: "How might social learning transform medical education" #meded
BrianSMcGowan Join us in 2 HOURS for #CMEchat 75 - This week's theme: "How might social learning transform medical education" #meded
MGHAcademy RT @briansmcgowan: Patient-centered care requires a patient-oriented workflow model t.co/4lh8pj3e0c #S4PM #meded #CMEchat #PCMH
rajdevmd RT @BrianSMcGowan: Physical activity counselling in sports medicine: a call to action. t.co/BVdJvFjYZd #meded #CMEChat >> Great call for #socialQI
elearningCME RT @JaneBozarth: Objections to social media: Here we go again. AKA: Bell invents the telephone. #CMEChat #ASTD2013 t.co/FKofEZJkUj
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 12pt;">theCMEguy RT @elearningCME: RT @JaneBozarth: Objections to social media: Here we go again. AKA: Bell invents the telephone. #CMEChat #ASTD2013 t.co/FKofEZJkUj
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 12pt;">BrianSMcGowan Join us in 15 MINUTES for #CMEchat 75 - This week's theme: "How might social learning transform medical education" #meded
BrianSMcGowan Simulation 2.0: A Test Lab for Health Care Transformation t.co/ZVFyGblX2U #meded #CMEchat
CMEChat Welcome to #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion & not that of current, past, or future employers.
CMEChat As we get started, please introduce yourself: Location? Focus? Favorite topics? What brings you here today? #CMEchat
CMEChat A new question will be asked every 8-10 min or so. If you can, please include “T#...†in related responses. #CMEchat
CMEChat Please remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the participants can follow the #CMEchat discussion
CMEChat Topics will guide the discussion, but real learning & teaching lies in your tweets - please engage. #CMEchat
CMEChat The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived at t.co/iQhIRipKmr shortly after the session has ended.
BrianSMcGowan Good morning #CMEchat-ters...hope everyone had a great weekend! Brian here moderating this week's discussion!
BrianSMcGowan lets give folks a few extra minutes to gather....#CMEchat
theCMEguy Derek in warm and humid Chestnut Hill #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy hey D. Hope all is well....#CMEChat
beth333SP Beth Brillinger, Accred Dir from CME Outfitters, checking in from Blue Bell, PA. Ready to learn. #CMEChat
elearningCME Scott in Chicago #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @beth333SP - and hi to you too! #CMEchat
aCMEstory Good morning. Greselda here from DC metro region/technology corridor. Ready to learn and #CMEchat.
CMEChat There’s lots of buzz around ‘collective’ or ‘social’ learning, especially w/ new tech, but the idea is not all that new in #meded. #CMEchat
theCMEguy Yo. 11 AM and all is well. RT @BrianSMcGowan: @theCMEguy hey D. Hope all is well....#CMEChat
beth333SP Hello my friend! @BrianSMcGowan: @beth333SP - and hi to you too! #CMEchat
CMEChat Today we explore ways to connect learners and infuse elements of social learning into our initiatives w/ or w/o technology #CMEChat
BrianSMcGowan G'morning to @elearningCME and @aCMEstory story! #CMEchat
CMEChat T1: To level set, what does social learning mean to you in #meded? What are the strengths and weaknesses of the various models #CMEchat
aCMEstory Wiki definition of social learning includes the intended product of the learning actions. t.co/KB72r1Yhab #SocialQI #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t1: To me, social learning is the direct or indirect use of others to shape my learning. Others referring to learners vs 'faculty' #CMEChat
BrianSMcGowan t1: sometime soclai learning means explicitly interacting...others times it is about comfort and security in 'not knowing together' #CMEchat
beth333SP T1 SoLe to me means incorporating as many new ways to bring in others to the learning process through new fangled shiny things. #CMEChat
theCMEguy #CMEchat #meow RT @theCMEguy: T1: Learning with others. Weakness: You're only as smart as those around you. #CMEcat
aCMEstory T1: For me, it's taking an isolated or individualized learning experience and filtering it through a broader network. #CMEchat
elearningCME T1: Learning from everyone, focus away from traditional experts, and more on peers around us #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T1: sometimes SoLe is planned and intentional (ask a Q), other times it is covert and serendipitous (looking around the room) #CMEchat
beth333SP T1 weakness - getting others to get involved and play along #CMEChat
theCMEguy @beth333SP #CMEcat likes bright shiny things... #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1: weakness: filter bubbles often give false sense of broad perspective...#CMEchat
aCMEstory T1: Pros-Broadeer perspective, deeper understanding through connection | Cons-Hard to determine quality of crowdsourced information #CMEchat
theCMEguy @elearningCME You can still have social learning w/ a facilitator/faculty though, no? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1: Weakness: SoLe may mislead you if others are pretending to be expert/ know more. Or have poorly self-assessed! #CMEchat
theCMEguy +1 MT @BrianSMcGowan: T1: Weakness: SoLe may mislead if others pretending to be expert/ know more. Or have poorly self-assessed! #CMEchat
beth333SP There ia a #CMEcat? meow @theCMEguy: @beth333SP #CMEcat likes bright shiny things... #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1: there is also the 'derivative' benefit - you may get a sense of what is important by watching others engagement. #CMEchat #misleading?
aCMEstory T1: Individual leaner still must extract value and relevance of info and that requires a new skill set. #CMEchat
elearningCME @theCMEguy Sure thing - SoLe is inclusive, not exclusive to "the only person I can learn from or can lead my learning is..." #cmechat
theCMEguy T1: Weakness: Depending on the setting, #SoLe can be dominated by extroverts in the group... #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t1: social learning may very well be critical in moving from knowledge to actions...few practice changes are isolated events! #CMEchat
theCMEguy Like MT @elearningCME: SoLe is inclusive, not exclusive to "the only person I can learn from or can lead my learning is..." #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan Lots of great suggestions for T1 - so we should have a good sense of what SoLe means to those participating....ready for T2? #CMEchat
theCMEguy @beth333SP There is when I forget to type the "h" in #CMEchat
aCMEstory MT @thecmeguy: T1: Weakness: Depending on the setting, #SoLe can be dominated by extroverts in the group... #CMEchat <Like all of us!>
beth333SP T1 I feel that SoMe and SoLe communications are a piece of the puzzle. I have a need to seek info elsewhere and confirm for myself. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan "here is #CMEdog #CMEchat
http://t.co/PS2AG925rv"
elearningCME T1: SoLe can also be more work: as a learner you need to evaluate the ideas around you and value judge their efficacy and relevance #cmechat
CMEChat T2: What are the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities into small-group LIVE learning (< 50) #CMEchat
beth333SP "He looks like he could take #CMEcat @BrianSMcGowan: here is #CMEdog #CMEchat http://t.co/aPe98tLWTN"
CMEChat T2: I acknoledge there is alot of SoLe already baked into live mtgs of any size, but how can we make it "just a little bit better" #CMEchat
theCMEguy T2: Live tweeting a meeting/conference with designated hashtag #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T2: room setting could be used to 'force' learners to engage...to watch...to connect...to share. (or it could prevent this!) #CMEchat
elearningCME T2: Encourage blogging from participants, and help gather a place where those blogs (and other SoMe re: tweets) can be shared #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy - true, but for me, the smaller the live meeting...the more engaging the room, the less critical I find SoMe #CMEchat #engaged
BrianSMcGowan t2: with < 50 there should be an opportunity to make meaningful connections - learners can find like-minded #LearnersLikeMe #CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan I guess depends on meeting and role of faculty. If poor facilitator, SoMe becomes more valuable to SoLe experience #CMEchat
aCMEstory T2: There may be limited experience, perspectives in small group. Engage/prep in advance to optimize #SoLe experience. #CMEchat
beth333SP T2 hashtag yes, but sometimes as the education provider tweeting the live meeting hashtag, feels a bit like, "Beuller,...Bueller.." #CMEchat
elearningCME @BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy but it can help you bring in perspectives and ideas from outside the room #cmechat #tweeting
BrianSMcGowan @elearningCME @theCMEguy - no doubt about that...#CMEchat
theCMEguy "RT @beth333SP: He looks like he could take #CMEcat @BrianSMcGowan: here is #CMEdog #CMEchat
t.co/gdKyqmouj5"
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 12pt;">BrianSMcGowan T2: the key to me is that learners get to know one another. #CMEchat #NotAlwaysPossible
aCMEstory T2: Make sure learners understand purpose, relevance of #SoLe to learning experience and use #SoMe post-activity to reinforce. #CMEchat
theCMEguy @beth333SP Yes, that would be one of the weaknesses. Have had both positive and...less positive experiences with it #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T2: critical differentiation b/w in house meeting and general access #meded. #Everybodyknowsyourname #CMEchat
CMEChat T3: What are the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities into large-group LIVE learning (> 50) #CMEchat
beth333SP +1 @aCMEstory: T2: Make sure learners und purpose, relev of #SoLe to learning experience and use #SoMe post-activity to reinforce. #CMEchat
elearningCME T2: Barrier to me is that as an educator, the learning becomes more out of your control...more variability, harder to predict #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T3: Have titles and institutions available to all attendees even if blinded for security - so learners know who is in the room #CMEchat
theCMEguy @elearningCME Have you done this? Did you actually get participants to blog? That's fantastic! #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T3: the barrier in large live meetings is the "noise" of SoLe both figurative and literal - need control of room, if not content. #CMEchat
theCMEguy T3: Build in coffee breaks so learners have a chance to meet/engage with those around them. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T3: ...but structure the coffee breaks so learners have something to do...not everyone wants 30 minutes to 'network'' #CMEchat #options
aCMEstory T3: Facilitate pre-learning self-assessment of current practice and readiness for change and share data with group in live setting. #CMEchat
elearningCME @BrianSMcGowan T3 - YES - as a planner and educator it is all about creating opportunities for the SoLe to happen...#dontforce it #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t3: historically we've heard how important the hallways conversations are, but no one has EVER studied why #SoLe #CMEchat #networking?
BrianSMcGowan @elearningCME #AllowIt #CMEchat...maybe even #nudgeIt...
theCMEguy #guilty Right. Should have emphasized SHORT breaks RT @BrianSMcGowan: T3...not everyone wants 30 minutes to 'network'' #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory - I love the idea that participants should come to the meeting with 3-5 questions they want answered. #PrimethePump #CMEchat
CMEChat T4: What r the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities into traditionally isolated ONLINE learning #CMEchat
elearningCME T3-Flipped conference - 30 minute sessions...60-90 minute "coffee breaks" and networking...#wonderwhatwouldhappen #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @elearningCME - IMO, the room would empty and people (the unmotivated) would go back to checking email or worse. #needsturcture #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T4: what about 'social reading' where you can see the crowdsourced notes or highlights of those who came before you? #CMEchat #kindle #nook
theCMEguy T4: Moderated comments section #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T4: another way to infuse SoLe into online learning is to show collective results for poll or survey questions. #notperfect #CMEchat
aCMEstory @briansmcgowan Love the idea of a "curated" reading list from my peers. #CMEchat
elearningCME Or IF effective MT @BrianSMcGowan: t3: we've heard how important the hallways conversations are, but no one has ever studied WHY #cmechat
beth333SP T4 Share the #primethepump pre questions, "this is what you told us you wanted" "Do you agree? Want more? Different?" #CMEChat
BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory... Here is my shared reading list! #cmechat t.co/iFoupFKuJK
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 12pt;">BrianSMcGowan T4: who much do you need to know about other learners b4 you'd trust their experiences/reactions? #CMEchat
elearningCME Great question RT @BrianSMcGowan: T4: who much do you need to know about other learners b4 you'd trust their experiences/reactions? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan #TOTD RT @beth333SP: T4 Share the #primethepump pre Q's, "this is what u told us you wanted" "Do you agree? Want more? Different?" #CMEChat
beth333SP I just don't @BrianSMcGowan: T4: who much do you need to know about other learners b4 you'd trust their experiences/reactions? #CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan Agreed. Also not a bad idea to plant a few responses to show what is expected and move things along #CMEchat
aCMEstory T4: Data from your own peer networks can motivate change and facilitate offline discussion. #CMEchat #worksinreverse
BrianSMcGowan @beth333SP - very interesting...do tell more! #CMEchat
elearningCME For MDs: important @BrianSMcGowan: T4: who much do you need to know about other learners b4 you'd trust their experiences/reaction? #CMEchat
CMEChat Just a reminder...no #CMEchat next week as we should all be celebrating the Holiday w/ friends & loved one. #hotdogs #coleslaw
beth333SP Not that int, I just need to seek my own backup info. Respect opinions but create my own @BrianSMcGowan very interesting tell more! #CMEchat
CMEChat Thanks for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion & not that of employers
aCMEstory @briansmcgowan It's like anything else. You need to get your data from a variety of sources and filter, filter, filter.... #CMEchat
CMEChat As we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!
CMEChat The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect & take action on things you’ve learned!
CMEChat The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at t.co/iQhIRipKmr
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 12pt;">elearningCME #TOTD RT @aCMEstory: @briansmcgowan It's like anything else. You need to get your data from a variety of sources and filter, filter #CMEchat
aCMEstory @thecmeguy Looks like #CMEchat finally got our mascot.
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models for “Self-direction” learning in #meded #cmechat
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shortly after the session has ended.
BrianSMcGowan Good
Monday to the #CMEchat-ters everywhere! Hope all is well. Brian here moderating this week...should be a
great theme!
BrianSMcGowan We
will give some time for folks to arrive...in the meantime, I hope everyone had
a wonderful Mother's Day with their loved ones. #CMEchat
mathena123 Afternoon
#cmechat from London
BrianSMcGowan @mathena123
...and Good afternoon to you too. late
arriving crowd in general this week...let see who else is joining us. #CMEchat
drerikbrady Erik
here, from Raleigh, beautiful day outside, looking forward to the topic #CMEchat #letsdothisyall
BrianSMcGowan @drerikbrady
- Morning Eric! #cmeCHAT
drerikbrady @BrianSMcGowan
Good morning to you, Bryan #spellingerrors #CMEchat
CMEChat Small
group today...lets see how it goes and who joins us over time! #CMEchat
CMEChat “Self-direction”
is considered a fundamental adult learning principle, today we will explore
models for “Self-direction” learning. #CMEchat
mbaffuto Mike
B in NJ. Office phones are down, perfect time for #CMEchat.
dpguinee Daniel
from central NJ here #cmechat
rmtyner michelle
from Indiana - checking in late #cmechat
CMEChat In
each case study we're looking for suggestions allowing learners to more
actively guide their learning w/i some defined format #CMEchat
brandeeplott Brandee
Plott here from Vail. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan Howdy
to Daniel, Michelle, Brandee and Mike #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
To ensure that we are clear: What does self-directed learning mean to you? In
general, what does it look like? #CMEchat
CMEChat T1:
To ensure that we are clear: What does self-directed learning mean to you? In
general, what does it look like? #CMEchat
HaleyMarie3 Good
morning! Haley here from Ohio #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
I think that 'self-directed' learning is largely an internal process -
connecting new lessons to existing questions/experiences #CMEchat
brandeeplott To me
it is motivated by the learner because of a problem in practice. May not be
formal learning. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t1:
... it is the ability to make connections to past experiences...sometimes it is
easy, sometime learners need help. #CMEchat
drerikbrady T1:
Self-directed learning: learners realizes that they need info to allow them to
perform, goes seeking info, finds it, performs #CMEchat
dpguinee S/D
learning means I select the content and guide the pace at which I participate
#cmechat
mathena123 Self
directed learning involves self identification of needs and location of
education to for fill those needs. #cmechat
CMEChat @brandeeplott
- fair point, but for the exercise today we will try to make formal learning a
better 'self-directed' experience, ok? #CMEchat
brandeeplott I
consider self-directed learning the most personalized approach to learning.
