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#ACCMEchat - ACCME Simplification and Evolution Webinar

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theCMEguy        Anyone up for #ACCMEchat during the webinar this afternoon? 

brandeeplott     @thecmeguy Maybe me. I'll be listening. #ACCMEchat #CMEchat

theCMEguy        I'm planning to tweet today's ACCME webinar using the #ACCMEchat hashtag t.co/vh5gC0oAYL Hope other #CMEchat -ers join in!

theCMEguy        Unless of course, the ACCME or anyone else has a better hashtag to use #CMEchat #ACCMEchat

vivacityconsult  @theCMEguy #ACCMEchat I'm up for it. Tminus 9 minutes. Better re-read the proposed changes!

theCMEguy        I can't seem to get on it...RT @vivacityconsult: @theCMEguy #ACCMEchat I'm up for it. Tminus 9 minutes. Better re-read the proposed changes!

theCMEguy        Well, I have audio, but no video. I'll give it a shot #accmechat

vivacityconsult  Murray Kopelow says trying to increase alignment with all elements of physicians' regulatory requirements #accmechat

vivacityconsult  Important - nothing is changing today in ACCME requirements #accmechat

theCMEguy        Kopelow: Communication channels are open. No changes will happen today. Discussion first, changes later #accmechat

brandeeplott     Anyone else a surveyor? #accmechat

elearningCME    Kopelow: Nothing is changing...today #accmechat

vivacityconsult  ACCME was told by over 1000 cme stakeholders that they did not clearly communicate their expectations  #accmechat

theCMEguy        Kopelow: feedback is that the requirements are not clear. Want changes, but not lowering the bar of standards #accmechat

theCMEguy        Kopelow: Feedback showed providers want to maintain the 3-step process for reaccreditation #accmechat

elearningCME    Kopelow: Retaining 3-part process (self study, doc review, and Interview) #accmechat

brandeeplott     Wonder what the timeline for all this is. #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: How do we know providers are doing what we ask? Through verification of documentation

elearningCME    Kopelow: Feedback was to retain verification by documentation but that the requirements were onerous. #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: Providers want a criterion based process for AwithC, not a return to "system of old days"

brandeeplott     Menu of items for commendation #accmechat

vivacityconsult  ACCME providers wanted a clear understanding of commendation but many thought there might be options/menu #accmechat

elearningCME    Kopelow: Evolving commendation so that a menu of options will be considered supporting verification. #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: Providers like templates and rely on the ACCME for them

brandeeplott     Credit system should be aligned #accmechat

vivacityconsult  ACCME was asked to address regulatory alignment (this is a big one for me!) looking forward to hearing more on this soon #accmechat

brandeeplott     If leadership engaged, full value of CME realized. #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: removing requirement of some elements from mission statement since no longer relevant due to changes in def of Comm Int

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: EM's, web activity, journals: propose dropping some of front matter info that is less valuable. Me: Yay!

brandeeplott     Logos no longer to be used in educational materials. #accmechat

elearningCME    No more corporate logos. #accmechat

MAGCME            Like what I hear from Dr. Kopelow so far. #ACCMEchat

meducate           #accmechat So goes the logos. Recommend not using logos on educational materials

brandeeplott     Corporate logos for commercial supporters, that is. #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: SCS change: no use of CI logo in educational material, disclosures, acknowledgment of commercial support

SeanTSaunders Dbl yay! RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat EM's, web activity, journals: propose dropping some of front matter info that is less valuable. Me: Yay!

elearningCME    Adios Criteria #4 - redundant with #2 #accmechat

MAGCME            About time that it was proposed to drop C4. #ACCMEchat

brandeeplott     As a surveyor, AMEN to that. #accmechat

meducate           #accmechat Recommend removing C4 because it overlaps with C2 - need to insure that the combined criterion is inclusive

improvecme      #Accmechat What effect will these changes have on the fees charged by the accme?

theCMEguy        From Redundancy Department of Redundancy RT @elearningCME: Adios Criteria #4 - redundant with #2 #accmechat

vivacityconsult  ACCME proposing to drop first 4 parts of the Mission Statement #accmechat

MAGCME            Mission statement changes - just focus on expected results. That is what the accred system cares about. #ACCMEchat

meducate           #accmechat Expected results is what we care about - modify C1 accordingly

elearningCME    Adios C14 and C15...also C12/13 to be combined. #accmechat

brandeeplott     Interestingly, many providers still do not understand the difference between competence, performance, and PO. #accmechat

elearningCME    C1 to focus on expected results #accmechat

meducate           I like this one a lot RT @elearningCME: Adios C14 and C15...also C12/13 to be combined. #accmechat

brandeeplott     @improvecme They said their goal is to make it less expensive. How? No clue. #accmechat

vivacityconsult  ACCME proposing to dropping the last 3 criteria - Kopelow says the Circle Planning would be "merging this into a single unit" #accmechat

MAGCME            C14 and C15 would be eliminated. C12/13 to be combined. I like this. #ACCMEchat

brandeeplott     Target is 100% providers w/ commendation. #accmechat

vivacityconsult  RT @brandeeplott: Interestingly, many providers still do not understand the difference between competence, performance, and PO. #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: Goal is to 100% of providers with Accreditation with Commendation. Currently at 30%.

meducate           #accmechat ACCME wants 100% of providers achieving accreditation with commendation

vivacityconsult  @brandeeplott It's as I thought at first glance - these changes may be simplified but they are not SIMPLE. #accmechat

meducate           35% RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Kopelow: Goal is to 100% of providers with Accreditation with Commendation. Currently at 30%.

elearningCME    C16, C18, and C22 not contributing to identification of commendable orgs...so...adios. #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Me: Does A with C lose it's oomph if 100% of providers have it?

brandeeplott     But if any provider can get commendation, how will best providers be set apart? #accmechat

meducate           It becomes baseline and have to set bar higher RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Me: Does A with C lose it's oomph if 100% of providers have it?

brandeeplott     @thecmeguy Had same thought! #accmechat

vivacityconsult  @brandeeplott @improvecme I thought they meant staff time & effort when they said they want to reduce "cost" - not lowering fees #accmechat

SeanTSaunders I asked myself that same question RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Me: Does A with C lose it's oomph if 100% of providers have it?

elearningCME    Menu for commendation may include: Integrating HIT, Individualized Learning, Interprof. Practice...plus others to be defined #accmechat

theCMEguy        @meducate Accreditation with Super Duper Commendation? :-) #ACCMEchat

brandeeplott     @vivacityconsult Probably right.#accmechat

BrianSMcGowan              Just tuning into the #ACCMEchat - webinar from the #ACCME...sorry to miss the first 25 mins.

elearningCME    Proposed structured abstract form replaces performance-in-practice labels #accmechat

StMarysCME      Goodbye labels! #accmechat

vivacityconsult  ACCME possibly providing a template for the activity files? Not sure I like this #accmechat

BrianSMcGowan              impressed. RT @thecmeguy: Kopelow: Communication channels are open. No changes will happen today. Discussion first, changes later #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: changes to PinP files. More descriptive and attachments. Less labeling. Me like.

meducate           A with Distinction RT @theCMEguy: @meducate Accreditation with Super Duper Commendation? :-) #ACCMEchat

brandeeplott     This will be so helpful to surveyors. #accmechat

BrianSMcGowan              have they made any suggestions about this? RT @brandeeplott: Wonder what the timeline for all this is. #accmechat

BrianSMcGowan              New dawn for the ACCME? #fingerscrossed RT @magcme: Like what I hear from Dr. Kopelow so far. #ACCMEchat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: leaves us with a "simpler set" that does not lower the bar or standards

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan Not yet #accmechat.

elearningCME    Kopelow: Not lowering the bar, but supporting development of a "simpler set" of documentation #accmechat

MAGCME            I like the proposed changes to performance in practice files. Abstract form is good. #ACCMEchat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat I am enjoying this focus by the ACCME on simplification. Very much needed.

BrianSMcGowan              Does #CCMEP lose value if....#OhNevermind RT @thecmeguy: #ACCMEchat Me: Does A with C lose it's oomph if 100% of providers have it?

improvecme      #accmechat If there is less time involved for accme to administer reviews, shouldn't the fee be reduced?

brandeeplott     Like the part about integrating #healthIT #accmechat

meducate           #accmechat I like the idea of a menu of options for accreditation with commendation

vivacityconsult  @elearningCME If so, that seems to be ok. But if it means filling out more forms or creating new documentation, then blech. #accmechat

theCMEguy        Agreed. Allows for some individuality RT @meducate: #accmechat I like the idea of a menu of options for accreditation with commendation

elearningCME    C1, C2, C3, C5, C6, C7-10, C11, C12/13, C17, C19, C20, C21...my quick count of what remains #accmechat

BrianSMcGowan              .@improvecme - has fee for review always been based on cost of review, or some market-sensitive dues-like model? #ACCMEchat

brandeeplott     No labels great. Providers don't label things correctly anyway. #accmechat

meducate           Me too.  Might be difficult for some provider types RT @brandeeplott: Like the part about integrating #healthIT #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: ACCME BOD very interested in hearing provider feedback

vivacityconsult  @theCMEguy @meducate Absolutely agree. Med ed company can do great things, as can small hospital. But not the same great things. #accmechat

elearningCME    @meducate Yes - and would like to see a system where innovation can be rewarded by proposal and recog. of new menu items #accmechat

StMarysCME      Encouraging.  RT @elearningcme: Kopelow: Not lowering the bar, but supporting development of a "simpler set" of documentation #accmechat

improvecme      #accmechat New approach to AC a very welcome change. Recognizes diversity of providers. Nice flexibility.

brandeeplott     I hope every surveyor comments. #accmechat

meducate           As long as we can find the info! RT @brandeeplott: No labels great. Providers don't label things correctly anyway. #accmechat

MAGCME            RT @elearningCME: C1, C2, C3, C5, C6, C7-10, C11, C12/13, C17, C19, C20, C21...my quick count of what remains #accmechat

elearningCME    Next step: informal feedback, ACCME BOD review, then formal call for comment, then BOD decides...so nothing for 8 years or so #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: There will be a formal Call-for-comment before any final decisions are made

vivacityconsult  ACCME timeline 4 implementation - July 2nd feedback requested via online survey,Then another series of steps. Nothing changes now #accmechat

SeanTSaunders I especially like that myself RT @meducate: #accmechat I like the idea of a menu of options for accreditation with commendation

StMarysCME      What is the timeline on development of changes like this? #ACCMEchat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat RT @BrianSMcGowan: ACCME survey on the "Simplification and Evolution" proposal is live - t.co/zyE5Q5evmG #CMEchat

vivacityconsult  Provide your feedback here: t.co/vCzHMhSnh6 #accmechat

BrianSMcGowan              ACCME survey on the "Simplification and Evolution" proposal is live - #ACCMEchat - t.co/I2HsC9GrDw #CMEchat

elearningCME    Did I say 8 years? I meant 12 #accmechat #sarcasm So no real timeline at the present

brandeeplott     @seantsaunders @meducate maybe even a subcategorize (sp?) commedation? #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Q: has ACCME sought input from any other accrediting partners (ACPE, ANCC). A: Yes, to partners; No, to Alliance, Sacme, etc

brandeeplott     Wonder why they didn't add anything pertaining to interdisciplinary. #accmechat

BrianSMcGowan              Not sure there is a good way to answer the question - feedback from individuals is easier than feedback from organizations. #ACCMEchat

theCMEguy        @brandeeplott There is in the new A with C, I think... #ACCMEchat

ArdgillanGroup Nice clear presentation on proposed changes to accreditation #ACCMEchat some encouraging changes proposed

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: Comment from audience, "This might save the world of CME..." Wow. #notsureaboutthat

BrianSMcGowan              "This might save the world of CME for a lot of people...thanks for trying to hear us..." - not a question, but nice! #ACCMEchat

vivacityconsult  ACCME webinar: Not sure post-webinar questions are useful until Diane Durham asked about timeline. #accmechat

brandeeplott     Apr 2014? Really? #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Kopelow: Timeline: Initial comments: due July 2. BOD meets July 11. End of official call for comment in April 2014...

elearningCME    Kopelow: BOD meeting in July, then again in the fall. Call for comment would be April 2014 at soonest #accmechat

vivacityconsult  @brandeeplott I think they did in the new Commendation criteria options ... ??  #readitquickly #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat ...dual systems of implementation for a time when it does actually happen. No easy answer.