#cmechat
HaleyMarie3 Self-directed
learning: research, note-taking, applying new information to work/practice #cmechat
brandeeplott @cmechat
Got it. #cmechat
giasison RT
@BrianSMcGowan: Good Monday to the #CMEchat-ters everywhere! Hope all is
well. Brian here moderating this
week...should be a great theme!
BrianSMcGowan @dpguinee
- but you speak about content as if it is one thing...aren't their many ideas
in a given program? #CMEchat
brandeeplott Also
following up after a formal learning experience. #cmechat
RonanTKavanagh @BrianSMcGowan
The filling of some pot holes in my knowledge base (and everyone has DIFFERENT
potholes) #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan RT
@brandeeplott: I consider self-directed learning the most personalized approach
to learning. #cmechat // agreed. #intrinsicmotivation
mbaffuto T1:
@drerikbrady took my answer :) SD is
often a subconscious process. #CMEchat.
giasison Hi
all first time to join loving the topic of self learning. Gia here
physician/breast CA patient frm Manila signing in! #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t1:
seems that the challeng we have in CME is that we tend to 'broadcast' content
to large groups...impossible to be too specific #CMEchat
brandeeplott Important
to achieve balance between the learning you want to do and need to do. #cmechat
giasison T1
Self learning requires determination as driver and passion as its fuel. Agree
that internal motivation is a factor. #CMEchat
CMEChat T2:
What are your best practices in supporting ‘self-directed learning’ w/i
live, SMALL group learning (<50) #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan #TOTD
RT @brandeeplott: Important to achieve balance between the learning you want to
do and need to do. #cmechat
giasison Love
this! RT @HaleyMarie3: Self-directed learning: research, note-taking, applying
new information to work/practice
#cmechat
mathena123 @BrianSMcGowan
large groups can still for fill self directed education if it for fills the
self directed need. #cmechat
giasison RT
@CMEChat: T2: What are your best practices in supporting ‘self-directed
learning’ w/i live, SMALL group learning (<50) #CMEchat
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
Are learning tracks a partial solution to this? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan I
think Brandee nailed the challenge...self-direction doesn't mean 'right
direction' as educators we need to shape the experiences. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan RT
@brandeeplott: @briansmcgowan Are learning tracks a partial solution to this?
#cmechat // I think so...we will focus on large grps nxt!
giasison T2
Social media big help from my end of the globe-tweet chats (global forums)
& links shared big help in self learning #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @mathena123
- i agree...Question is how to best design education for the group, that still
allows for S/D? #CMEchat
bethnearymd #cmechat
Hi. I am a pediatrician, teaching med students. I also teach undergrads in
public health class. Madison, WI
brandeeplott Maybe
doing a little pre-work for a small group setting sets them up beforehand and
leanring can be tailored based on that? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
seems the challenge is easiest to solve in small groups...either through
individual engagement...and feedback. #CMEchat
giasison @bethnearymd
Waving hi Beth! #cmechat
HaleyMarie3 T2:
Allowing learners to come up with their own questions and get answers from the
faculty/experts #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t2
@brandeeplott - I was thinking the same thing...whether it is pre-work, flipped
classroom, or feedback loops. #cmeCHAT
brandeeplott @giasison
Also tweet chats very cost effective! #cmechat
HaleyMarie3 T2:
Pre-surveying learners and using results to design edu that best fits their
needs #cmechat
giasison @brandeeplott
Agree Brandee #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan RT
@giasison: @bethnearymd Waving hi Beth! #cmechat //THANKS to you both for
joiing us!
CMEChat RT
@giasison: @bethnearymd Waving hi Beth! #cmechat //THANKS to you both for
joiing us!
drerikbrady T2:
in some sessions, we offer an iPad for use to allow learners to look up a quick
?, but there are challenges #CMEchat #checkinggmail
CMEChat T3:
What are your best practices in supporting ‘self-directed learning’ w/i
live, LARGE group learning (>50) #CMEchat
giasison @BrianSMcGowan
@brandeeplott Feedback loops very good model for best practice Brian #cmechat
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
Real challenge is getting them to do work beforehand but maybe if credit is
offered... #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @HaleyMarie3
- you've hit on another critical take away. We need to gather more data on
learners 'in the room' vs general needs! #CMEchat
mathena123 When I
reflect on my needs I tend to focus on smaller grp teaching and large grp
didactic to help focus my needs #CMEchat
giasison @brandeeplott
Got it right specially nowadays #cmechat
mbaffuto t2:
@BrianSMcGowan @brandeeplott but is 'assigned' pre-work self directed? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @brandeeplott
- you see what you did there? you raised a 'motivation' question...difference
b/w theory and practice! #CMEchat
giasison @BrianSMcGowan
@bethnearymd Honored to join Brian thanks for the warm welcome :-) #cmechat
bethnearymd T2
#cmechat having students view videos/on line articles before class makes the
small group discussions richer
brandeeplott Maybe
having them take pre-course survey to determine which track. LMS's could help
with this even for live education. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @mbaffuto-
surely it can be...structure is every bit as critical with 'self-directed'
learning as not. #unknownunknowns #CMEchat
brandeeplott @mbaffuto
Maybe let them choose between options for pre-work? #cmechat #slightlySD
BrianSMcGowan t3:
in larger groups...even in lectures....we must find ways to nudge learners to
find their own relavance. Telling stories helps! #CMEchat
dpguinee We
have registrants select sample cases that appeal most...then in the live event,
majority of pre-reg voters direct the content...#cmechat
mathena123 @BrianSMcGowan
@mbaffuto almost more important to have structure #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T2:
ok - yet another theme has arisen —> 'Options' <— several have
suggested that providing options leverages Self-direction. #CMEchat
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
Having them bring their own caseto discuss
helps. Large group can be broken into smaller groups. #cmechat
dpguinee But
couldn't one argue that by attending the lecture, the learner is
self-directing? #cmechat
brandeeplott @mathena123
Key is to make it not feel structured. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @dpguinee
so a crowd sourcing model? let's see = 1) more data on learners 2) relevance 3)
pre-work 4) options. win-win-win-win #CMEchat
brandeeplott @dpguinee
Good point! Hi Daniel! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan RT
@dpguinee: But couldn't one argue that by attending the lecture, the learner is
self-directing? #cmechat #coy
dpguinee As
@theCMEguy pointed out last week, sometimes I want to learn by listening
#cmechat
drerikbrady T3:
We need "choose your own adventure" CME. #CMEchat
CMEChat Now
the cases may get a bit more challenging...are we ready? #CMEchat
dpguinee RT
@briansmcgowan: That's the idea! @dpguinee so a crowd sourcing model?
win-win-win-win #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan RT
@drerikbrady: T3: We need "choose your own adventure" CME. #CMEchat
?? have you been peaking at my notes?
giasison @BrianSMcGowan
@dpguinee Nice summary of points relevant to best practices #cmechat
brandeeplott RT
@dpguinee: As @theCMEguy pointed out last week, sometimes I want to learn by
listening #cmechat
bethnearymd #cmechat
Personally, I have come to hate the large lecture hall—would prefer to watch
lectures on line-then I can speed up the pace.
giasison RT
@dpguinee: As @theCMEguy pointed out last week, sometimes I want to learn by
listening #cmechat
CMEChat T4:
What r your best practices in supporting ‘self-directed learning’ w/i
traditional ENDURING online education (webcast/slidecast) #CMEchat
brandeeplott We
have to remember that different people respond to different types of
stimulation, auditory, visual, etc, #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan .@bethnearymd
- so self-paced learning is clearly a valuable form of self-direction, but
where do you go w/ new questions? #CMEchat
drerikbrady T4:
Qualifying ?: Does PoC CME count as traditional? #CMEchat
brandeeplott T4:
Embed questions throughout and have next bit correspond to their answers?
#cmechat
CMEChat Good
question, but lets say no. RT @drerikbrady: T4: Qualifying ?: Does PoC CME
count as traditional? #CMEchat
giasison @CMEChat
T4 Slideshare, shared transcript of chats very effective from my end as best
practice #cmechat
brandeeplott @drerikbrady
Isn't POC the ultimate self-directed learning but is still structured? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @brandeeplott
- the idea of adaptive learning is aligned with EriK's CYOA suggestion....what
are the practical challenges? #CMEchat
giasison RT
@brandeeplott: We have to remember that different people respond to different
types of stimulation, auditory, visual, etc, #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan RT
@brandeeplott: @drerikbrady Isn't POC the ultimate self-directed learning but
is still structured? #cmechat ? #SheIsHotToday! #Fire
drerikbrady @brandeeplott
Yes, in my mind, it is #CMEchat T4
giasison @brandeeplott
Great point Brandee! Modalities of learning is an impt factor to take into
consideration #cmechat
cmaer Experiencing
the broad spectrum of #ottawa life that represented by the riders on the number
12 bus into Vanier (while lurking on #cmechat)
BrianSMcGowan T4:
IMO, We MUST make the choice to reach out to learners...break the 4th
wall...force them to play the protagonist. #CMEchat
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
Not really hard of you get a few test participants involved in the development
phase. #cmechat #costprohibitive?
giasison @cmaer
Hello Pat!!! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @cmaer
- glad to be the diversion...if you were driving the Bus than that would be
truly self-directed! #CMEchat #Ba-da-dum
drerikbrady T4:
Link to other content within an activity to allow learners to jump to other
places for clarification, that works #CMEchat
mathena123 Got to
say that I love videos for endoscopy difficult to have a dynamic skill taught
without visual and POC teaching #CMEchat
brandeeplott @drerikbrady
Like it! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @brandeeplott
- in theory you would be creating 50-75% redundant or parallel content...#cost
#Time...any alternatves? #CMEchat
bethnearymd @BrianSMcGowan
do you mean clinical cases that I am perplexed about? I have used a physician
only website to get input #cmechat
aCMEstory Sorry
to miss most, if not all of today's #CMEchat. :-(
BrianSMcGowan @drerikbrady
- you're echoing everything I have been working on for the past few
years...check out the @Archemedx resource center! #CMEchat
brandeeplott Have
to go. Thanks for good learning! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @bethnearymd
- not just cases...but as we learn we often hear things that help us shape new
questions about content relavance? #CMEchat
cmaer @BrianSMcGowan
Mobile learning #cmechat
drerikbrady @briansmcgowan
Then we're aligned, because this is exactly what we're doing within activities
T4 #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @mathena123
- some great research on 'flipping' endoscopy lessons using series of short
videos that learners can self-pace. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan RT
@cmaer: @BrianSMcGowan Mobile learning #cmechat // for the Bus-y learner!
aCMEstory T1-4:
Consider incorporating elements of the Self Directed Learning Readiness Scale
into educational design. #CMEchat t.co/EEuCuc7MfD
BrianSMcGowan #TOTD
MT @aCMEstory: T1-4: Consider the Self Directed Learning Readiness Scale in ed
design. #CMEchat t.co/1oacPHQEKq
CMEChat Thanks
for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion
& not that of employers
CMEChat As
we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this
week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!
CMEChat The
real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect & take
action on things you’ve learned!
CMEChat The
complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at
t.co/EylNu0ipQF
cmaer RT @CMEChat:
The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect &
take action on things you’ve learned!
giasison @bethnearymd
Hi Beth! Nice to see you at #cmechat :-)
giasison RT
@cmaer: RT @CMEChat: The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action,
Please reflect & take action on things you’ve learned!
mathena123 Great
to chat today. Helped me with reflecting on what I'm going to do at the next
Conf I attend! #CMEchat
giasison @cmaer
@CMEChat Well said Pat! Great chat on #cmechat tonight New learnings indeed!
Great job Brian! @BrianSMcGowan
There has been much debate
about whether lecture works, w/o taking a definitive position, today we will
look to ‘make it better’ #CMEchat
We can broadly define
lecture as a largely unidirectional presentation of information, with limited
interaction
T1: What are
your best examples of improving the “lecture” experiences for Live, small group
learning (<50) #CMEchat
T2: What are
your best examples of improving the “lecture” experiences for Live, large group
learning (>50) #CMEchat
T3: What are
your best examples of improving the “lecture” experiences for traditional ONLINE
LIVE education (webinar) #CMEchat
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rmtyner Michelle
from Indiana - lurking today - started my new job and am on conference calls
but have definite opinions about todays topic #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan Welcome
to the 73 edition of #CMEchat...a weekly opportunity to share, to learn, and to
grow as CME professionals
dpguinee Daniel
here, central NJ, med ed company; excited to be on time for #CMEchat this week.
BrianSMcGowan @dpguinee
- glad to have you join! excited to hear what you have to add today! #CMEchat
aCMEstory Good
morning and happy Monday. Ready to #CMEchat
triciawil Tricia in
rainy Cville joining in for #CMEchat
beth333SP Beth
Brillinger, Dir of Accred from CME Outfitters, good morning! #CMEchat
drerikbrady Erik
from Raleigh, finally able to join again, welcoming @rmtyner to CCO! #CMEchat
CMEChat Many
folks still debate whether lecture works, w/o taking a definitive position,
today we will look to ‘make it better’... #CMEchat (1/2)
mbaffuto Mike
signing on from NJ. Nice topic! Working at a MEC = a lot of lectures.
#understatement #CMEchat
HaleyMarie3 Haley
here from Ohio. Hello! #cmechat
CMEChat For
today, we can broadly define 'lecture' as a largely unidirectional presentation
of information, w/ limited interaction. agreed? #CMEchat
theCMEguy Derek
in Philly. Here until the wife calls me away to move heavy objects #CMEchat
dpguinee #CMEChat
Sounds fair enough
BrianSMcGowan great
crowd on the chat! glad to see so many familiar faces! #CMEchat
aCMEstory A
comparison of tele-education versus conventional lectures in wound care
knowledge and skill acquisition. t.co/7mFnt3xffX #cmechat
CMEChat as
with last week, we will explore 4 case studies w/ hopes of providing some very
practical ways to make 'lecture' better! #CMEchat
drerikbrady Definition
accepted: unidirectional presentation of information w/ limited interaction
#CMEchat #T1 #wheresthequestion
rmtyner @aCMEstory
I think that I would like to know whos test scores were higher... i think
learners may rate live better the distance #CMEchat
CMEChat In
each case study please focus on the ALL CAPS words as they intentionally narrow
the conversation! #CMEchat
aCMEstory RT
@drerikbrady: Definition accepted: unidirectional presentation of information
w/ limited interaction #CMEchat #T1 #wheresthequestion
CMEChat T1:
What are your best examples of improving the “lecture†experiences for live, SMALL GROUP learning (<50)
#CMEchat
patrickdherron Patrick
- Albert Einstein College of Medicine in Bronx, NY - great topic choice for
today! #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan ...we
may come up with a laundry list of suggestions to get better with lecture!
#CMEchat
dpguinee Small
group - under 25? 50? #CMEChat
rmtyner T1
one of the best <50 sessions I have done included hands on joint
examination where faculty were there to guide the exam #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @rmtyner
does this fit into a 'lecture' model? #CMEchat...
rmtyner @BrianSMcGowan
it was a part of the lecture session - #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan "t1:
there will be themes that evolve in this conversation, surely emotion is one.
No? Can the lecturer engage emotionally?
#CMEChat"
drerikbrady #T1
we have a #gaming model, divide up into small groups, assign groups to faculty,
gets competitive, keeps learners engaged #CMEchat
aCMEstory T1:
In small group live lectures it has been helpful to query expectations of group
at start to "customize" content focus. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @rmtyner
fair enough...but I am trying to imagine the faculty bolted behind the podium.