StMarysCME      Timeline- July 2 Feedback due, Board meets Fall '13, Plan developed/approved.  Apr. '14, Call for Comment, If accepted. . .#accmechat

brandeeplott     Wonder how many providers that dropped their accreditation wouldn't have if they'd known. #accmechat

ArdgillanGroup April 2014 to end of call for comments seems unnecessarily  extended?#ACCMEchat.

BrianSMcGowan              My hand is down - #preemptive #ACCMEchat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Lots of questions on Twitter... #hinthint

BrianSMcGowan              Great question! RT @brandeeplott: Wonder how many providers that dropped their accreditation wouldn't have if they'd known. #accmechat

elearningCME    Q&A session now going off the tracks #greenarrows #redarrows #accmechat

meducate           Good man RT @BrianSMcGowan: My hand is down - #preemptive #ACCMEchat

theCMEguy        I blame Obama RT @elearningCME: Q&A session now going off the tracks #greenarrows #redarrows #accmechat

beth333SP          I hope that AwC can be achieved thru meaningful partnerships between provider types. Example: MEC provider and HealthIT, please? #ACCMEchat

meducate           Raise your hand...RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Lots of questions on Twitter... #hinthint

YogAlicia3            RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Kopelow: Timeline: Initial comments: due July 2. BOD meets July 11. End of official call for comment in April 2014...

BrianSMcGowan              First time caller, long time listener. #ACCMEchat

theCMEguy        RT @meducate: Raise your hand...RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Lots of questions on Twitter... #hinthint t.co/QYo9ieZuIg

ArdgillanGroup @beth333SP looks like a possibility to me - IF changes come through and new menu is implemented #ACCMEchat a good move

meducate           #accmechat Anybody know that old Club Med song "Hands Up?"

SeanTSaunders Yes, pls! RT @beth333SP: hope AwC can be achieved thru meaningful partnerships btwn provider types. Ex: MEC & HealthIT, please? #ACCMEchat

beth333SP          @BrianSMcGowan @theCMEGuy @meducate @ArdgillanGroup How about a cocktail party in Blue Bell to discuss these changes? #ACCMEchat

elearningCME    BTW - the GTM green/red/up/down hand UI is horrible. It's non-intuitive and confusing. #sidecomment #accmechat #usabilitylesson

vivacityconsult  FYI, IMQ in CA will be polling their providers to submit one large blanket reply on changes. #accmechat

ArdgillanGroup Quite the virtual group hug ! #ACCMEchat

theCMEguy        Wow, an ACCME lovefest has broken out #ACCMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              "You have restored my faith...thank you..." - It should be known that ACCME is NOT screening the calls. #WithoutANet #ACCMEchat

elearningCME    Love fest for proposed changes continues "Thanks for listening to us!" Any good org is always inclusive, collab., and listening #accmechat

spelletier             Never thought I'd hear those words! RT @theCMEguy: Wow, an ACCME lovefest has broken out #ACCMEchat

vivacityconsult  @vivacityconsult @MAGCME MAG, will you be doing the same? #accmechat

theCMEguy        Nice RT @vivacityconsult: FYI, IMQ in CA will be polling their providers to submit one large blanket reply on changes. #accmechat

BrianSMcGowan              Have to ask, what is changed in the past year to lead to these changes? Community wanted this 5+ years ago, no? #ACCMEchat #longtimecoming

meducate           Or print! RT @spelletier: Never thought I'd hear those words! RT @theCMEguy: Wow, an ACCME lovefest has broken out #ACCMEchat

theCMEguy        Took that long to process RT @BrianSMcGowan: Community wanted this 5+ years ago, no? #ACCMEchat #longtimecoming

brandeeplott     Kopelow: 1 PPG can cover a whole meeting. #accmechat

elearningCME    Better question: why did they think going to the current rules and criteria was a good idea? @theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan #accmechat

BrianSMcGowan              Was the bar set so low by the ACCME - listening, servant leadership - that these changes are being received so well? #ACCMEchat #Nonetheless

vivacityconsult  Kopelow: continuous accreditation has been discussed but never looked at a 10 year accreditation period. #accmechat

theCMEguy        #ACCMEchat Q: Possibility of longer time of accreditation?. A: Have only looked at "continuous" accreditation.

SeanTSaunders Glad the ? was asked RT @theCMEguy: #ACCMEchat Q: Possibility of longer time of accred? A: Have only looked at "continuous" accreditation.

theCMEguy        uh oh...can someone pick-up my kids at school? #ACCMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              ...and Dr. K is willing to stick around for extra time to answer more questions? #ACCMEchat #Whatishappeninghere #OMG

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan It's because the feedback is good. #accmechat

vivacityconsult  #accmechat @theCMEguy Derek, thank you for initiating this tweet-fest. Go get those kids!

brandeeplott     @vivacityconsult @theCMEguy Yep, aswesome Derek. #accmechat

theCMEguy        @vivacityconsult meh, they can wait. It's not raining. DR KOPELOW HAS ME RIVETED! #ACCMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              Kopelow: "we r already interacting w/other Orgs w/i medicine to utilize CME as an essential element in HC improvement" #ACCMEchat #socialQI?

beth333SP          Applause for @theCMEguy (with your green or red hands) for initiating this tweet chat #ACCMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              "ACCME cld make a rule that CEO needs to be a member of your local CME committee..." #ACCMEchat >> not in the plans, but option for AwC...

vivacityconsult  ACCME webinar: getting commendation for being committed to CPD? Does #accmechat count?

spelletier             Is anyone archiving this? Be good to have #ACCMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              "Leadership is critical and an important element in connecting CME to the greater healthcare improvement" #ACCMEchat #socialQI

beth333SP          I nominate @theCMEguy... @spelletier: Is anyone archiving this? Be good to have #ACCMEchat

vivacityconsult  ACCME webinar: not sure I agree that organizations do better with physician leadership but DO need physician CME champions! #accmechat

spelletier             @beth333SP I second! @theCMEguy, you in? #ACCMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              Take away: if ACCME would've applied efforts & focus in the right place for the past decade, we'd be in a much better place! #ACCMEchat 1/2

vivacityconsult  Kopelow: these proposals remove some items but they LEAVE the most important parts. #accmechat

beth333SP          Aug Bridge to Accred workshop in Chicago still valuable, don't put it off if you plan to attend (and I'll see you there) #ACCMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              Take away: that being said...we must hold them accountable to serve & support the community w/ this level of openness! #ACCMEchat 2/2

#CMEchat 75: How might social learning transform medical education?