#CMEchat
dpguinee T1
- group of 40, start w 2 15-min presentations (w/Q&A), 5 min break,
then hands-on sim training. Worked better than proposed! #CMEChat
patrickdherron T1:
Being a skilled facilitator (adaptive; improvisational) more important than
being content expert w/ SMALL GROUP learning (<50) #CMEchat
theCMEguy T1:
Faculty member w/ lapel mic, walking among participants, having face-to-face
interaction during Q&A #CMEChat
drerikbrady @briansmcgowan
#T1, in the #gaming sessions, faculty definitely get emotionally involved, they
want their team to WIN!! #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @patrickdherron
- this is so true...small groups provide such a great oppotunity to shepard
learners...facilitate...engage. #CMEchat #skillz
mbaffuto T1
- incorporate multimedia into the 'unidirectional' experience - variety in
engagement: audio, video, pictures, charts #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t1:
two words: #STORY #TELLING //#CMEchat
drerikbrady #T1,
we also do a master class model, faculty at each table in rounds for indepth
discussion #CMEchat #bewareherdingcats
aCMEstory T1:
In small groups it is important that the faculty represents the audience in
terms of specialty/discipline. #CMEchat
theCMEguy T1:
Huge amount depends on presenter. Skilled,engaging speaker = better learning
experience. #CMEChat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
another theme that might well carry over into every scenario is breaking content
into smaller digestible chunks. #CMEchat
dpguinee Also,
the best story(teller) wins RT @briansmcgowan: t1: two words: #STORY #TELLING
//#CMEchat
aCMEstory T1:
Set expectations for faculty, learners for the appropriate level of
interaction, engagement based on subject matter. #cmechat
drerikbrady MT
@acmestory: T1: In small groups, important that faculty represent the audience
in terms of specialty/discipline. #CMEchat totally agree
dpguinee T1
- sample 'cases' at time of invite; ask for 'top choice'; 3 most-voted choices
become the cases of focus at the live lecture #CMEChat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
I suggest to faculty that they never go more than 5-10 minutes w/o 'reaching
out' to the learners & 'breaking the 4th wall' #CMEchat
Bonnycastle Deirdre
in Saskatchewan Canada #CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
This only works if the faculty know how to do it. Some not good at
"reaching out" and engaging. #CMEChat
aCMEstory @briansmcgowan
Absolutely. Otherwise weighty subject matter, lots of data can equal learner
fatigue and disconnect. #CMEchat
amcunningham It's a
Bank Holiday so I could join in with #cmechat for once:)
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy
- is it fair to say that if faculty 'aren't good at reaching out' then they
shouldn't be on the faculty? #CMEchat
theCMEguy T1:
Some of the onus is on provider to pick the right faculty. #CMEChat
dpguinee TOTD RT @patrickdherron: Being a skilled
facilitator (adaptive; improvisational) more important than being content
expert w/ SMALL #cmechat
HaleyMarie3 RT
@mbaffuto: T1 incorporate multimedia into the unidirectional experience -
variety in engagement: audio, video, pictures, charts #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @amcunningham
- glad to have you join! #CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
Depends on goal of your activity, but...yes. #CMEChat
patrickdherron T1:
Being observed and getting feedback on your teaching skills by well respected
colleagues known for SMALL GROUP learning (<50) #CMEchat
dpguinee Amen,
brother! MT @briansmcgowan: @theCMEguy - if faculty 'aren't good at reaching
out' then they shouldn't be on the faculty? #CMEchat
Bonnycastle I saw
a great case that unfolded as people asked the right questions. Ask the right
question and more information was revealed. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
what if we built our agendas in 5-10 minutes story arcs...giving faculty the
support they need to 'get better' at lecture. #CMEchat
triciawil T1 Panel of
speakers with cases at tables. Speakers
circulated. Learners then "presented" back the group & panel
responded. #cmechat
dpguinee Live? Or online?
RT @bonnycastle: I saw a great case that unfolded as people asked the
right questions. #CMEchat
drerikbrady @briansmcgowan
I'd say yes. A subject matter expert and a skilled facilitator/educator are
often not tied up in a single person #CMEchat
dpguinee Reducing
"lecture" time is key. RT
@briansmcgowan: T1: what if we built our agendas in 5-10 minutes story arcs...
#CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
@Bonnycastle - this cements the idea about great faculty being 1 part expert: 2
parts facilitator #CMEchat
aCMEstory @briansmcgowan
@theCMEguy Create opportunities to incl presentation skill building, audience
engagement as part of faculty prep. #CMEchat
spelletier No
idea what the topic is, but great convo to drop in on! #cmechat
theCMEguy +1 RT
@dpguinee: Reducing "lecture" time is key. RT @briansmcgowan: T1: what if we built our
agendas in 5-10 minutes story arcs... #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
I love that one suggest for making lecture better is to 'reduce lecture time'
#CMEchat surely it can be better w/o less of it, no?
HaleyMarie3 T1:
For a successful lecture, I think a good presenter and well articulated
slides/presentation go hand in hand #cmechat
CMEChat @spelletier
- much debate about whether lecture works, w/o taking a definitive position,
today we will look to ‘make it better’ #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy
@dpguinee - shouldn't that be -1? #CMEchat
theCMEguy T1:
Very rarely have I been at a lecture and left thinking, "Boy, I wish they
had had more time to lecture..." #CMEChat
CMEChat T2:
What are your best examples of improving the “lecture†experiences for Live, LARGE GROUP learning (>50)
#CMEchat
mbaffuto T1:
we build "discussion slides" with open ended ?s at end of each
section for the less interactive faculty
#cmechat
spelletier t2
multimedia really helps! And an engaging presenter who seems to care deeply
about the topic #cmechat
CMEChat Surely
many of the ideas b/w T1 and T2 overlap...but try to focus on suggestions for
large groups in particular! #CMEchat
aCMEstory 3-year
Study of Lecture Multimedia Use in Med Curriculum: Associations w/ Performances
in Basic Sciences t.co/eo5ZF36fs4 #CMEchat
triciawil T2: Refer to
themes at ACEHP - include the human element & remind learners why they
do what they do. Video clips, stories,
etc. #cmechat
drerikbrady #TOTD
@thecmeguy: T1: Very rarely have I been at a lecture and left thinking,
"Boy, I wish they had had more time to lecture..." #CMEChat
BrianSMcGowan .@mbaffuto
- I think this is a great support tool...even if faculty can't think of ways to
engage, surely they can read a slide! #CMEchat
spelletier t2
when presenters "chunk" the info into 5-10 minute bits and use breaks
between for interaction #cmechat
aCMEstory T2:
Know (and learn) your audience! Adapt lecture accordingly based on level of
engagement, questions, demographics. #CMEchat #themoreuknow
drerikbrady T2 -
Honestly, i think the best strategy with larger groups is to break them up into
small groups #CMEchat
spelletier t2
engaging emotions—heart not just head (again, multimedia helps) #cmechat
Bonnycastle I
teach faculty to organize lectures in 10-15 minute chunks around 1 topic then
engagement activity. Works Well! #CMEchat
dpguinee Aha
moment! RT @drerikbrady: T2 - Honestly,
i think the best strategy with larger groups is to break them up into small
groups #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @spelletier
- great minds think alike! #CMEchat (and are easily distracted by monotonous
droning on and on and on. #CMEchat
CMEChat @drerikbrady
- please draw inside the lines #CMEchat ;-)
HaleyMarie3 RT
@drerikbrady: T2 - Honestly, i think the best strategy with larger groups is to
break them up into small groups #cmechat
Bonnycastle My
list of engagement activities in medical ed t.co/7M51vxKG8n #CMEchat
#meded
spelletier #TOTD
RT @drerikbrady: T2 - Honestly, i think the best strategy with larger groups is
to break them up into small groups #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan And
I love that one suggestion for improving large groups sessions is to make them
small group sessions. #CMEchat #rebels
theCMEguy @triciawil
Nice! #CMEChat
aCMEstory T2:
After every topic/theme summarize key takeaway points & reinforce
utility in clinical practice with a reference to support it. #CMEchat
theCMEguy Cheater
RT @drerikbrady: T2 - Honestly, i think the best strategy with larger groups is
to break them up into small groups #CMEchat
mbaffuto T2:
for larger groups, multiple lecturers to give audience a few different
perspectives. #CMEchat
spelletier @BrianSMcGowan
t2 only problem is you can't always break them into small groups #cmechat
dpguinee We
keep lecture time to 20 mins - if you can't say it in 20 mins, it needs to be
broken apart. #CMEChat
patrickdherron T2:
Audience Response systems can be a great asset, but use sparingly (time <10min) and know the tech well before
trying it out. #CMEchat
dpguinee TED
is my role model! #CMEChat
drerikbrady @thecmeguy
@briansmcgowan Am I taking craZy pills? #CMErebels #CMEchat
#ialwayscoloredoutsidethelines
theCMEguy But I
have 149 slides!!! RT @dpguinee: We keep lecture time to 20 mins - if you can't
say it in 20 mins, it needs to be broken apar #CMEChat
BrianSMcGowan T2:
faculty must lay out a 'treaure map experience' for learners...critical to
frame a problem and work towards the solution #CMEchat
AUS_Admissions RT
@briansmcgowan: Wanted: role models—medical students' perceptions of
professionalism. t.co/wHUT56ptSw #meded #CMEchat...
drerikbrady @thecmeguy
Ugh... then you're not focused on A learning objective... #CMEchat
mbaffuto if
only every faculty could TED! RT @dpguinee TED is my role model! #CMEChat
aCMEstory T2:
Get from behind the podium and don't lecture to slides—just use to reinforce
key points! #CMEchat
spelletier @BrianSMcGowan
t2 I have never experienced that treasure map idea. Sounds very cool #cmechat
Bonnycastle @patrickdherron
We have had great results with audience response systems done well they can
actively involve med students/ faculty #CMEchat
theCMEguy @aCMEstory
How about slides with no bullet points? #CMEChat
theCMEguy Nope.
I have 4 objectives for my talk #sarcasm RT @drerikbrady: @thecmeguy Ugh...
then you're not focused on A learning objective.. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan I
wouldn't invest too much the TED model - emotions are great, but facts are
critical. Little substance in over-produced talks! #CMEchat
Bonnycastle PS
the engagement techniques at t.co/7M51vxKG8n are primarily for large
classrooms #CMEchat
HaleyMarie3 RT
@BrianSMcGowan: T2: faculty must lay out a treasure map experience for
learners...frame a problem and work towards the solution #cmechat
aCMEstory @thecmeguy
Could work. Also, a blank or black slide to draw folks attn from screen back to
faculty can periodically re-engage. #CMEchat
spelletier t2
can we pare it down so each lecture just has one main learning objective?
Always try to cover too much too quickly—exhausting! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan Great
conversation so far...awesome job! Let's try to keep it going while we move on
to case #3! #CMEchat
CMEChat T3:
What are your best examples of improving the “lecture†experiences for traditional ONLINE LIVE education (webinar)
#CMEchat
dpguinee T2
- of course, our attendees are a factor, too - some just want to sit idly at a
lecture. #cmechat
ElinSilveous #CMEChat
folks might also be interested in the #PCORI board webcast going on today.
Details at t.co/lsxvLqq68z #CER #Outcomes
Bonnycastle T3
Have participants use a whiteboard to answer questions #CMEchat
spelletier t3
webinar presenter used chat, twitter to converse, answer questions in real
time. It was awesome. Not many can juggle tho #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t3:
so much goes into success w/ online lectures: production is key (is distance
learner an afterthought)? #CMEchat
drerikbrady @spelletier
This has always been my goal, 1 talk=20 mins=1 objective(=1 outcomes question)
#CMEchat #justaruleofthumb
HaleyMarie3 T3:
Integrating audio/video with slides in webinar format...also have Q&A
widget and #SoMe widget for interaction
#cmechat
theCMEguy THIS
is a good point. RT @dpguinee: T2 - of course, our attendees are a factor, too
- some just want to sit idly at a lecture.
#cmechat
spelletier But
they don't want to b bored either RT @dpguinee: T2 ...some just want to sit
idly at a lecture. #cmechat
triciawil T3: Pre-webinar survey of attendees to better
tailor the lecture. #cmechat
drerikbrady @dpguinee
i'll challenge that. i don't think that
person is really invested in learning #CMEchat
Bonnycastle T3
Encourage participants to use chat functions to answer questions during online
lecture #CMEchat
triciawil T3: Also, pure "ask the experts" format
on a specific topic. #cmechat
theCMEguy Disagree
100% RT @drerikbrady: @dpguinee i'll challenge that. i don't think that person is really invested
in learning #CMEchat
mbaffuto T3:
ask pointed question about user practice. even if they can't respond, make them
reflect on what they currently do #CMEchat
Bonnycastle Use a
wiki in asynchronous online classes to get students to share resources, ideas
#CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T3:Just
like the room/setting are key elements in live mtgs [tho no one discussed it
;-) ], the environment is key online! #CMEchat
spelletier Synchronous
Twitter chat/chat function for live online makes it much more engaging #cmechat
drerikbrady @thecmeguy
I'd like to understand your POV better, i think the learner must have an active
role in the process #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan when
someone disagrees 100%....then we seem to have struck a nerve. @theCMEguy can we assume you are making an
introvert comment? #CMEchat
aCMEstory T3:
Online attn spans even shorter. Keep lecture time to data points, incorp
questions, reinforce points w/ text, vid, animations. #CMEchat
dpguinee Room
temp? Disappointing meal? MT
@briansmcgowan: T3: the environment is key online! #CMEchat
drerikbrady T3 -
mostly listening, we don't do very many webinars #CMEchat
spelletier Think
about what makes #CMEchat so engaging—do more of that! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T3:
CME professionals too rarely step back to consider all the 'environmental'
elements that may attract or distract ONLINE. #CMEchat
aCMEstory T3:
Post-learning, follow up with summary of
online engagement, test responses and recommendations for add'l #meded.
#CMEchat
drerikbrady @briansmcgowan
@thecmeguy I think I'm about to become fodder for a blog post #CMEchat
triciawil T3; We did 2-3 webinars/month for 3 1/2 years.
Most well attended w engaged learners were q & a formats. #cmechat
dpguinee T3
We use a 'classroom' model effectively for pharmacists — option to 'raise
hand', get called on, etc. #cmechat
theCMEguy @drerikbrady
I think someone can learn by sitting back and listening. I do it all the time.
#CMEChat
drerikbrady @briansmcgowan
It's actually the environmental elements that have us trending away from
offering webinars #CMEchat T3
BrianSMcGowan t3:
the physicality of the faculty member is also vital, are they awkward on
camera...does there voice 'work' online? #CMEchat #meded #truth
theCMEguy That
definitely plays a part in it, sure. MT @BrianSMcGowan: can we assume you are
making an introvert comment? #CMEchat
Bonnycastle I
attend many 500 person webinars where I just listen. If well presented with
stories and images, they keep attention. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @drerikbrady
but online education is the fastest growing (real) segment of the CME delivery
model...HCPs demanding more. #CMEchat
spelletier Format
we use most 4 webinars is 3 15-minute segments with Q&A either between
or at end—seems to work OK #cmechat
drerikbrady @thecmeguy
In what settings? Large groups? Online?
Or 1-on-1? #CMEchat
spelletier Voice
tone and theatricality are even more important online, IMHO. Droners bad IRL,
even worse online #cmechat
aCMEstory @briansmcgowan
Excellent point. Subject Matter Expert does not necessarily equal effective
educator. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan #TOTD
T1-3: can we agree that any lecture that for which there was no 'dress
rehearsal' is at best a crap shoot? #practice #CMEchat #meded
theCMEguy All
(well, not 1-on-1. That's just awkward...) RT @drerikbrady: @thecmeguy In what
settings? Large groups? Online? Or
1-on-1? #CMEchat
patrickdherron RT
@aCMEstory: @briansmcgowan Excellent point. Subject Matter Expert does not
necessarily equal effective educator. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @drerikbrady
- there are too few of the latter in CME to make a comment. so on-demand for
sure (for now). #CMEchat
Bonnycastle RT
@aCMEstory: @briansmcgowan Excellent point. Subject Matter Expert does not
necessarily equal effective educator. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @patrickdherron
- you see what your tweet looks like in the tweetstream...very offensive ;-)
#CMEchat
CMEChat Thanks
for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion
& not that of employers
drerikbrady @briansmcgowan
Ah, well strike my earlier comment about us not doing many of these, i made an
incorrect assumption #CMEchat
CMEChat As
we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's
#CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!