Another great CMEchat - this week proving that the number of attendees is not nearly as important as the engagement and participation of the community - thanks to those who joined, who shared, and hopefully, who learned!

The topics for this week were as follows:

There’s lots of buzz around ‘collective’ or ‘social’ learning, especially w/ new tech, but the idea is not all that new in #meded. #CMEchat

Today we explore ways to connect learners and infuse elements of social learning into our initiatives w/ or w/o technology #CMEChat

T1: To level set, what does social learning mean to you in #meded? What are the strengths and weaknesses of the various models #CMEchat

T2: What are the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities into small-group LIVE learning (< 50) #CMEchat

T3: What are the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities into large-group LIVE learning (> 50) #CMEchat

T4: What are the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities into traditionally isolated online leaning #CMEchat

You can review the archive of #CMEchat 75 below or download it HERE:

From User Tweet

BrianSMcGowan Join us in 3 HOURS for #CMEchat 75 - This week's theme: "How might social learning transform medical education" #meded

BrianSMcGowan Join us in 60 MINUTES for #CMEchat 75 - This week's theme: "How might social learning transform medical education" #meded

BrianSMcGowan Join us in 2 HOURS for #CMEchat 75 - This week's theme: "How might social learning transform medical education" #meded

MGHAcademy RT @briansmcgowan: Patient-centered care requires a patient-oriented workflow model t.co/4lh8pj3e0c #S4PM #meded #CMEchat #PCMH

rajdevmd RT @BrianSMcGowan: Physical activity counselling in sports medicine: a call to action. t.co/BVdJvFjYZd #meded #CMEChat &gt;&gt; Great call for #socialQI

elearningCME RT @JaneBozarth: Objections to social media: Here we go again. AKA: Bell invents the telephone. #CMEChat #ASTD2013 t.co/FKofEZJkUj

class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 12pt;">theCMEguy RT @elearningCME: RT @JaneBozarth: Objections to social media: Here we go again. AKA: Bell invents the telephone. #CMEChat #ASTD2013 t.co/FKofEZJkUj

class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 12pt;">BrianSMcGowan Join us in 15 MINUTES for #CMEchat 75 - This week's theme: "How might social learning transform medical education" #meded

BrianSMcGowan Simulation 2.0: A Test Lab for Health Care Transformation t.co/ZVFyGblX2U #meded #CMEchat

CMEChat Welcome to #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of current, past, or future employers.

CMEChat As we get started, please introduce yourself: Location? Focus? Favorite topics? What brings you here today? #CMEchat

CMEChat A new question will be asked every 8-10 min or so. If you can, please include “T#...” in related responses. #CMEchat

CMEChat Please remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the participants can follow the #CMEchat discussion

CMEChat Topics will guide the discussion, but real learning &amp; teaching lies in your tweets - please engage. #CMEchat

CMEChat The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived at t.co/iQhIRipKmr shortly after the session has ended.

BrianSMcGowan Good morning #CMEchat-ters...hope everyone had a great weekend! Brian here moderating this week's discussion!

BrianSMcGowan lets give folks a few extra minutes to gather....#CMEchat

theCMEguy Derek in warm and humid Chestnut Hill #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy hey D. Hope all is well....#CMEChat

beth333SP Beth Brillinger, Accred Dir from CME Outfitters, checking in from Blue Bell, PA. Ready to learn. #CMEChat

elearningCME Scott in Chicago #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan @beth333SP - and hi to you too! #CMEchat

aCMEstory Good morning. Greselda here from DC metro region/technology corridor. Ready to learn and #CMEchat.

CMEChat There’s lots of buzz around ‘collective’ or ‘social’ learning, especially w/ new tech, but the idea is not all that new in #meded. #CMEchat

theCMEguy Yo. 11 AM and all is well. RT @BrianSMcGowan: @theCMEguy hey D. Hope all is well....#CMEChat

beth333SP Hello my friend! @BrianSMcGowan: @beth333SP - and hi to you too! #CMEchat

CMEChat Today we explore ways to connect learners and infuse elements of social learning into our initiatives w/ or w/o technology #CMEChat

BrianSMcGowan G'morning to @elearningCME and @aCMEstory story! #CMEchat

CMEChat T1: To level set, what does social learning mean to you in #meded? What are the strengths and weaknesses of the various models #CMEchat

aCMEstory Wiki definition of social learning includes the intended product of the learning actions. t.co/KB72r1Yhab #SocialQI #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan t1: To me, social learning is the direct or indirect use of others to shape my learning. Others referring to learners vs 'faculty' #CMEChat

BrianSMcGowan t1: sometime soclai learning means explicitly interacting...others times it is about comfort and security in 'not knowing together' #CMEchat

beth333SP T1 SoLe to me means incorporating as many new ways to bring in others to the learning process through new fangled shiny things. #CMEChat

theCMEguy #CMEchat #meow RT @theCMEguy: T1: Learning with others. Weakness: You're only as smart as those around you. #CMEcat

aCMEstory T1: For me, it's taking an isolated or individualized learning experience and filtering it through a broader network. #CMEchat

elearningCME T1: Learning from everyone, focus away from traditional experts, and more on peers around us #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan T1: sometimes SoLe is planned and intentional (ask a Q), other times it is covert and serendipitous (looking around the room) #CMEchat

beth333SP T1 weakness - getting others to get involved and play along #CMEChat

theCMEguy @beth333SP #CMEcat likes bright shiny things... #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan T1: weakness: filter bubbles often give false sense of broad perspective...#CMEchat

aCMEstory T1: Pros-Broadeer perspective, deeper understanding through connection | Cons-Hard to determine quality of crowdsourced information #CMEchat

theCMEguy @elearningCME You can still have social learning w/ a facilitator/faculty though, no? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan T1: Weakness: SoLe may mislead you if others are pretending to be expert/ know more. Or have poorly self-assessed! #CMEchat

theCMEguy +1 MT @BrianSMcGowan: T1: Weakness: SoLe may mislead if others pretending to be expert/ know more. Or have poorly self-assessed! #CMEchat

beth333SP There ia a #CMEcat? meow @theCMEguy: @beth333SP #CMEcat likes bright shiny things... #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan T1: there is also the 'derivative' benefit - you may get a sense of what is important by watching others engagement. #CMEchat #misleading?

aCMEstory T1: Individual leaner still must extract value and relevance of info and that requires a new skill set. #CMEchat

elearningCME @theCMEguy Sure thing - SoLe is inclusive, not exclusive to "the only person I can learn from or can lead my learning is..." #cmechat

theCMEguy T1: Weakness: Depending on the setting, #SoLe can be dominated by extroverts in the group... #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan t1: social learning may very well be critical in moving from knowledge to actions...few practice changes are isolated events! #CMEchat

theCMEguy Like MT @elearningCME: SoLe is inclusive, not exclusive to "the only person I can learn from or can lead my learning is..." #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan Lots of great suggestions for T1 - so we should have a good sense of what SoLe means to those participating....ready for T2? #CMEchat

theCMEguy @beth333SP There is when I forget to type the "h" in #CMEchat

aCMEstory MT @thecmeguy: T1: Weakness: Depending on the setting, #SoLe can be dominated by extroverts in the group... #CMEchat &lt;Like all of us!&gt;

beth333SP T1 I feel that SoMe and SoLe communications are a piece of the puzzle. I have a need to seek info elsewhere and confirm for myself. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan "here is #CMEdog #CMEchat

 http://t.co/PS2AG925rv"

elearningCME T1: SoLe can also be more work: as a learner you need to evaluate the ideas around you and value judge their efficacy and relevance #cmechat

CMEChat T2: What are the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities into small-group LIVE learning (&lt; 50) #CMEchat

beth333SP "He looks like he could take #CMEcat @BrianSMcGowan: here is #CMEdog #CMEchat  http://t.co/aPe98tLWTN"

CMEChat T2: I acknoledge there is alot of SoLe already baked into live mtgs of any size, but how can we make it "just a little bit better" #CMEchat

theCMEguy T2: Live tweeting a meeting/conference with designated hashtag #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan T2: room setting could be used to 'force' learners to engage...to watch...to connect...to share. (or it could prevent this!) #CMEchat

elearningCME T2: Encourage blogging from participants, and help gather a place where those blogs (and other SoMe re: tweets) can be shared #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy - true, but for me, the smaller the live meeting...the more engaging the room, the less critical I find SoMe #CMEchat #engaged

BrianSMcGowan t2: with &lt; 50 there should be an opportunity to make meaningful connections - learners can find like-minded #LearnersLikeMe #CMEchat

theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan I guess depends on meeting and role of faculty. If poor facilitator, SoMe becomes more valuable to SoLe experience #CMEchat

aCMEstory T2: There may be limited experience, perspectives in small group. Engage/prep in advance to optimize #SoLe experience. #CMEchat

beth333SP T2 hashtag yes, but sometimes as the education provider tweeting the live meeting hashtag, feels a bit like, "Beuller,...Bueller.." #CMEchat

elearningCME @BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy but it can help you bring in perspectives and ideas from outside the room #cmechat #tweeting

BrianSMcGowan @elearningCME @theCMEguy - no doubt about that...#CMEchat

theCMEguy "RT @beth333SP: He looks like he could take #CMEcat @BrianSMcGowan: here is #CMEdog #CMEchat

 http://t.co/gUx4JBgoJ4

t.co/gdKyqmouj5"

class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 12pt;">BrianSMcGowan T2:  the key to me is that learners get to know one another. #CMEchat #NotAlwaysPossible

aCMEstory T2: Make sure learners understand purpose, relevance of #SoLe to learning experience and use #SoMe post-activity to reinforce. #CMEchat

theCMEguy @beth333SP Yes, that would be one of the weaknesses. Have had both positive and...less positive experiences with it #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan T2: critical differentiation b/w in house meeting and general access #meded. #Everybodyknowsyourname #CMEchat

CMEChat T3: What are the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities into large-group LIVE learning (&gt; 50) #CMEchat

beth333SP +1 @aCMEstory: T2: Make sure learners und purpose, relev of #SoLe to learning experience and use #SoMe post-activity to reinforce. #CMEchat

elearningCME T2: Barrier to me is that as an educator, the learning becomes more out of your control...more variability, harder to predict #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan T3: Have titles and institutions available to all attendees  even if blinded for security - so learners know who is in the room #CMEchat

theCMEguy @elearningCME Have you done this? Did you actually get participants to blog? That's fantastic! #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan T3: the barrier in large live meetings is the "noise" of SoLe both figurative and literal - need control of room, if not content. #CMEchat

theCMEguy T3: Build in coffee breaks so learners have a chance to meet/engage with those around them. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan T3: ...but structure the coffee breaks so learners have something to do...not everyone wants 30 minutes to 'network'' #CMEchat #options

aCMEstory T3: Facilitate pre-learning self-assessment of current practice and readiness for change and share data with group in live setting. #CMEchat

elearningCME @BrianSMcGowan T3 - YES - as a planner and educator it is all about creating opportunities for the SoLe to happen...#dontforce it #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan t3: historically we've heard how important the hallways conversations are, but no one has EVER studied why #SoLe #CMEchat #networking?

BrianSMcGowan @elearningCME #AllowIt #CMEchat...maybe even #nudgeIt...

theCMEguy #guilty Right. Should have emphasized SHORT breaks RT @BrianSMcGowan: T3...not everyone wants 30 minutes to 'network'' #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory - I love the idea that participants should come to the meeting with 3-5 questions they want answered. #PrimethePump #CMEchat

CMEChat T4: What r the best practices and/or barriers to bringing social learning opportunities into traditionally isolated ONLINE learning #CMEchat

elearningCME T3-Flipped conference - 30 minute sessions...60-90 minute "coffee breaks" and networking...#wonderwhatwouldhappen #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan @elearningCME - IMO, the room would empty and people (the unmotivated) would go back to checking email or worse. #needsturcture #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan T4: what about 'social reading' where you can see the crowdsourced notes or highlights of those who came before you? #CMEchat #kindle #nook

theCMEguy T4: Moderated comments section #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan T4: another way to infuse SoLe into online learning is to show collective results for poll or survey questions. #notperfect #CMEchat

aCMEstory @briansmcgowan Love the idea of a "curated" reading list from my peers. #CMEchat

elearningCME Or IF effective MT @BrianSMcGowan: t3: we've heard how important the hallways conversations are, but no one has ever studied WHY #cmechat

beth333SP T4 Share the #primethepump pre questions, "this is what you told us you wanted" "Do you agree? Want more? Different?" #CMEChat