CMEChat The
real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect & take
action on things you’ve learned!
aCMEstory T3:
Critical to recognize and adapt for different levels of learner
"investment" when developing #elearning. #CMEchat
CMEChat The
complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at
t.co/EylNu0ipQF
spelletier sort
of OT: Can you train an SME to be an educator? Not sure everyone has it in them
#cmechat
BrianSMcGowan We
can help them improve...RT @spelletier: sort of OT: Can you train an SME to be
an educator? Not sure everyone has it in them #cmechat
drerikbrady @spelletier
I go back and forth on this. I'm a
strong "maybe." #CMEchat
spelletier Glad
I could stop by, even if just for part of it today. Great discussion! #cmechat
RandleLondon RT
@spelletier: Voice tone and theatricality are even more important online, IMHO.
Droners bad IRL, even worse online #cmechat
mbaffuto #TOTD
RT @BrianSMcGowan T1: I suggest to faculty that they never go more than 5-10
minutes w/o 'reaching out' & 'breaking 4th wall' #CMEchat
spelletier #TOTD
RT @BrianSMcGowan: t1: two words: #STORY #TELLING //#CMEchat #cmechat
aCMEstory TOTD @patrickdherron T2: Audience Response can be a great asset, but use sparingly (<10min) & know tech well before trying it out. #CMEchat
In each shared scenario, we
are looking to optimize realism & learning by engaging the senses (sight,
sound…) #CMEchat
The scenarios are
intentionally challenging, but realistic for much of how CME is delivered…
#CMEchat
T1 Case Scenario
1: Live ‘lecture’ in a small group mtg (n<50). How can we add realism &
engage the senses? #CMEchat
T2 Scenario 2:
Live ‘lecture’ in a large group mtg (n<200). How can we add realism &
engage the senses? #CMEchat
T3 Scenario 3: Online learning module (non-live) w/ or w/o simulated patient video. How can we add realism & engage the senses #CMEchat
T4: Did you
pick up any useful tips or ideas today? If so, what changes are you prepared to
make? #CMEchat #meded
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aCMEstory RT
@CMEChat: Join us in 60 mins for #CMEchat 72 as we discuss 'Adding elements of
realism to case studies & simulations' #meded
CMEChat "If
you're learning something, involve as many senses as possible to help retain
the experience." - great lesson for today's #CMEchat
CMEChat Welcome
to #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion & not that
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What brings you here today? #CMEchat
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BrianSMcGowan Topics
will guide the discussion, but real learning & teaching lies in your
tweets - please engage. #CMEchat
CMEChat The
complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived at t.co/EylNu0ipQF
shortly after the session has ended.
BrianSMcGowan Good
morning #CMEchat-ters...great topic this week...looking forward to your
engagement to overcome the dreary rain of Philly!
EuropeanCME RT
@jecme: Please input into our quick survey on pros and cons of styles of
accreditation at t.co/ij3F3hQlW5 #6ECF #cmechat #meded
brandeeplott Brandee
Plott here on this gorgeous spring day in Vail. :) #cmechat
CMEChat Picking
up on the theme from #71, today we look at adding elements of realism to case
studies and simulations #CMEchat
rmtyner Michelle
from Indiana - looking forward to the #MonthofMay in Indianapolis!! #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Alex
Djuricich, from Indy, in and out today for the chat. I am interested in using technology to guide
(not replace) education #cmechat
CMEChat In
each shared scenario, we are looking to optimize realism & learning by
engaging the senses (sight, sound…taste?) #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan The
scenarios are intentionally challenging, but realistic for much of how #meded
and CME is delivered… #CMEchat
theCMEguy Derek
here in Chestnut Hill. Experiencing withdrawal from the gorgeous weekend.
#cmechat
aCMEstory Good
morning. Greselda checking in from equally dreary DC metro area. Ready to learn
and #CMEchat!
BrianSMcGowan Irish
Proverb: May the rain always arrive on Monday! (made it up) #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan Hello
to Michelle, Derek, Brandee, Greselda...and all of those lurking in the ether!
#CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor I
am also following some fascinating tweets from the #APDIM13 meeting in
Orlando. gr8 tweeting going on there!
#cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor
- that is the res prgm directors mtg, yes? #CMEchat
beth333SP Beth
Brillinger checking in and ready to learn. #CMEchat
mbaffuto Mike
in rainy NJ checking in. #cmechat
YogAlicia3 Hello,
#cmechat - lurking from EWR between flights.
CMEChat T1
Case Scenario 1: Live ‘lecture’ in a small group mtg (n<50). How can
we add realism & engage the senses? #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor correct. #APDIM13 is the internal medicine residency
program director meeting. Pediatrics one
was #APPD2013 (already done). #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
I personally like the simplicity of thinking about the senses...forces
educators to narrow in on an overlooked element #CMEChat
theCMEguy Nothing
makes #CMEchat more dreary than when it's raining on the east coast. Need more
west coasters!
MedPedsDoctor T1.
Food never hurts to engage the senses from cranial nerve 1. #cmechat
brandeeplott Using
video with real patients really seems to hit home with participants. #cmechat
rmtyner T1
Video and audio can help to engage the patients #cmechat
brandeeplott Sense
of smell is intricately tied w/ memory. If only a way to incorporate that!
#cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t1:
perhaps the easiest approach is to role play. the adage, "stand if you'll
be standing, sit if you'll be sitting" #CMEChat #smallgroups
MedPedsDoctor I
think video works well, but some get "tuned out" when video takes a
while to load/is blocked/computer-goes-haywire/no-wireless #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @brandeeplott
- oh there are many ways to engage the sense of smell...but can you do it while
the room is full of plated dinners? #CMEchat
theCMEguy T1: I
always like when something can be passed around for those in the group to look
at, feel, touch, try, etc #CMEchat
aCMEstory T1:
Remove the "staging" and have the faculty roam the room, interacting
with table groups and individuals. #CMEchat
brandeeplott @thecmeguy
We could have an in-person #CMEchat on Vail. 60 & sunny today. #CACME
here in July.
YogAlicia3 @theCMEguy
Eastern time zone isn't all bad. #CMEchat t.co/BAZ4ED83LI
BrianSMcGowan T1:
instead of setting the room to feel like an awards ceremony, design it to feel
more like a [fill in the blank] #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor handout?
MT @theCMEguy: T1: I always like when something can be passed around for those
in the group to look at, feel, touch, try. #cmechat
mbaffuto T1:
any visual that includes patient helps in PBL. Seeing 6 yo discuss his asthma
more powerful than fac discuss 6 y/o with ashtma #cmechat
theCMEguy @MedPedsDoctor
Good point. Time delays are killers. #CMEchat
brandeeplott Having
real patient tell their story very compelling. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor cocktail
party MT @BrianSMcGowan: T1: instead of setting room 2 feel like an awards
ceremony, design it to feel more like a [blank] #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t1:
but also think how senses could be a distraction to learning! windows to a
pool? not good for 'simulation' #CMEchat
brandeeplott Also,
anything that impacts emotions tied to memory. Lots of data on this. #cmechat
theCMEguy @MedPedsDoctor
Sure, but I was thinking even more. Some sort of tool, e.g. special gloves that
sim MS, RA, etc #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor
- sadly that is the standard faire at most CME meetings...and the expectation
of most learners...#CMEchat
CMEChat Remember
that we are considering 'engagement' in
small settings (<50 learners) #CMEChat
MedPedsDoctor As
a practicing doc, I really love hearing patient stories. I have found many
physicians turned off by this method. Don't know why. #cmechat
aCMEstory Space
ship @briansmcgowan: instead of setting the room to feel like an awards
ceremony, design it to feel more like a
#CMEchat :-)
YogAlicia3 @theCMEguy
#cmechat Devices that simulate patient challenges for healthy learners -
gloves, glasses, etc.
BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory
- is that the next version of CruiseCME? #SpaceXCME #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor .@aCMEstory
At the learning center in Boston across the street from harvard med school, the
top floor looks like a spaceship! #cmechat
beth333SP Like
the ACEHP pres u were involved in 2 yrs ago @theCMEguy @MedPedsDoctor Some sort
of tool, e.g. special gloves sim MS, RA, etc #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor
- bringing patients into #meded is getting ALOT of chatter, but seems little
practical discussion of how best. #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Build
little nooks and crannies for "hallway conversation" at education
centers. Lots of learning going on in
those nooks! #cmechat
CMEChat T1:
no suggestions yet around taste or (surprisingly) hearing? #CMEChat
mbaffuto in
small setting, it is critical that faculty have skills to engage. lecture to 15
won't create change, regardless of material #cmechat
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
We have tried live video feed w/ patient. Successful. #cmechat
theCMEguy @beth333SP
Exactly! Recently used those same tools in a grand rounds setting. Worked well
and was nice way for attendees to engage #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
@MedPedsDoctor - engaging in small breakout groups (w/ technology) around a
series of cases. #goldstandard? #CMEchat
brandeeplott @mbaffuto
I think we need speaker training for CME #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @brandeeplott
- do share? what went into the 'coaching' the patient? is your experience
portable? What were your challenges? #CMEchat
YogAlicia3 "@CMEChat
#cmechat Yes - there are tools to simulate hearing loss, for example.
I think more common in UG clinical ed."
MedPedsDoctor how
about QR codes that provide answers to a scavenger hunt to find the room
itself? #cmechat
brandeeplott Important
for practicing clinicians in that specialty. to develop cases. #relevancy
#cmechat
CMEChat preparing
for the 2nd topic...bit of an extension to the first! #CMEChat
MedPedsDoctor and
"how to use AV equipment"-training ... RT @brandeeplott: @mbaffuto I
think we need speaker training for CME #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor
- is that technology guiding learning or replacing evidence-based approaches?
#smallgroups #CMEchat
aCMEstory T1:
For auditory response, use sounds familiar to discipline of learners, ie,
sirens (ED), crying babies (maternity), etc. #cmechat
jjuch "Hi
everyone. Just got on. Sorry I'm late.
#cmechat"
CMEChat T2
Case Scenario 2: Live ‘lecture’ in a LARGE group setting (n<200).
How can we add realism & engage the senses? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan #TOTD
RT @aCMEstory: T1: For auditory, use sounds familiar to learners, ie, sirens
(ED), crying babies (maternity), etc. #cmechat
aCMEstory T2:
Predispose and engage learners w/ appropriate #SoMe & #edtech w/ tips
and tools to prepare them for learning experience. #CMEchat
YogAlicia3 #cmechat
Using taste can also be - try to eat a meal w xyz device that challenges your
ADLs.
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
Gout patient participated in planning calls and slide review for 10 dinner
meetings along with faculty. Used WebEx #cmechat
aCMEstory T2:
Use actors to represent healthcare stakeholders and create a narrative from the
patient's perspective. t.co/USKu7e5ZpT
#CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T2:
w/ the 2nd topic we must consider costs, logistics of moving people, room control...and
lack of intimacy? #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor T2. confident speaker who knows material makes a
world of difference. Also, participants
who WANT to be there, not "just because" #cmechat
brandeeplott For
nursing CE mtg, we actually put nurses in place of MS pt. Made them feel how MD
pt felt. #cmechat
mbaffuto T2:
tech makes sense here. ipad on each table, internet tie in, etc. gets very
expensive. #barrier #cmechat
mathena123 #CMEchat
hey from London. I guess that you need to decide what you want to achieve. The
tools can become gimmicky if not used with a purpose
BrianSMcGowan T2:
perhaps less opportunity to stand, sit, pass around, share, discuss in large
settings...technology may be even more critical #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor This
—> MT @aCMEstory: Predispose & engage learners w/ approp #SoMe
& #edtech w/ tips & tools 2 prepare them for lrng experience
#cmechat
brandeeplott Cost
is why web conferencing works well in live mtg setting. #cmechat
mbaffuto Oh
yeah. Innovate for the sake of innovation. @methena123 The tools can become
gimmicky if not used with a purpose #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
but room sounds, sight lines, smells are (obviously) scalable...may be more
critical for larger group settings? #CMEChat #meded #lrnchat
theCMEguy T2:
Tie in food served at meal with learning point of presentation. #CMEchat
jjuch great
suggestions but think key is knowing learner expectations for setting Lots of
docs come to live CE and DON'T want engagement #cmechat
YogAlicia3 @mathena123
Agree. Prob part of why they're better in smaller groups. More control of
experience. #cmechat
brandeeplott I've
been wanting to try incoporating Google Hangouts in live mtgs. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor One
issue w web conferencing is that the learner can always "opt out" by
checking email, doing other things while "learning". #cmechat
jjuch "Was
talking to state assoc chapter recently who said when she tried to make
sessions interactive was told ""go back to old way""
#cmechat"
BrianSMcGowan Ever
watch surgeons cut their grilled chicken? RT @theCMEguy: T2: Tie in food served
at meal with learning point of presentation. #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor "Eat
healthy" (wow, check out this cheesecake!) RT @theCMEguy: T2: Tie in food
served at meal with learning point of presentation. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan .@brandeeplott
- raises the question as to whether virtual speakers can help or hurt when it
comes to engaging senses/emotions? #CMEchat
brandeeplott Participants
often have bad attitude about engaging. We have to rewire their thinking on
this. #cmechat
mathena123 @MedPedsDoctor
is that a problem if they are not being engaged? #cmechat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
No. Frankly, I've had some difficulty with eating chicken ever since my gross
anatomy lab... #CMEchat
CMEChat T2:
any concerns about sensory distractions at live meetings? What can't we
control? #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor all
the more reason to optimize other methods RT @mathena123: @MedPedsDoctor is
that a problem if they are not being engaged? #cmechat
brandeeplott @mathena123
Great point! #cmechat
mbaffuto need
to set expectations for interactive session in large group (ie, symposium) with
marketing materials #cmechat
jjuch Agree How
validate learner is there once signed on @MedPedsDoctor "issue w web
conferencing is the learner can always "opt out" #cmechat
theCMEguy @brandeeplott
Be careful with talk of "rewiring". Don't "force"
participants to learn in ways they don't want. You'll only lose 'em #CMEchat
jjuch Good pt RT
@mbaffuto: need to set expectations for interactive session in large group (ie,
symposium) with marketing materials #cmechat
CMEChat ...seems
to be a perfect segue shaping up here as we prepare for the 3rd topic #CMEchat
brandeeplott @thecmeguy
Yes, ate cat in Vietnam and could only think of college lab! #cmechat
mbaffuto have
had success with U shape seating for those who want to engage and classroom
seating behind for those who want to observe #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor T2.
Can't control wireless not working (note to ACEHP and hotel for next years
presis on SoMe: make sure wireless works/backup) #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan #TMI
#yuck RT @brandeeplott: @thecmeguy Yes, ate cat in Vietnam and could only think
of college lab! #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor .@mbaffuto
fascinating. Has anyone ever
written/published on U-shaped seating? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @mbaffuto
...but in rooms with 200+? #CMEchat
theCMEguy @mbaffuto
But how big of a group can you realistically do that with? #CMEchat
CMEChat T3
Scenario 3: Online learning module (non-live) w/ or w/o simulated patient
video. How can we add realism & engage the senses #CMEchat
brandeeplott @thecmeguy
Hmmm, good point. #cmechat
mathena123 #CMEchat
a good speaker speaks to the audience and what they need the extras should only
be there if they augment the experience.
BrianSMcGowan T3:
if we accept that educators have much less control, then online learning is
more about creating sensory 'opportunities'...#CMEChat
aCMEstory T2:
In a group of 200+ break the group down by demographics and create competition.
Right away it sets the tone... #CMEchat
brandeeplott I read
recently that painting a picture and telling a story to start off really
stimulates senses. #SteveJobs #cmechat
mbaffuto @thecmeguy
gets difficult >100. (>50 in U). requires skilled facilitator and
a lot of planning. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @mathena123
- watched.too many speakers & CME folks giggle their way through
gimmicks that do no more than distract learning. #CMEchat
aCMEstory T3:
Use a "call for cases" format to create learner-derived content that
is highly relevant and semi-personalized. #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Competition
works well for personality types who "like" competition. For those who don't, automatic turn-off/disengagement
ensues #cmechat
mbaffuto @acmestory
+1. Competitiveness is the 9th sense.
#cmechat
mathena123 #CMEchat
I have been to some great events where keypads have been used for great needs
assessments in the room
BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory
- about expectation management...agree that this wld help, but how many
learners would feel forced? #CMEchat #passiveplease?
brandeeplott Always
wanted to play around with having participants view slightly varied content
based on pre-activity questions. #Relevancy #cmechat
aCMEstory T3:
Use audiovisual cues in #elearning so that learners know when topics, content
is changing and remain engaged. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t3:
one way that has been tried, but have yet to see much data is on 2nd life-ish
virtual learning. #CMEChat
theCMEguy T3:
Need to provide a way for participant to engage, feel involved, ask questions.
Opportunity for comments, #SoMe interaction, etc #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T3...sounds
can be tough online, but you could allow learners to 'activate' a 'soundtrack'
to support learning! #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor As
an early adopter of audience response systems (ARS), I learned the hard way
that writing good ARS ?s is definitely a skill #cmechat
YogAlicia3 @MedPedsDoctor
#cmechat Gamification doesn't hafta be competitive. Maybe choose alternative
game designs.
BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor
- and weaving ARS into a presentation is a skill too...too many fail to help
learners reflect #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor agree!
RT @YogAlicia3: @MedPedsDoctor #cmechat Gamification doesnt hafta be
competitive. Maybe choose alternative game designs. #cmechat
brandeeplott @medpedsdoctor
I think having too many ARS questions actually puts them to sleep. #cmechat
beth333SP I
1st used one at sm hosp in 1998, had a white paper for fac on how to...
@MedPedsDoctor writing good ARS ?s is definitely a skill #cmechat
aCMEstory @briansmcgowan There will always be some passive
participants who learn from observing, listening—engage at own comfort level
#CMEchat
CMEChat as
we wrap up...there have been many great practical ideas shared...which brings
us to topic 4 #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor To
F/U on previous competitiveness comment: a good number of physicians are,
nevertheless, highly competitive. #cmechat
CMEChat T4:
Did you pick up any useful tips or ideas today? If so, what changes are you
prepared to make? #CMEchat #meded
JediPD Anecdotes for
Bookends filled with Substance in a Simple pragmatic manner works the best!
#CMEChat (Interesting chat!)
aCMEstory T3:
Create faculty-led team-based "eCase challenges" and track both
patient and team progress online. #CMEchat #motivatEd
brandeeplott @medpedsdoctor
Would be interesting to quadrant them out to see personality types. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t4:
i will think alot about the sensory distractions...things w/i our control that
distract learners! #CMEchat #overlooked
theCMEguy T4: I
will give more thought to room set-up and how it can be altered to improve
participant experience #CMEchat
mbaffuto T4:
@brandeeplott have real patient interacting with faculty and provider in
activity development. great suggestion. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor T4.
1. read lit on gamification. 2. consider senses besides eyes in learning. 3.
understand & accept "can't please everyone" #cmechat
aCMEstory T3:
Have participants explain rationale for clin decisions in open text format, not
just multiple choice questions and cases. #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Now
I see what @BrianSMcGowan is doing. I
just tweeted my commitment to change as part of this chat! #cmechat
beth333SP Sugg
topic (or series of topics) 4 next week #CMEchat, Sunshine act and how
providers are meeting req’s. Aug 1 will B here B4 we know it!
brandeeplott @medpedsdoctor
BTW - love your great tweets from various conferences recently. #cmechat
JediPD T4: Storylines
associated with data persist longer within the "knowledge pyramid" of
the audience #CMEChat
MedPedsDoctor I
will reference this tweet —> RT @brandeeplott: @medpedsdoctor BTW -
love your great tweets from various conferences recently. #cmechat
aCMEstory RT
@beth333SP: Sugg topic (or series of topics) 4 next week #CMEchat, Sunshine act
and how providers are meeting req’s. Aug 1 will B here B4 we know it!
BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor
- may be our new topic 4 or 5 every week...but this week was heavy on the new
ideas! #CMEchat
brandeeplott @jedipd
Agreed. I will try this. #cmechat
CMEChat Thanks
for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion
& not that of employers
CMEChat As
we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this
week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!
CMEChat The
real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect & take
action on things you’ve learned!
CMEChat The
complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at
t.co/EylNu0ipQF
aCMEstory TOTD:
MT @MedPedsDoctor: Now I see what @BrianSMcGowan is doing. I just tweeted my
commitment to change as part of this chat! #cmechat
brandeeplott Too
many good tweets today to pick TOTD #cmechat #indecisive
JediPD TOTD
@MedPedsDoctor:1.read gamification. 2.consider senses besides eyes in learning.
3.understand & accept "can't please everyone" #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor #TOTD
RT @brandeeplott: Too many good tweets today to pick TOTD #cmechat #indecisive
#cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Thanks
for a wonderful chat topic today, and a lively discussion. Great points for future learning. #cmechat
T1: What are the benefits
of using case studies or simulations in medical education activities? Any
downsides? #CMEchat
T2: There is a huge range b/w
how some define as ‘case studies’ & ‘simulations’, how do you define each?
Examples? #CMEchat
T3: How important is
feedback for learners ‘practicing’ w/case studies/simulation? Give some
examples of feedback... #CMEchat
T4: With so many different
models available, how do you decide what form of case study or simulation to
employ? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan Please
join #CMEchat 71 in 2 hours as we discuss the role of case studies and
simulations in medical education #meded #edtech
BrianSMcGowan Please
join #CMEchat 71 in 60 minutes as we discuss the role of case studies and
simulations in medical education #meded #edtech
BrianSMcGowan Please
join #CMEchat 71 in 25 minutes as we discuss the role of case studies and
simulations in medical education #meded #edtech
Bonnycastle RT
@BrianSMcGowan: Please join #CMEchat 71 in 9 minutes as we discuss the role of
case studies and simulations in medical education
aCMEstory Likely
to miss most of #CMEchat today. Look forward to the transcript. #meded
aCMEstory "Medical
simulation-based education improves medicos' clinical skills. t.co/M0oauEIQKW
#CMEchat"
CMEChat Welcome
to #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion & not that
of current, past, or future employers.
CMEChat As
we get started, please introduce yourself: Location? Focus? Favorite topics?
What brings you here today? #CMEchat
CMEChat A
new question will be asked every 8-10 min or so. If you can, please include “T#” in related responses. #CMEchat
CMEChat Please
remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the participants can follow the
#CMEchat discussion
CMEChat Topics
will guide the discussion, but real learning & teaching lies in your
tweets - please engage. #CMEchat
CMEChat The
complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived at t.co/EylNu0ipQF
shortly after the session has ended.
BrianSMcGowan Goooooooood
Morning #CMEchat-ter. Brian here from the nearly spring-like Philadelphia
region...looking forward to a great conversation!
triciawil Tricia here
from rainy Cville. Happy Monday!
#cmechat
BrianSMcGowan Just
a reminder that today is the deadline for the #acehp14 call for abstracts:
t.co/zi9I6dKnk7 #CMEchat
rmtyner Michelle
from indiana - looking forward to getting back to my routines after spring
break in NYC #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan Hello
to @rmtyner and @triciawil #CMEchat
beth333SP #CMEchat
Beth Brillinger, Director of Accreditation from CME Outfitters joining in.
Ready to learn.
BrianSMcGowan Lets
give the late arrivers time to settle in...great theme today...and lots of good
data to draw upon! Simulations & Case Studies! #CMEchat
HaleyMarie3 Haley
here from Ohio. Good morning! #cmechat
Bonnycastle Deirdre
Bonnycastle Medical Faculty Developer Saskatchewan, Canada #CMEchat
aCMEstory Teaching
med students a clin approach to altered mental status:simulation enhances
curriculum. t.co/Z0B6WSRtsb #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan Good
morning to @Bonnycastle @HaleyMarie3 and @beth333SP #CMEchat
CMEChat As
normal we will begin with a general topic...to get our juices flowing! #CMEchat
CMEChat T1:
What are the benefits of using case studies or simulations in #meded
activities? Any downsides? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
i like to think of simulation and cases as stories...they allow the learners to
play the role of protagonist #CMEchat
rmtyner T1
I think that case studies and simulations can improve knowledge translation
into practice-if learners can relate to the patient #cmechat
Bonnycastle #CMEchat
Cases bring relevance to basic sciences and ideally teach higher order thinking
HaleyMarie3 T1:
Bring the education to life, make it more relatable to real life #meded
#cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
both simulations and case studies force the planners to think through the
scenarios...must offer authenticity! #CMEchat
Bonnycastle #CMEchat
Downside- Good cases and simulations take time and knowledge to develop
BrianSMcGowan Latter
point is critical! RT @Bonnycastle: #CMEchat Cases bring relevance to basic
sciences and ideally teach higher order thinking
triciawil T1 Case
studies give a different context to learning; retention may be higher due to
relatability #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
the authenticity of case or simulation may not always be portable...may require
very local knowledge in some cases. #CMEchat
rmtyner T1
downside: if the case is too general then the learners may not engage #cmechat
Bonnycastle #CMEchat
In our new curriculum we are developing 50 Integrated cases to try and help
students develop pattern understanding & making
BrianSMcGowan T1:
the learner engagement that is required may turn off some learners who expect
passive education...sadly. #CMEchat
SteveFmke @BrianSMcGowan
How are you differentiating case studies from simulations? #CMEchat
awinkler58 Red
it! RT @BrianSMcGowan: "Effective Use of Educational Technology in Medical
Education" t.co/LDGn38lqwn
#meded #CMEchat
CMEChat @SteveFmke
;-) next topic...#CMEchat
triciawil T1 We have a
great cath conference we do that is solely case studies. Many are unique scenarios and make for great
discussion. #cmechat
rmtyner @BrianSMcGowan
we need to do a better job of transitioning from passive education to active
education #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
on the other hand the interactivity of case studies allows for very unique data
to be gathered...formatively. #CMEchat
SteveFmke @CMEChat
T2: Defining case studies vs. simulations. For cognitive specialties they can
often be the same thing. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @rmtyner
-...and we MUST manage the expectation of learners before the sessions begins.
Unfair otherwise. #security #CMEchat
CMEChat T2:
There is a huge range b/w how some define as ‘case studies’ &
‘simulations’, how do you define each? Examples? #CMEchat
Bonnycastle Case
studies more paper/webbased Simulation more role playing #CMEchat
rmtyner @BrianSMcGowan
totally agree - there can't be a #baitandswitch
#cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T2:
I would love to find some concensus on describing a threshold...if they are
really a continuum? #CMEchat
triciawil T2 I define
simulations as "live" action as opposed to archived (most
cases). #cmechat
rmtyner T2
my definition is that many case studies are amalgam of multiple scenarios;
simulation walks the learner through a single patient #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
in my experience educators seem to describe case studies as an entrypoint to
simulation...but not always #CMEchat
beth333SP T2
Case studies = watch a scene unfold. Simulation = be a part of the scene (which
may include own heart rate increasing, sweat)
#CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @triciawil
- do you mean 'live' as in 'synchronous' or as in 'in person'? #CMEchat
SteveFmke #CMEchat
A well-written online case study that requires active decision making can
become a simulation. Both should allow for some role play
BrianSMcGowan @beth333SP
- i like this answer as much as any other I have heard...#CMEchat
triciawil @BrianSMcGowan
Synchronous #cmechat
beth333SP Thanks!
@BrianSMcGowan: @beth333SP - i like this answer as much as any other I have
heard...#CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T2:
the neurophysiology of storytelling allows the learner (reader) to react much
the same way as the protagonist. #endorphins #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
so in theory we could measure how authentic a case study or simulation is by
measuring hormone levels. #level8 #CMEchat
SteveFmke @beth333SP
Sims are great for crisis role playing but are needed for routine patient care
practice too. Simple is good! #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
i have seen many case studies that are more emotionally engaging than other
simulations...tis why definitions are hard. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
several folks have mentioned 'role-playing' ...so perhaps all three terms are
interoperable for some? #CMEchat
triciawil @BrianSMcGowan
Difference is involvement (hands on vs observing) of learner in the sim? #cmechat
Bonnycastle Not a
lot of hormones in stitching a piece of plastic yet that is an important
simulation #CMEchat
beth333SP Or
HR, Resp, BP, biofeedback. Instead of lie detector, build a learn detector.
@BrianSMcGowan: t2 ...by measuring hormone levels #CMEchat
SteveFmke #CMEchat
How about: a case study is rehearsal of a single care issue. A simulation is
rehearsal of a full patient encounter.
BrianSMcGowan RT
@RonanTKavanagh: @shimmerresearch has used biosensors to assess people
physiological response to diff film endings in movies.. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @Bonnycastle
...but if you could pipe in crying baby sounds and have the simulator start
squirting blood unexpectedly...#CMEchat
SteveFmke @Bonnycastle
Good point - sims can be used as skill development. Skills can mean patient
communication, right? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan #TOTY
RT @beth333SP: Or HR, Resp, BP, biofeedback. Instead of lie detector, build a
learn detector. #CMEchat
Bonnycastle @BrianSMcGowan
#CMEchat but that would be unfair to a beginner who needs to practice the
mundane
SteveFmke @SteveFmke
Both are acting exercises. One is one beat, one if the whole scene. #CMEchat
CMEChat T3:
How important is feedback for learners ‘practicing’ w/case
studies/simulation? Give some examples of feedback.... #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @Bonnycastle
- fair enough...true. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan on
Role-playing: RT @SteveFmke: Both are acting exercises. One is one beat, one if
the whole scene. #CMEchat
Bonnycastle @SteveFmke
Exactly my point there is a continuum from simple to complex in both cases and
simulations #CMEchat
triciawil T3 Very. Especially during. For example, stopping periodically during a
case to ask WWYD. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t3:
feedback may actually be a great way to differentiate b/w cases and
simulation...does feedback come from w/i the scene? #CMEchat
Bonnycastle T3
#CMEchat debriefing is essential in both, good feedback makes the experience
HaleyMarie3 T3:
polling during the activity to get feedback from learners #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t3:
for example...feedback may be delivered in tactile ways: Haptic technology:
t.co/TnXYRYKfLP #simulations #CMEchat
Bonnycastle @HaleyMarie3
good point encourage polling in cases especially #CMEchat
rmtyner T3
feedback is critical maybe that could be the differentiation between case study
and simulation #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan you
went to other way...but critical too! #learners RT @HaleyMarie3: T3: polling
during the activity to get feedback from learners #cmechat
beth333SP T3
Example: Patient actors teaching clinicians how to communicate a terminal dx.