BrianSMcGowan @aCMEstory... Here is my shared reading list! #cmechat t.co/iFoupFKuJK

class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 12pt;">BrianSMcGowan T4: who much do you need to know about other learners b4 you'd trust their experiences/reactions? #CMEchat

elearningCME Great question RT @BrianSMcGowan: T4: who much do you need to know about other learners b4 you'd trust their experiences/reactions? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan #TOTD RT @beth333SP: T4 Share the #primethepump pre Q's, "this is what u told us you wanted" "Do you agree? Want more? Different?" #CMEChat

beth333SP I just don't @BrianSMcGowan: T4: who much do you need to know about other learners b4 you'd trust their experiences/reactions? #CMEchat

theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan Agreed. Also not a bad idea to plant a few responses to show what is expected and move things along #CMEchat

aCMEstory T4: Data from your own peer networks can motivate change and facilitate offline discussion. #CMEchat #worksinreverse

BrianSMcGowan @beth333SP - very interesting...do tell more! #CMEchat

elearningCME For MDs: important @BrianSMcGowan: T4: who much do you need to know about other learners b4 you'd trust their experiences/reaction? #CMEchat

CMEChat Just a reminder...no #CMEchat next week as we should all be celebrating the Holiday w/ friends &amp; loved one. #hotdogs #coleslaw

beth333SP Not that int, I just need to seek my own backup info. Respect opinions but create my own @BrianSMcGowan very interesting tell more! #CMEchat

CMEChat Thanks for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of employers

aCMEstory @briansmcgowan It's like anything else. You need to get your data from a variety of sources and filter, filter, filter.... #CMEchat

CMEChat As we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!

CMEChat The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect &amp; take action on things you’ve learned!

CMEChat The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at t.co/iQhIRipKmr

class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 12pt;">elearningCME #TOTD RT @aCMEstory: @briansmcgowan It's like anything else. You need to get your data from a variety of sources and filter, filter #CMEchat

aCMEstory @thecmeguy Looks like #CMEchat finally got our mascot.



#CMEchat 74: Models for more “self-directed” learning

Another wonderful example of crowdsourcing practical advice and experience within medical education. This week we took a deep dive into "self-directed" learning and how we, as a community of educators, can continually strive to make all of our educational programs just a little bit more efficient by supporting the personal journeys and practical relevance for our learners.

Our topics for this week were as follows:

  • “Self-direction’ is broadly considered a fundamental adult learning principle, today we will explore models for “self-directed” learning. #CMEchat
  • In each case study we are looking for suggestions that allow learners to more actively guide their learning within some defined format #CMEchat
  • T1: To ensure that we are clear: What does self-directed learning mean to you? What does it look like? #CMEchat
  • T2: What are your best practices in supporting ‘self-directed learning’ w/i live, SMALL group learning (<50) #CMEchat
  • T3: What are your best practices in supporting ‘self-directed learning’ w/i live, LARGE group learning (>50) #CMEchat
  • T4: What r your best practices in supporting ‘self-directed learning’ w/i traditional ENDURING online education (webcast/slidecast) #CMEchat

The complete archive can be reviewed below or downloaded HERE:

From User           Tweet

BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 3 HOURS for #CMEchat 74 - This week we will explore models for “Self-direction” learning in #meded

BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 2 HOURS for #CMEchat 74 - This week we will explore models for “Self-direction” learning in #meded

BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 60 minutes for #CMEchat 74 - This week we will explore models for “Self-direction” learning in #meded

philtalamo           RT @BrianSMcGowan: Join us in 60 minutes for #CMEchat 74 - This week we will explore models for “Self-direction” learning in #meded

CMEChat             Join us in 15 minutes for #CMEchat 74 - This week we will explore models for “Self-direction”  learning in #meded

HaleyMarie3      RT @CMEChat: Join us in 15 minutes for #CMEchat 74 - This week we will explore models for “Self-direction” learning in #meded #cmechat

CMEChat             Welcome to #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion  & not that of current, past, or future employers.

CMEChat             As we get started, please introduce yourself: Location? Focus? Favorite topics? What brings you here today? #CMEchat

CMEChat             A new question will be asked every 8-10 min or so. If you can, please include “T#” in related responses. #CMEchat

CMEChat             Please remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the participants can follow the #CMEchat discussion

CMEChat             Topics will guide the discussion, but real learning &amp; teaching lies in your tweets - please engage. #CMEchat

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived at t.co/EylNu0ipQF shortly after the session has ended.

BrianSMcGowan              Good Monday to the #CMEchat-ters everywhere! Hope all is well.  Brian here moderating this week...should be a great theme!

BrianSMcGowan              We will give some time for folks to arrive...in the meantime, I hope everyone had a wonderful Mother's Day with their loved ones. #CMEchat

mathena123       Afternoon #cmechat from London

BrianSMcGowan              @mathena123 ...and Good afternoon to you too.  late arriving crowd in general this week...let see who else is joining us. #CMEchat

drerikbrady        Erik here, from Raleigh, beautiful day outside, looking forward to the topic  #CMEchat #letsdothisyall

BrianSMcGowan              @drerikbrady - Morning Eric! #cmeCHAT

drerikbrady        @BrianSMcGowan Good morning to you, Bryan #spellingerrors #CMEchat

CMEChat             Small group today...lets see how it goes and who joins us over time! #CMEchat

CMEChat             “Self-direction” is considered a fundamental adult learning principle, today we will explore models for “Self-direction” learning. #CMEchat

mbaffuto             Mike B in NJ. Office phones are down, perfect time for #CMEchat.

dpguinee             Daniel from central NJ here #cmechat

rmtyner               michelle from Indiana - checking in late #cmechat

CMEChat             In each case study we're looking for suggestions allowing learners to more actively guide their learning w/i some defined format #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Brandee Plott here from Vail. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              Howdy to Daniel, Michelle, Brandee and Mike #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: To ensure that we are clear: What does self-directed learning mean to you? In general, what does it look like? #CMEchat

CMEChat             T1: To ensure that we are clear: What does self-directed learning mean to you? In general, what does it look like? #CMEchat

HaleyMarie3      Good morning! Haley here from Ohio  #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: I think that 'self-directed' learning is largely an internal process - connecting new lessons to existing questions/experiences #CMEchat

brandeeplott     To me it is motivated by the learner because of a problem in practice. May not be formal learning. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t1: ... it is the ability to make connections to past experiences...sometimes it is easy, sometime learners need help. #CMEchat

drerikbrady        T1: Self-directed learning: learners realizes that they need info to allow them to perform, goes seeking info, finds it, performs #CMEchat

dpguinee             S/D learning means I select the content and guide the pace at which I participate #cmechat

mathena123       Self directed learning involves self identification of needs and location of education to for fill those needs. #cmechat

CMEChat             @brandeeplott - fair point, but for the exercise today we will try to make formal learning a better 'self-directed' experience, ok? #CMEchat

brandeeplott     I consider self-directed learning the most personalized approach to learning. #cmechat

HaleyMarie3      Self-directed learning: research, note-taking, applying new information to work/practice  #cmechat

brandeeplott     @cmechat Got it. #cmechat

giasison                RT @BrianSMcGowan: Good Monday to the #CMEchat-ters everywhere! Hope all is well.  Brian here moderating this week...should be a great theme!