No one can know how to do this w/out practice. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T3:
in role-playing the feedback should, as much as possible, come from w/i the
scenario...colleagues, patients vs instructors. #CMEchat
Bonnycastle @BrianSMcGowan
#CMEchat peer feedback is also an ungoing reality of group cases
BrianSMcGowan T3:
in case studies feedback can be linear (independent) or adaptive (dependent) -
both are good, won is better ;-) #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan Great
conversation...high TPM...keep it up as I begin to introduce our fourth topic!
#CMEchat
Bonnycastle The
#1 topic physicians want help with is giving feedback well #CMEchat -learned
skill
BrianSMcGowan t3:
i love this theme in general b/c, perhaps more than any other educational
model, the educator MUST plan rigorously. #CMEchat
CMEChat T4:
With so many different models available, how do you decide what form of case
study or simulation to employ? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @Bonnycastle
as far as becoming a teacher, or delivering care? or both? #CMEchat
Bonnycastle #CMEchat
LOL being an educator I always go back to objectives what is it you want the
participant to learn and what is the best tool. T4
BrianSMcGowan t4:
one of the simple answers to how to decide is undoubtedly going to be
cost...& timing...but surely there are other reasons too #CMEchat
Bonnycastle @BrianSMcGowan
Sorry I work with them in their role of teacher #CMEchat
beth333SP T4
Recipes vary, consider topic, aud, gaps, LO's, what can be changed? (make
1change?) measured? reinforced? short term? Long term? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t4:
is it fair to say that case studies emphasize decision making skills,
simulations emphasize psychomotor skills #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @Bonnycastle
- i thought as much...critical point! Thanks. #CMEchat
Bonnycastle @BrianSMcGowan
simulations also improve communication #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @beth333SP
- does that mean that there is definitive comparative data to support each of
those decision points? #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Jumping
in late. T4. Most simulations also
include decision making while incorporating psychomotor skills #cmechat
CMEChat Next
week, would we be interested in a fun topic about engaging our learners through
engaging their senses in unexpected ways? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor
- thanks for joining...can you draw for yourself a clear line b/w case studies
and simulations? #CMEchat
beth333SP That
is the goal @BrianSMcGowan: does that mean that there is definitive comparative
data to support each of those decision points? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan and
scents..and creative tension! RT @Bonnycastle: @CMEChat Great idea! Thinking a
lot about music and art in meded #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Nope. Simulations are "case studies":
case of a pt w X, for which we are studying how you interact w Y (machine or
persons). #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T2/4
it is interesting that the Peabody data around case vignettes (mini cases) -
shows such strong correlation to practice. #CMEchat
Bonnycastle @BrianSMcGowan
Another difference between cases and simulation - Can do cases fairly easily
with large classes tougher with sim #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor
- so it is the interactivity with external agents that makes a simulation a
simulation? #worksforme #CMEchat
SteveFmke @MedPedsDoctor
So are PBL activities case studies or simulations? Not all pt encounters
require alot of motor skills. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @Bonnycastle
- thought about that too...but i could have 500 folks break into a roleplaying
exercise, no? #AbAbAbAb #CMEchat ;-)
CMEChat Thanks
for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion
& not that of employers
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we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this
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alliance4cehp RT
@BrianSMcGowan: Just a reminder that today is the deadline for the #acehp14
call for abstracts: t.co/zi9I6dKnk7 #CMEchat
CMEChat The
complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at
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MedPedsDoctor Our
sim center includes a part w "external agents" (mannequins,
ventilators), & a part w rooms for interaction betw people #cmechat
Bonnycastle @BrianSMcGowan
Lol I've seen that tried very noisy and convoluted - Second Life #CMEchat
SteveFmke @BrianSMcGowan
Agents external to whom? Patient? Provider? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @SteveFmke
...i would think external to the learner...once you add an interaction w/ an
external agent you are 'simulating'... #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor My
point is that case studies is the larger circle, of which simulation falls w/in
it. All sim are cases, but not all cases
R sim #cmechat
SteveFmke @BrianSMcGowan
Then provider interacting with imagined pt is an external factor. That's common
to cases and simulations. #CMEchat
Bonnycastle @SteveFmke
Our PBL are case studies but I could see how they might be done as sims if we
were working with smaller numbers #CMEchat
SteveFmke @MedPedsDoctor
Doesn't it depend on what you're trying to simulate? #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor @SteveFmke
correct. #cmechat
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BrianSMcGowan Good
morning to the #CMEchat-ters...great topic today on a beautiful day in the NE
of the US! Brian here moderating, participating!
meducate #CMEchat
Lawrence joining from Rome today - in between meetings
theCMEguy Derek
here in warm and sunny Chestnut Hill. Looking forward to today's topic!
#CMEchat
theCMEguy RT
@meducate: #CMEchat Lawrence joining from Rome today - in between meetings
theCMEguy Are
the Mets on a road trip? RT @meducate: #CMEchat Lawrence joining from Rome
today - in between meetings
triciawil Tricia from
sunny & warm Cville! I can only
participate for a bit but I'm here.
#cmechat
BrianSMcGowan G'morning
to derek and lawrence...#CMEchat spans from Charlottesville to Rome...
MedPedsDoctor I
should be on for a short time; Alex Djuricich, from sunny Indianapolis, excited
about the topic of technology! #cmechat
theCMEguy @MedPedsDoctor
Hey Alex! #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan Is
it sunny everywhere? or is that just a perk of being a #CMEchat-ter?
HaleyMarie3 Haley
here from Ohio, good morning! #cmechat
meducate #CMEchat
hiya Alex @MedPedsDoctor
BrianSMcGowan Today
we are reaching back into the vault and revisiting a topic that we covered in
#CMEchat 23: Technology and the CME profession #edtech
MedPedsDoctor There
is nothing that warms my heart more on a Monday than the "rowboat of
goodness": AKA @theCMEguy #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor
@theCMEguy ...is it just me, or does it appear that Derek is trying to row away
from us though? #CMEchat
CMEChat T1:
What are your “can’t live without†pieces of
technology and how do you use them to enhance your Personal Learning Network?
#CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
@MedPedsDoctor Not seen in this pic...Derek having no idea what he's doing and
5 minutes later losing an oar #CMEchat
aCMEstory 'Morning.
Greselda checking in, ready to be schooled on tech in in CME. #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor there
is also the joy of hearing from the mentor of mentors: @meducate Greetings from
this side of the Atlantic! #cmechat
brandeeplott Good
morning! Brandee Plott here! #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
I could go through them each, but @C4LPT does a great job collating all of my
faves! t.co/qYBKlbrQ68 #CMEchat #edtech ;-)
meducate #CMEchat
T1 I cannot do what I do without my iPhone, iPad and, gulp, in some cases, my
laptop. From point of education to point of care
theCMEguy T1:
This is very broad, but having a smartphone has changed how I learn immensely.
#CMEchat
triciawil T1: Definitely my iPhone. Twitter & news apps, especially. #cmechat
meducate Wow!
RT @MedPedsDoctor: there is also the joy of hearing frm mentor of mentors:
@meducate Greetings frm this side of the Atlantic! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t1:
IMO, the tech that gets overlooked the most is WiFi...it redefines the walls of
the universal classroom in time & space #CMEchat
theCMEguy T1:
Armed with my phone and laptop (MacBook Air), I feel like and can do pretty
much anything (well, within reason...) #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor "Can't-live-without-it"
piece of technology: Mobile tablet.
Because of this, we're having an ENTIRE conference about this! #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Mobile
tablets in medical education: t.co/RYELauhLSw 5/31/13. It will be awesome! #cmechat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
Good point. Something we don't think about until we don't have. Planners of conferences,
please take note! #CMEchat
theCMEguy RT
@MedPedsDoctor: Mobile tablets in medical education: t.co/RYELauhLSw
5/31/13. It will be awesome! #cmechat
michaelbmoore RT
@MedPedsDoctor: Mobile tablets in medical education: t.co/RYELauhLSw
5/31/13. It will be awesome! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
taking the idea of WiFi a step further...i now live and learn almost
exclusively in the 'cloud' = my external brain! #CMEchat
aCMEstory T1:
The Internet! eTOCs and saved searches on PubMed are critical for me to curate
new information and prioritize learning. #CMEchat
HaleyMarie3 T1:
iphone for pulse news, twitter, facebook #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Someday,
wireless will be available at conferences without costing the equivalent of the
GDP of a small country. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor
- do u have a learning room reporter for your meeting...someone assigned to
tweet and share? from a mobile device? #CMEchat
brandeeplott I
cannot do without my Hootsuite mobile app. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor .@aCMEstory
Can you give one example of one of your favorite saved searches? #cmechat
theCMEguy I'm
still a TweetDeck guy RT @brandeeplott: I cannot do without my Hootsuite mobile
app. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory
- T1: the idea of saved searches...through pubmed or google alerts...not only
allows awareness, but archive too! #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor .@BrianSMcGowan
We sure do. We even are working on
finalizing this: t.co/aNL4j91A4v #cmechat
theCMEguy T1:
WordPress is a can't live without tool for me, too. #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Isn't
TweetDeck being phased out? #cmechat
aCMEstory @medpedsdoctor
Sure. sensor based technology in medicine. You'd be surprised what you get
back! #CMEchat
meducate #CMEchat
T1 the theme, therefore is the Internet, connected via wifi/phone, via portable
devices. Ok, T2? :)
BrianSMcGowan T1:
i use public PubMed collections, including "Social Media in Medicine"
t.co/BeQU5T6q6B #CMEchat
brandeeplott Have
saved entire rain forests with Evernote. No more stickies! #cmechat
aCMEstory @thecmeguy
And what fine work you accomplish with it. Love that blog! #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t1:
perhaps even more specific than WordPress, I use the 'Press This' widget to
archive any resources I find! #CMEchat
giasison Bingo!
RT @meducate: #CMEchat T1 the theme, therefore is the Internet, connected via
wifi/phone, via portable devices. Ok, T2? :)
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
Do you do it straight through PubMed or via a 3rd part app? #CMEchat
CMEChat T2:
What recent advances in Tech have you seen incorporated into CME/CPD? Where is
CME community lagging behind? #CMEchat cc: @meducate
MedPedsDoctor @Evernote
rocks! RT @brandeeplott: Have saved entire rain forests with Evernote. No more
stickies! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan NCBI
RT @theCMEguy: @BrianSMcGowan Do you do it straight through PubMed or via a 3rd
part app? #CMEchat
meducate #CMEchat
I struggle with the lack of free local storage of notes with Evernote
theCMEguy Aw,
shucks #blush RT @aCMEstory: @thecmeguy And what fine work you accomplish with
it. Love that blog! #CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
I used to do saved searches via Google Reader #RIP #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor T2.
Utilizing QR codes for links to archived RSS, such as Grand Rounds. Haven't just seen it; have DONE it! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
this question is still a bit of a dissappointment to me...especially if I look
for successful application of tech in CME...#CMEchat
spelletier t2
just had this conversation the other day with someone looking for good
examples—hard to find #cmechat
aCMEstory T2:
Use of medical simulation software in surgical (and other) settings has been a
cool newer development in CME. #CMEchat
theCMEguy .@MedPedsDoctor
Have you seen this thread on QR codes in the CME LinkedIn group?
t.co/FbphBcYkcX #CMEchat
spelletier Anyone
using e-posters? Just saw it for the first time not long ago and thought it a
cool idea #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T2:
jbeginning to layer to layer virtual classrooms on top of live mtgs...creates a
safe digital back channel & archive at once! #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Yes,
Derek, I have. It is interesting.
#cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T2:
does anyone consider Prezi to be a "technological advance" or just
another way to be didactic? #CMEchat #devilsadvocate
HaleyMarie3 T2:
Social sharing widgets part of online CME formats #cmechat
meducate #CMEchat
T2 I look more for better application of existing technologies. I can wait for
nanoCME if we could get better PoC education.
MedPedsDoctor .@spelletier
link for "e-poster", if you have it?
Is there a definition of e-poster? #cmechat
brandeeplott Visual
and video content! So powerful but CME industry doesn't really use it much in
education. #cmechat
dlwdillon RT
@MedPedsDoctor: .@BrianSMcGowan We sure do.
We even are working on finalizing this: t.co/aNL4j91A4v #cmechat
theCMEguy T2: No
surprise CME lagging behind. ARS has been around for years and how often do you
see it used "well" at a CME conf? #CMEchat
aCMEstory T2:
I don't think the lag in ed tech is an awareness issue, but a cost issue.
Pooled resources could create cost-effective options. #CMEchat
meducate #CMEchat
T2 @BrianSMcGowan Platforms don't move didactic to active, educators do.
MedPedsDoctor The
tech is only as good as those who use it/want to use it. Chats such as this, or even better those w
pts —> true communities! #cmechat
theCMEguy @brandeeplott
True. How many CME orgs have something as simple as a YouTube channel? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @HaleyMarie3
- wouldn't it be great if we could truly share learning efficiently and
broadly...still seems novel to so many! #CMEchat
theCMEguy T2:
Does anyone think issues of accreditation hold us back from using advances in
tech? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory
in my opinion: Creativity barrier >>> awareness barrier
>> cost barrier #CMEchat
brandeeplott Love
the use of virtual patients but rarely used in live meetings. The technology is
there! #cmechat
aCMEstory T2:
Would love to see use of TedEd "Lessons Worth Sharing" catch on for
CME community! #motivation #CMEchat
brandeeplott @thecmeguy
Somewhat. But there are few industries that aren't regulated by something.
#cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy
- yes. but see my last tweet...i would think this is pretty low on the list of
barriers...#CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Have
to resist the urge to use the "latest & greatest" tech—just
for the sake of using it! But wow, do I
love my mobile tablet! #cmechat
CMEChat Since
the conversation has already started to move here....here is topic 3 on
barriers! #CMEchat
aCMEstory @briansmcgowan
You may be right, but the latter can be a powerful deterrent to creativity.
#CMEchat
CMEChat T3:
What are some of the barriers faced for implementing new technologies in
education? w/ learners? w/ faculty? #CMEchat
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
If commercially supported, cost barrier is key. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Barriers
are created so that creative folks can find innovative solutions #cmechat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
It just adds another layer of complexity which combined with cost &
resistance of others created a lag in usage #CMEchat
brandeeplott Isn't
resistance to change the ultimate barrier? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @brandeeplott
sure...but it seems that there are thousands of #edtech applications that are
cost neutral or cost saving. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T2/T3:
if the focus were truly on evidence-based education than innovation would be
essential to the 'CME profession', no? #CMEchat
aCMEstory T3:
Ingrained behaviors that "we've always done this, it worked, so why change
it?" Reassess what "works" in an evolving landscape. #CMEchat
brandeeplott We
sometimes fail to convey the value of new technologies or a true strategy for
using them. #cmechat
theCMEguy @MedPedsDoctor
Some of the most fun I've had in CME is working around barriers. A lack of
barriers can cause a lack of creativity #CMEchat
HaleyMarie3 T3:
Cost of the technology RT @CMEChat: T3: What are some of the barriers faced for
implementing new technologies in education? #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Here's
a great example of using tech: the Assoc of Ped Prog Directors mtg is this
week. Created an app. It's awesome. #cmechat
spelletier t3
can be budgetary barriers, plus learning curve for learners to figure out how
to use #cmechat
brandeeplott Marketers
incorrectly start with tactics all the time. We do the same in education.
#cmechat
MedPedsDoctor @APPD
app for the upcoming meeting with @COMSEPediatrics :
t.co/GhvZfsAyxD #cmechat
CMEChat T3:
in no order our barriers are: resistance to change, cost, regulations,
creativity deficiency, learners & faculty discomfort. #CMEchat
theCMEguy Restriction
& Creativity: What The CME Community Can Learn From Jack White
t.co/GcWP7kxPQI #CMEchat
spelletier #TOTD
@theCMEguy Some of the most fun Ive had in CME is working around barriers. A
lack of barriers can cause a lack of creativity #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor what
should we start with? RT @brandeeplott: Marketers incorrectly start with
tactics all the time. We do the same in education. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t3:
learners need a safe and familiar learning environment, but they also need to
be nudged to learn more efficiently #CMEchat #meded (1/2)
spelletier t3
plus time to learn to use (staff and learners) #cmechat
brandeeplott @thecmeguy
Great post. #cmechat
HaleyMarie3 RT
@theCMEguy: Restriction & Creativity: What The CME Community Can Learn
From Jack White t.co/4oJrlCvf2O #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Never
waste a good crisis/barrier as an opportunity to be creative/innovate! #cmechat
spelletier Goals
come first, then match tactic that will most likely get u there RT
@MedPedsDoctor: what should we start with? RT
#cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t3:
IMO it's a professional obligation to not be paralyzed by new tech. Must lead
learners & fauclty into the future #CMEchat #meded (1/2)
brandeeplott @spelletier
Plus, instructors need to be able to teach it. #cmechat
aCMEstory T3:
As our competencies grow as healthcare educators, those barriers seem to fall away,
yielding a better product. #CMEchat #leanforward
GoldCareInMed @brandeeplott
YES! Strategy for using technologies is KEY! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan #TOTD
RT @aCMEstory: T3: As competencies grow as educators, barriers seem to fall
away, yielding a better product. #CMEchat >> #Amen
MedPedsDoctor Hmmm! In a parallel world, this chat happening
20-25 years ago discussed email as the new tech! How far we've come ... #cmechat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
I agree, but it's not always easy. Some people don't just resist new tech; they
get angry about it. #CMEchat
GoldCareInMed RT
@MedPedsDoctor: Never waste a good crisis/barrier as an opportunity to be
creative/innovate! #cmechat
aCMEstory @briansmcgowan
So true. Combining the natural learning actions with effective reinforcement
tactics can move the needle. #CMEchat #SocialQI
brandeeplott Healthcare
educators must be willing to try things and learn from failures. #cmechat
CMEChat Great
conversation so far —> Keep it going while we cue up the final topic for
the day! #CMEchat
theCMEguy Senior
management, take note... RT @brandeeplott: Healthcare educators must be willing
to try things and learn from failures. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor "Learning
from failures" by the Chicago Cubs, w a foreward by the Pittsburgh Pirates.
#cmechat
aCMEstory @medpedsdoctor
I just pictured everyone sitting at my meetings w/ giant cell phones and
discussing the newfangled world wide web. #CMEchat
theCMEguy @MedPedsDoctor
er...what have they learned exactly? How to fail better? :-) #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor
- some of us...like those on the #CMEchat...but how many of our learners
& faculty still want simple lecture. #Flexner
aCMEstory @brandeeplott
Agreed. Let's take it a step further and report our failures so others can
learn and avoid pitfalls/waste. #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Actually,
a gr8 example of learning from failures: LA Clippers. #cmechat
theCMEguy .@aCMEstory
@medpedsdoctor t.co/dz4NhqNx2Z #CMEchat
brandeeplott @medpedsdoctor
Rick Pitino's Book Rebound Rules is classic example of this. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan W/o
failure there is no evolution! RT @brandeeplott: Healthcare educators must be
willing to try things and learn from failures. #cmechat
aCMEstory RT
@MedPedsDoctor: Never waste a good crisis/barrier as an opportunity to be
creative/innovate! #cmechat
theCMEguy Yes,
better RT @MedPedsDoctor: Actually, a gr8 example of learning from failures: LA
Clippers. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan RT
@MedPedsDoctor: "Learning from failures" by the Chicago Cubs, w a
foreward by the Pittsburgh Pirates. #cmechat cc: @WashingtonGenerals
MedPedsDoctor This
will be the journal article of the future: #meded intervention that shows NO
impact. #cmechat
meducate #cmechat
Without failures how would we know what successes were?
brandeeplott But we
must be careful to use our failures to grow instead of dwelling on them.
#cmechat
CMEChat T5:
Look into ur crystal ball, what impact do you see emerging technological
advances having on the delivery of CME in the future? #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Q:What
makes a 4-star movie 4 stars? A: Dumb&Dumber RT @meducate: #cmechat
Without failures how would we know what successes were? #cmechat
rmtyner #cmechat
random thought: we need to create education and measurement that is for the
benefit of learners and not our needs as a community
theCMEguy T5:
Well, since this one is teed up for me: This is the Future of CME
t.co/HYyLtrzdVx #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t5:
"UC Irvine Students Using iPads to Learn Scored 23% Higher on Exams"
t.co/2jyognMIdz #CMEchat —> the good (1/2)
brandeeplott Access
to information almost instant. This means clinicians more knowledgeable and we
must keep content relevant #cmechat
theCMEguy #CMEchat
RT @meducate: T5 I see tech impacting more than just delivery...I see it
impacting the continuum of education if we do it right
BrianSMcGowan T5:
Incorporating iPads into a preclinical curriculum: A pilot study.
t.co/xw6YQDgSL8 #CMEchat —> the bad (2/2)
MedPedsDoctor .
@rmtyner Need both. Our needs as a
community is why HC providers are here in the first place. Top of Moore pyramid. #cmechat
aCMEstory T5:
#Connectedlearning —> #Connectedhealthcare > #Systemsbarriers
#CMEchat
brandeeplott More
simulations via iPads. Saw multiple articles just the other day. #cmechat
theCMEguy T5:
Advances in tech that make sharing educational content w/ an open-ended number
of potential learners easier, faster, & cheaper #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T5:
here is one of my collated resource sets around educational technology pilots:
t.co/JgTNF75qvn #meded #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory
- love love love love your #TOTD. Through connected learning, lessons learned
once can be learned permanently! #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T5:
#FOAMed is the future? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T5:
should atleast throw out the idea of @IBMwatson with a #socialQI spin = future
of #meded and #CMEchat
aCMEstory @briansmcgowan
You are a virtual fount of info today! Thanks. #CMEchat
CMEChat Thanks
for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion
& not that of employers
MedPedsDoctor #FOAMed
is the future: as is Promotion and Tenure acknowledging SoMe/blogs. #cmechat
CMEChat As
we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this
week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!
CMEChat The
real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect & take
action on things you’ve learned!
CMEChat The
complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at
t.co/EylNu0ipQF
meducate #cmechat
Arivederci from Roma! Ciao...! Grazie mille @BrianSMcGowan et al
brandeeplott RT
@rmtyner: #cmechat random thought: we need to create education and measurement
that is for the benefit of learners and not our needs as a community
From User Tweet
BrianSMcGowan #CMEchat
this week: "Why is feedback so important in learning?" ** 3 hours
from now! ** #meded #lrnchat #medstudents
BrianSMcGowan #CMEchat
this week: "Why is feedback so important in learning?" ** Just 2
hours from now! ** #meded #lrnchat #medstudents
BrianSMcGowan #CMEchat
this week: "Why is feedback so important in learning?" ** Just 30
minutes! from now! ** #meded #lrnchat #medstudents
CMEChat Welcome
to #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion & not that
of current, past, or future employers.
CMEChat As
we get started, please introduce yourself: Location? Focus? Favorite topics?
What brings you here today? #CMEchat
CMEChat A
new question will be asked every 8-10 min or so. If you can, please include “T#...†in related responses. #CMEchat
CMEChat Please
remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the participants can follow the
#CMEchat discussion
brandeeplott Brandee
Plott here. #CMEchat
CMEChat Topics
will guide the discussion, but real learning & teaching lies in your
tweets - please engage. #CMEchat
CMEChat The
complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived at t.co/874lRuReBT
shortly after the session has ended.
rmtyner @theCMEguy
best data set that i have seen in a long time :) #CMEchat
theCMEguy DW
here in sunny Chestnut Hill #CMEchat
rmtyner Michelle
from Indiana - very eager for a busy, busy week #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan Good
mornimg #CMEchat-ters and welcome to the 69th session...please be on the
lookout for April Fool's day Jokes.
aCMEstory Good
morning fellow #CMEchat-ters. Greselda checking in.
BrianSMcGowan A
recent publication suggested that feedback is MORE important to learning than
learning format. #CMEchat Abstract: t.co/szrnXHTolZ
meducate #CMEchat
Hello from Citi Field. Ah, Opening Day
CMEChat Today
we'll try to explore the question: "Why is feedback so important in
learning?" (and understand how to do it effectively) #CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
The nerve of some people... #cmechat
aCMEstory A
student-centred feedback model for educators. Importance of responsiveness,
receptiveness and reflection. t.co/yQoXTUecEp #CMEchat
rmtyner Mattie
is waiting with baited breath for this week's #cmechat t.co/dkGPHWOtT4
aCMEstory Student
perceptions of assessment and feedback in longitudinal integrated clerkships.
t.co/v0PzolrqMN #CMEchat #constructivist
theCMEguy I'm so
sorry... RT @meducate: #CMEchat Hello from Citi Field. Ah, Opening Day
BrianSMcGowan Let's
give the late arrivers a few more seconds to arrive...and perhaps @HaleyMarie3
will be signing copies of #medmeetings? #CMEchat
meducate #CMEchat
@BrianSMcGowan thanks for the feedback.
I'll consider it and reflect.
BrianSMcGowan Does
anyone else actively google the #CMEchat topic in real time, or that just
something @aCMEstory does. (#goldstar!)
CMEChat T1
- Let's begin at the beginning– Why is feedback so important in learning?
#CMEchat
meducate #CMEchat
Wow, can no one appreciate loyalty to a team? #metsfanforever
rmtyner T1
feedback is how we grow as individuals #CMEchat
myCME The
Macy Foundation document that caused controversy a few yrs back had some great
content on reflective learning. #CMEchat
theCMEguy Sure,
just not THAT team. RT @meducate: #CMEchat Wow, can no one appreciate loyalty to
a team? #metsfanforever
BrianSMcGowan t1:
building on recent #CMEchat sessions, Feedback is important b/c of how
effectively it focuses a learner's perception of need.
brandeeplott It
helps provide a benchmark #cmechat
giasison @meducate
Classic! Will be lurking around #CMEchat First timer here!
aCMEstory T1:
Appropriate feedback can lead to reflection, behavior change, improved
competence and confidence in clinical decision-making. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t1:
feedback provide learners with a new benchmark of where they were vs where they
are...provides awareness...provides structure. #CMEchat
meducate Everyone
welcome Gia! — RT @giasison: @meducate Classic! Will be lurking around
#CMEchat First timer here!
CMEChat "Thx
for joining us!
RT @giasison: @meducate Classic! Will be lurking around
#CMEchat First timer here!"
theCMEguy T1: In
the bowling alley of learning, feedback provides the bumpers #CMEchat
#bumperbowling
theCMEguy Hi
Gia! RT @meducate: Everyone welcome Gia! — RT @giasison: @meducate Classic!
Will be lurking around #CMEchat First timer here!
aCMEstory TOTD:
@theCMEguy T1: In the bowling alley of learning, feedback provides the bumpers
#CMEchat #bumperbowling
BrianSMcGowan t1:
feedback may be a broad brush too: Do we mean objective, subjective, temporally
comparative, cross-comparative? Diff flavors. #CMEchat
rmtyner "T1
i think that the feedback should be tailored to the individual when possible
#CMEchat"
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy
- love the analogy...but sounds of pins banging, sight of pins falling,
scoreboard = feedback too! #CMEchat
theCMEguy @rmtyner
Can you give an example of feedback not tailored to individual? #cmechat
aCMEstory T1:
Because in healthcare, it can be life or death—literally. #CMEchat #feedback
#realtalk
rmtyner T1
feedback improves communication in GME t.co/qio2443I48 #meded #CMEchat
theCMEguy RT
@rmtyner: T1 feedback improves communication in GME t.co/qio2443I48
#meded #CMEchat
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
Is there any research that says 1 is more effective than the other? #cmechat
CMEChat Great
'feedback' so far on the first topic...please keep it coming as we prepare for
topic 2! #CMEchat
rmtyner @theCMEguy
example - screaming at me about my inadequacies is feedback but not effective
for me... #CMEchat
giasison @meducate
Hi Lawrence & all! Thanks for the warm welcome! #CMEchat @theCMEguy
@CMEChat
BrianSMcGowan Great
question! RT @brandeeplott: @briansmcgowan Is there any research that says 1 is
more effective than the other? #cmechat
aCMEstory T1:
Timing, amount/content, mode, audience, environment all factors for
consideration when giving feedback. #CMEchat
brandeeplott Just
as individuals respond to different learnring styles, they may respond
differently to feedback mechanisms. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan In
#socialQI I talk about how giving and accepting feedback may be among the most
critical skills to lifelong learning! #CMEchat #chapter7
theCMEguy @rmtyner
So, not just the content of the feeback, but also the way the feedback is
presented? #cmechat
theCMEguy Agreed
RT @brandeeplott: Just as individuals respond to different learnring styles,
may respond differently to feedback mechanisms. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
and what about the old adage about unsolicited feedback...may come off as only
an opinion vs constructive...#CMEChat
aCMEstory T1:
There is a shared responsibility—the educator must provide feedback and the
learner must request feedback on an ongoing basis. #CMEchat
CMEChat T2
– What are the best approaches to providing feedback in live educational
activities for small groups of 10 - 50? #CMEchat
meducate #CMEchat t.co/Sazkw5ubt3
myCME Do
some learners perceive feedback as criticism? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory
'request' yes. 'accept' certainly. Shared responsibility when it comes to
feedback and lifelong learning. #CMEchat
theCMEguy Yes RT
@myCME: Do some learners perceive feedback as criticism? #cmechat
giasison RT
@CMEChat: T2 – What are the best approaches to providing feedback in live
educational activities for small groups of 10 - 50? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t1:
tone...safety...body language...emotion...timing...reflection. so much goes
into providing feedback. #CMEchat
theCMEguy I
think David Wright just pulled a hammy... RT @meducate: #CMEchat t.co/3UEkDsEmR0
brandeeplott @thecmeguy
Perhaps the first step is to get them to perceive feedback as positive.
#cmechat
aCMEstory T2:
small groups can benefit from combo of tailored individual and group feedback
to foster reflection and self-regulation. #CMEchat
giasison @CMEChat
A2 Feedback in small grps-> Keep it simple & straight forward
#CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
of those things listed, much harder to get across in written feedback vs verbal
feedback #CMEchat
rmtyner T2
i think that in a small group setting - a good moderator can be part of a great
feedback mechanism #CMEchat
brandeeplott @cmechat
Depends on what the educational format was. Hands on training, didactic,
case-based, etc. #cmechat
giasison Agree!RT
@rmtyner: T2 i think that in a small group setting - a good moderator can be
part of a great feedback mechanism #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
all of the same we discussed above must be made real...and scalable..and not
received as overly critical. #CMEchat
brandeeplott Maybe
have a small group discussion regarding what their next steps will be? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
in groups of 50 or fewer, one would think that peer-feedback would be a very
effective approach!? #CMEchat
rmtyner t2
small group feedback could also be a springboard for making changes #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
one interpretation of the question HAS to be 'is this a small group one-off,
episodic, or on-going learning experience?' right? #CMEchat
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
Only if everyone in the discussion group can remain respectful which does not
always happen. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
the article we led off w/ focused on summative fdbck...but seems most
literature uses on-going and therefor formative fdbck? #CMEchat
brandeeplott I
think it would be interesting to regroup after they have had time to reflect
and then discuss. #cmechat
rmtyner @brandeeplott
and give them the opportunity to choose different groups... #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t1/t2:
do we think feedback is positively represented in the overall #meded culture or
is it negataively experienced? #CMEchat #expectations
aCMEstory T2:
Interprofessional education in team communication: working together to improve
patient safety. t.co/MRJDSxWcmV #CMEchat #feedback
CMEChat T3
– What are the best approaches to providing feedback in live educational
activities for large groups of 100+? #CMEchat
theCMEguy @brandeeplott
and this type of feedback-reflection-discussion loop is much easier now
considering the tools tr our disposal #CMEchat
brandeeplott @rmtyner
Yep, good idea. #cmechat
rmtyner T3
i think ARS could be a good way to provide feedback in a larger setting
#CMEchat
brandeeplott @thecmeguy
True, would be neat to do some original research on this. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t2/t3:
Seems to me that the delivery of fdbck is not the magic bullet, it is ensuring
the fdbck is well received that makes change. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @rmtyner
see this? "Good experiences with an audience response system used in
#meded" t.co/EVUgqntPuk #CMEchat
aCMEstory T1/2:
Seems we don't often incorporate giving/receiving/requesting feedback into our
UGME/GME/PGME curricula. Useful for all levels #CMEchat
myCME The
problem is, how much #meded out there actually involves small groups? Small
groups is ideal but often not realistic. #cmechat
theCMEguy T3:
use of multiple "roving instructors" to circulate throughout room and
provide more individual feedback #CMEchat
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
Agreed. #cmechat.