BrianSMcGowan              @dpguinee - but you speak about content as if it is one thing...aren't their many ideas in a given program? #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Also following up after a formal learning experience. #cmechat

RonanTKavanagh             @BrianSMcGowan The filling of some pot holes in my knowledge base (and everyone has DIFFERENT potholes) #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              RT @brandeeplott: I consider self-directed learning the most personalized approach to learning. #cmechat // agreed. #intrinsicmotivation

mbaffuto             T1: @drerikbrady took my answer :)  SD is often a subconscious process. #CMEchat.

giasison                Hi all first time to join loving the topic of self learning. Gia here physician/breast CA patient frm Manila signing in! #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t1: seems that the challeng we have in CME is that we tend to 'broadcast' content to large groups...impossible to be too specific #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Important to achieve balance between the learning you want to do and need to do. #cmechat

giasison                T1 Self learning requires determination as driver and passion as its fuel. Agree that internal motivation is a factor. #CMEchat

CMEChat             T2: What are your best practices in supporting ‘self-directed learning’ w/i live, SMALL group learning (&lt;50) #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              #TOTD RT @brandeeplott: Important to achieve balance between the learning you want to do and need to do. #cmechat

giasison                Love this! RT @HaleyMarie3: Self-directed learning: research, note-taking, applying new information to work/practice  #cmechat

mathena123       @BrianSMcGowan large groups can still for fill self directed education if it for fills the self directed need. #cmechat

giasison                RT @CMEChat: T2: What are your best practices in supporting ‘self-directed learning’ w/i live, SMALL group learning (&lt;50) #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan Are learning tracks a partial solution to this? #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              I think Brandee nailed the challenge...self-direction doesn't mean 'right direction' as educators we need to shape the experiences. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              RT @brandeeplott: @briansmcgowan Are learning tracks a partial solution to this? #cmechat // I think so...we will focus on large grps nxt!

giasison                T2 Social media big help from my end of the globe-tweet chats (global forums) &amp; links shared big help in self learning #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @mathena123 - i agree...Question is how to best design education for the group, that still allows for S/D? #CMEchat

bethnearymd    #cmechat Hi. I am a pediatrician, teaching med students. I also teach undergrads in public health class. Madison, WI

brandeeplott     Maybe doing a little pre-work for a small group setting sets them up beforehand and leanring can be tailored based on that? #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t2: seems the challenge is easiest to solve in small groups...either through individual engagement...and feedback. #CMEchat

giasison                @bethnearymd Waving hi Beth! #cmechat

HaleyMarie3      T2: Allowing learners to come up with their own questions and get answers from the faculty/experts #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t2 @brandeeplott - I was thinking the same thing...whether it is pre-work, flipped classroom, or feedback loops. #cmeCHAT

brandeeplott     @giasison Also tweet chats very cost effective! #cmechat

HaleyMarie3      T2: Pre-surveying learners and using results to design edu that best fits their needs  #cmechat

giasison                @brandeeplott Agree Brandee #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              RT @giasison: @bethnearymd Waving hi Beth! #cmechat //THANKS to you both for joiing us!

CMEChat             RT @giasison: @bethnearymd Waving hi Beth! #cmechat //THANKS to you both for joiing us!

drerikbrady        T2: in some sessions, we offer an iPad for use to allow learners to look up a quick ?, but there are challenges #CMEchat #checkinggmail

CMEChat             T3: What are your best practices in supporting ‘self-directed learning’ w/i live, LARGE group learning (&gt;50) #CMEchat

giasison                @BrianSMcGowan @brandeeplott Feedback loops very good model for best practice Brian #cmechat

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan Real challenge is getting them to do work beforehand but maybe if credit is offered... #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @HaleyMarie3 - you've hit on another critical take away. We need to gather more data on learners 'in the room' vs general needs! #CMEchat

mathena123       When I reflect on my needs I tend to focus on smaller grp teaching and large grp didactic to help focus my needs #CMEchat

giasison                @brandeeplott Got it right specially nowadays #cmechat

mbaffuto             t2: @BrianSMcGowan @brandeeplott but is 'assigned' pre-work self directed? #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @brandeeplott - you see what you did there? you raised a 'motivation' question...difference b/w theory and practice! #CMEchat

giasison                @BrianSMcGowan @bethnearymd Honored to join Brian thanks for the warm welcome :-) #cmechat

bethnearymd    T2 #cmechat having students view videos/on line articles before class makes the small group discussions richer

brandeeplott     Maybe having them take pre-course survey to determine which track. LMS's could help with this even for live education. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @mbaffuto- surely it can be...structure is every bit as critical with 'self-directed' learning as not. #unknownunknowns #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @mbaffuto Maybe let them choose between options for pre-work? #cmechat #slightlySD