BrianSMcGowan t3:
for fdbck to larger groups: immediately = games/ARS are great tools. overtime =
examples from other learners & SoMe. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @myCME
- see topic 3! #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory
- b/c almost all CME is 'delivered'...we need to get back to structuring a
learning experience in broader terms. #CMEchat
myCME @thecmeguy
Good idea but you would need instructors who are comfortable with this teaching
style. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t3:
what is interesting is how faculty may interact infront of large groups is a
form of fdbck. likewise, I watch other learners. #CMEchat
aCMEstory T2/3:
"Ensuring" feedback is well-received requires value discussion. Even
if negative, there's value in feedback to fix med error. #CMEchat
aCMEstory T3:
Patient outcomes are a type of feedback. Structured chart reviews and
team-based learning can lead to behavior change and #QI. #CMEchat
brandeeplott How
about a live Twitter chat such as what we are doing now? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory
- if the expectation of a physician is "I am always right" then any
and all feedback must seem to be critical #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory
- love the idea of 'helping the learners see the results they achieve' as a
form of teaching them to fish...#CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan #TOTD
MT @aCMEstory: T3: Patient outcomes are a type of feedback. Structured chart
reviews can lead to behavior change and #QI. #CMEchat
CMEChat T4
– What are the best approaches of providing feedback in ‘asynchronous’
educational activities? Print? Online? Mobile? #CMEchat
brandeeplott Lots
of literature out there on how to better receive constructive criticism.
#cmechat
theCMEguy @brandeeplott
Cool idea, but gets pretty tricky w/ regards to feedback. It's a very public
forum... #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t4:
i love what @aCMEstory suggested about helping learners see their own mini-PDSA
cycles. Teaching them to truly 'learn' #CMEchat
dpguinee T3
- arriving way late...what about our 'learners' - do they want/expect a
learning experience?? Nevermind if
faculty can deliver.#cmechat
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
Yes, but not in group setting - privacy issues! #cmechat.
BrianSMcGowan BTW:
@theCMEguy is not doing nearly as well today as @aCMEstory! #CMEchat #Feedback
theCMEguy T4:
maybe not "best", but well structured posttest with immediate results
and links back to info in activity #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @dpguinee
- I mentioned something earlier about the culture of medical training...could
work for us, or against us with #feedback #CMEchat
brandeeplott @thecmeguy
Hmm,. if only there could be private Tweet groups! #cmechat
dpguinee T3/4
- had an attendee speak up one time - small event - "show me where I come
up short and I'll listen.." Local PI/QI data! #cmechat
giasison @BrianSMcGowan
@thecmeguy @acmestory Great sample for feedback—> positive at that
& live #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t4:
not traditional, but show learner X what other prior learners have done, seen,
reacted to the content. #Connectedlearning #CMEchat
aCMEstory @briansmcgowan
Hmmm. Can you think of another way to give that feedback more constructively?
#CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
You're just bitter that you fell for my April Fools joke #CMEchat #feedback
#truth
BrianSMcGowan ;-)
RT @aCMEstory: @briansmcgowan Hmmm. Can you think of another way to give that
feedback more constructively? #CMEchat
dpguinee T4
- in-program immed feedback (eg: how did peers answers) seems to keep
participants going through an entire on-demand activity #cmechat
brandeeplott Providing
post-activity summary of intent-to-change to all participants before next
activity? Just an idea. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t1-4:
not only is feedback critical to learning efficiently, but it is critical to
how well-received CME may be. #CMEChat #LEVELTWO
CMEChat Thanks
for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion
& not that of employers
theCMEguy @dpguinee
Like in-activity polling? Yes, agree. Good idea. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan As
we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this
week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!
CMEChat The
real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect & take
action on things you’ve learned!
brandeeplott @briansmcgowan
Weird, I just tweeted same thing without having read this. #cmechat #psychic
CMEChat The
complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at
t.co/EylNu0ipQF
dpguinee T4
Anyone dare do a 'check study' to verify readers for print enduring? Not a feedback mechanism...or could it
be?? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan Lets
all wish @meducate good luck at the Double A home opener he is attending up in
NYC. #letsgomess! #CMEchat ;-p
aCMEstory T1-4:
Feedback must come with support—ensure the learner understands how to apply
the feedback to current practices. #CMEchat #reflection
#CMEchat 68: Strategies for assessing & leveraging
motivation to learn
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/03/26/cmechat-68-strategies-for-assessing—leveraging-motivation-to-learn.aspx
#CMEchat 67: Rethinking the strategies to ‘cause’ behavior
change
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/03/18/cmechat-67-rethinking-the-strategies-to-cause-behavior-change-.aspx
#CMEchat 66: Extending Learning Over Time
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/03/11/cmechat-66-extending-learning-over-time.aspx
#CMEchat 65: Rethinking the strategies to extend learning and
reinforce behavior change (shortened)
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/03/04/cmechat-65-rethinking-the-strategies-to-extend-learning-and-reinforce-behavior-change.aspx
#CMEchat 64: What are the best models for disseminating new
clinical info? (Part 2)
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/02/25/cmechat-64-what-are-the-best-models-for-disseminating-new-clinical-info-part-2.aspx
#CMEchat 63: What are the best models for disseminating new
clinical info? (Part 1)
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/02/11/cmechat-63-what-are-the-best-models-for-disseminating-new-clinical-info-part-1.aspx
#CMEchat #62: Sharing lesson from #acehp13
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/02/04/cmechat-62-sharing-lesson-from-acehp13.aspx
#CMEchat 61: How do we ensure we effectively share/publish
our best practices?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/01/28/cmechat-61-how-do-we-ensure-we-effectively-sharepublish-our-best-practices.aspx
#CMEchat 60: Bending the forgetting curve, how do we sustain
knowledge gains in CME?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/01/23/cmechat-60-bending-the-forgetting-curve-how-do-we-sustain-knowledge-gains-in-cme-.aspx
#CMEchat 59: How does 'motivation' affect our educational
planning?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/01/14/cmechat-59-how-does-motivation-affect-our-educational-planning.aspx
#CMEchat 58: Overcoming Our Overreliance on the Post-Test
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/01/07/cmechat-58-overcoming-our-overreliance-on-the-post-test.aspx
#CMEchat 57: How Do Learners Prepare for Major Medical
Meetings?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/12/19/cmechat-57-how-do-learners-prepare-for-major-medical-meetings.aspx
#CMEchat 56: Tackling Olson's Predictions for the Future of
CPD - Part IV
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/12/03/cmechat-56-tackling-olsons-predictions-for-the-future-of-cpd—-part-iv.aspx
#CMEchat 55: Tackling Olson's Predictions for the Future of
CPD - Part III
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/11/26/cmechat-55-tackling-olsons-predictions-for-the-future-of-cpd—-part-iii.aspx
#CMEchat 54: Tackling Olson's Predictions for the Future of
CPD - Part II
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/11/19/cmechat-54-tackling-olsons-predictions-for-the-future-of-cpd—-part-ii.aspx
#CMEchat 53: Tackling Olson's Predictions for the Future of
CPD
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/11/12/cmechat-53-tackling-olsons-predictions-for-the-future-of-cpd.aspx
#CMEchat 52 - Does CME work?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/04/12/cmechat-52—-does-cme-work.aspx
#CMEchat 51 - Exploring Gender in CME and Medical Education
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/04/07/cmechat-51—-exploring-gender-in-cme-and-medical-education.aspx
#CMEchat 50 - Ask Your Most Pressing Questions
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/03/28/cmechat-50—-ask-your-most-pressing-questions-part-2.aspx
#CMEchat 49: Ask your most pressing questions
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/03/21/cmechat-49-ask-your-most-pressing-questions.aspx
CMEchat #48: How do Docs use social media to answer their
questions in practice
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/03/14/cmechat-48-how-do-docs-use-social-media-to-answer-their-questions-in-practice.aspx
#CMEchat 47 - Practical tips for managing post-tests &
summative assessment
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/03/07/cmechat-practical-tips-for-managing-post-tests—summative-assessment.aspx
#CMEchat 46 - Interprofessional Education in Healthcare
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/02/29/cmechat-46—-interprofessional-education-in-healthcare.aspx
#CMEchat 45 - On assessments - needs, formative, and
summative
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/02/22/cmechat-45—-on-assessments—-needs-formative-and-summative.aspx
#CMEchat 44 - On Mentoring, Coaching, and Teaching Teachers
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/02/16/cmechat-44—-on-mentoring-coaching-and-teaching-teachers.aspx
#CMEchat 43 - The role of feedback in CME
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/02/09/cmechat—-the-role-of-feedback-in-cme.aspx
#CMEchat 42 - Technologies that we use to increase
productivity
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/02/01/cmechat-42—-technologies-that-we-use-to-increase-productivity.aspx
#CMEchat 41 - lessons from #acehp12
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/01/25/cmechat-41—-lessons-from-acehp12.aspx
#CMEchat 40 - Preparing for the Annual Alliance Meeting
#acehp12
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/01/18/cmechat-40—-preparing-for-the-annual-alliance-meeting-acehp12.aspx
#CMEchat 39: Educate program credibility - from needs
assessment, to faculty, to content, to action
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/01/11/cmechat-39-educate-program-credibility—-from-needs-assessment-to-faculty-to-content-to-action.aspx
#CMEchat 38 - Credibility, content/context, and control in
online CME
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/01/04/cmechat—-credibility-contentcontext-and-control-in-online-cme.aspx
#CMEchat 37: Science behind knowledge retention/translation.
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/12/21/cmechat-37-science-behind-knowledge-retentiontranslation-.aspx
#CMEchat 36: Virtual environments, congresses, & distance
learning
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/12/14/cmechat-36-virtual-environments-congresses—distance-learning.aspx
#CMEchat 35: Re-engineering the Data Stream
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/12/07/cmechat-35-re-engineering-the-data-stream.aspx
#CMEchat 34: What's good, what can be improved, what to talk
about in 2012?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/12/03/cmechat34-whats-good-what-can-be-improved-what-to-talk-about-in-2012.aspx
#CMEchat 33: Global Collaboration and Quality-driven
Education
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/11/17/cmechat-33—-global-collaboration-and-quality-driven-education.aspx
#CMEchat 32: What skills are needed for (virtual) social
learning?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/11/09/cmechat-32—-what-skills-are-needed-for-virtual-social-learning.aspx
#CMEchat 31: State of CME or "Crystal Ball
Gazing"
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/11/02/cmechat-31—-state-of-cme-or-crystal-ball-gazing.aspx
#CMEchat 30: Behavior Change: Where Does CME fit?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/10/26/cmechat-30-behavior-change-where-does-cme-fit.aspx
#CMEchat 29: Exploring non-traditional and serendipitous
outcomes
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/10/19/cmechat-29-exploring-non-traditional-and-serendipitous-outcomes.aspx
#CMEchat 28: The use of technology in the CME community
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/10/16/cmechat-28—the-use-of-technology-in-the-cme-community.aspx
#CMEchat 27: How do we encourage practice and feedback
loops in CME?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/10/05/cmechat-27—-best-practices-in-feedback.aspx
#CMEchat 26: Assessing what we know about assessment...
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/09/29/cmechat-26—-assessing-what-we-know-about-assessment.aspx
#CMEchat 25: Publication planning for the CME profession
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/09/21/cmechat—25-publication-planning-for-the-cme-profession.aspx
#CMEchat 24: How much do we know about linking learning
objectives to assessment models?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/09/14/cmechat-24-how-much-do-we-know-about-linking-learning-objectives-to-assessment-models.aspx
#CMEchat 23: Exploring the value and utility of a
tweetchat for learning
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/09/07/exploring-the-value-and-utility-of-a-tweetchat-for-learning—-cmechat.aspx
#CMEchat 22: Can we make live meetings better?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/08/31/can-we-make-live-meetings-better.aspx
#CMEchat 21: Beyond Formal Learning: Search and Informal
Learning in Medicine
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/08/28/beyond-formal-learning-search-and-decision-support-tools.aspx
#CMEchat 20: CME Faculty: Content Experts or Teaching
Excellence
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/08/17/cme-faculty-content-experts-or-teaching-excellence.aspx
#CMEchat 19: Practical Pitfall of Outcomes Fatigue
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/08/10/practical-pitfall-of-outcomes-fatigue.aspx
#CMEchat 18: Is education needed, if it already exists?
#CMEchat
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/08/03/is-educational-needed-if-it-already-exists.aspx
#CMEchat 17: Rapid learning healthcare models and
the CME profession
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/07/27/cmechat—-rapid-learning-healthcare-models-and-the-cme-profession.aspx
#CMEchat 16: Blended Learning and Learning Styles in
Medical Education: Hype or Hope
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/07/20/blended-learning-and-learning-styles-hype-or-hope.aspx
#CMEchat 15: How can we improve online learning?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/07/17/how-can-we-improve-online-learning.aspx
#CMEchat 14: How can we improve live, 'situated'
learning'?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/07/06/how-can-we-improve-live-situated-learning.aspx
#CMEchat 13: What happens to new data after a medical
meeting?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/07/04/what-happens-to-new-data-after-a-medical-meeting.aspx
#CMEchat 12: How to endure learning.
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/06/22/cmechat—-summer-time-learning.aspx
#CMEchat 11: Knowledge Translation & Decision Support
Tools
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/06/19/cmechat—-knowledge-translation—decision-support-tools.aspx
#CMEchat 10: Technology and education lessons
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/06/11/cmechat-week-ten—-archive.aspx
#CMEchat 9: CME vs CPD and the Future
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/06/01/cmechat-week-nine—-cme-vs-cpd-and-the-future.aspx
#CMEchat 8: All
about social learning
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/05/25/cmechat-week-8—-all-about-social-learning.aspx
#CMEchat 7: How do you assess whether HCPs really ‘need’
education?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/05/18/cmechat-lucky-number-seven.aspx
#CMEchat 6: Has the definition of CME changed
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/05/13/cmechat-week-six—-guest-host-meducate.aspx
#CMEchat 5: Social and informal learning in the medical
profession
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/05/04/cmechat-week-5.aspx
#CMEchat 4: How/Where do you begin your educational
planning
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/04/27/archive-from-cmechat-today.aspx
#CMEchat 3: The impact of format/design on the
value/impact of a CME activity
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/04/23/another-great-cmechat.aspx
#CMEchat 2: Social Media (SoMe) in CME
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/04/13/great-discussion-at-our-2nd-cmechat.aspx
#CMEchat 1: Ice Breaker/Introduction Topics: Favorite
learning principle and CME Hall of Fame Inductions
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/04/07/inaugural-cmechat-was-a-great-success.aspx