BrianSMcGowan              t3: in larger groups...even in lectures....we must find ways to nudge learners to find their own relavance. Telling stories helps! #CMEchat

dpguinee             We have registrants select sample cases that appeal most...then in the live event, majority of pre-reg voters direct the content...#cmechat

mathena123       @BrianSMcGowan @mbaffuto almost more important to have structure #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T2: ok - yet another theme has arisen —&gt; 'Options' &lt;— several have suggested that providing options leverages Self-direction. #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan Having them bring their own caseto discuss  helps. Large group can be broken into smaller groups. #cmechat

dpguinee             But couldn't one argue that by attending the lecture, the learner is self-directing? #cmechat

brandeeplott     @mathena123 Key is to make it not feel structured. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @dpguinee so a crowd sourcing model? let's see = 1) more data on learners 2) relevance 3) pre-work 4) options. win-win-win-win #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @dpguinee Good point! Hi Daniel! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              RT @dpguinee: But couldn't one argue that by attending the lecture, the learner is self-directing? #cmechat #coy

dpguinee             As @theCMEguy pointed out last week, sometimes I want to learn by listening #cmechat

drerikbrady        T3: We need "choose your own adventure" CME. #CMEchat

CMEChat             Now the cases may get a bit more challenging...are we ready? #CMEchat

dpguinee             RT @briansmcgowan: That's the idea! @dpguinee so a crowd sourcing model? win-win-win-win #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              RT @drerikbrady: T3: We need "choose your own adventure" CME. #CMEchat ?? have you been peaking at my notes?

giasison                @BrianSMcGowan @dpguinee Nice summary of points relevant to best practices #cmechat

brandeeplott     RT @dpguinee: As @theCMEguy pointed out last week, sometimes I want to learn by listening #cmechat

bethnearymd    #cmechat Personally, I have come to hate the large lecture hall—would prefer to watch lectures on line-then I can speed up the pace.

giasison                RT @dpguinee: As @theCMEguy pointed out last week, sometimes I want to learn by listening #cmechat

CMEChat             T4: What r your best practices in supporting ‘self-directed learning’ w/i traditional ENDURING online education (webcast/slidecast) #CMEchat

brandeeplott     We have to remember that different people respond to different types of stimulation, auditory, visual, etc, #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              .@bethnearymd - so self-paced learning is clearly a valuable form of self-direction, but where do you go w/ new questions? #CMEchat

drerikbrady        T4: Qualifying ?: Does PoC CME count as traditional? #CMEchat

brandeeplott     T4: Embed questions throughout and have next bit correspond to their answers? #cmechat

CMEChat             Good question, but lets say no. RT @drerikbrady: T4: Qualifying ?: Does PoC CME count as traditional? #CMEchat

giasison                @CMEChat T4 Slideshare, shared transcript of chats very effective from my end as best practice #cmechat

brandeeplott     @drerikbrady Isn't POC the ultimate self-directed learning but is still structured? #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @brandeeplott - the idea of adaptive learning is aligned with EriK's CYOA suggestion....what are the practical challenges? #CMEchat

giasison                RT @brandeeplott: We have to remember that different people respond to different types of stimulation, auditory, visual, etc, #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              RT @brandeeplott: @drerikbrady Isn't POC the ultimate self-directed learning but is still structured? #cmechat ? #SheIsHotToday! #Fire

drerikbrady        @brandeeplott Yes, in my mind, it is #CMEchat T4

giasison                @brandeeplott Great point Brandee! Modalities of learning is an impt factor to take into consideration #cmechat

cmaer   Experiencing the broad spectrum of #ottawa life that represented by the riders on the number 12 bus into Vanier (while lurking on #cmechat)

BrianSMcGowan              T4: IMO, We MUST make the choice to reach out to learners...break the 4th wall...force them to play the protagonist. #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan Not really hard of you get a few test participants involved in the development phase. #cmechat #costprohibitive?

giasison                @cmaer Hello Pat!!! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @cmaer - glad to be the diversion...if you were driving the Bus than that would be truly self-directed! #CMEchat #Ba-da-dum

drerikbrady        T4: Link to other content within an activity to allow learners to jump to other places for clarification, that works #CMEchat

mathena123       Got to say that I love videos for endoscopy difficult to have a dynamic skill taught without visual and POC teaching #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @drerikbrady Like it! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @brandeeplott - in theory you would be creating 50-75% redundant or parallel content...#cost #Time...any alternatves? #CMEchat

bethnearymd    @BrianSMcGowan do you mean clinical cases that I am perplexed about? I have used a physician only website to get input #cmechat

aCMEstory          Sorry to miss most, if not all of today's #CMEchat. :-(

BrianSMcGowan              @drerikbrady - you're echoing everything I have been working on for the past few years...check out the @Archemedx resource center! #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Have to go. Thanks for good learning! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @bethnearymd - not just cases...but as we learn we often hear things that help us shape new questions about content relavance? #CMEchat

cmaer   @BrianSMcGowan Mobile learning #cmechat

drerikbrady        @briansmcgowan Then we're aligned, because this is exactly what we're doing within activities T4 #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @mathena123 - some great research on 'flipping' endoscopy lessons using series of short videos that learners can self-pace. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              RT @cmaer: @BrianSMcGowan Mobile learning #cmechat // for the Bus-y learner!

aCMEstory          T1-4: Consider incorporating elements of the Self Directed Learning Readiness Scale into educational design. #CMEchat t.co/EEuCuc7MfD

BrianSMcGowan              #TOTD MT @aCMEstory: T1-4: Consider the Self Directed Learning Readiness Scale in ed design. #CMEchat t.co/1oacPHQEKq

CMEChat             Thanks for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of employers

CMEChat             As we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!

CMEChat             The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect &amp; take action on things you’ve learned!

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at t.co/EylNu0ipQF

cmaer   RT @CMEChat: The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect &amp; take action on things you’ve learned!

giasison                @bethnearymd Hi Beth! Nice to see you at #cmechat :-)

giasison                RT @cmaer: RT @CMEChat: The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect &amp; take action on things you’ve learned!

mathena123       Great to chat today. Helped me with reflecting on what I'm going to do at the next Conf I attend!  #CMEchat

giasison                @cmaer @CMEChat Well said Pat! Great chat on #cmechat tonight New learnings indeed! Great job Brian! @BrianSMcGowan

#CMEchat 73: Overcoming challenges with lecture: Ways to Make it Better!

One of my favorite CME chats in months...great crowd gathered to shre best practices and experiences in how to take a lecture format and make it better...lots of themes emerged, see if you can spot your favorites!

Here are topics for this week:

There has been much debate about whether lecture works, w/o taking a definitive position, today we will look to ‘make it better’ #CMEchat

We can broadly define lecture as a largely unidirectional presentation of information, with limited interaction

T1: What are your best examples of improving the “lecture” experiences for Live, small group learning (<50) #CMEchat

T2: What are your best examples of improving the “lecture” experiences for Live, large group learning (>50) #CMEchat

T3: What are your best examples of improving the “lecture” experiences for traditional ONLINE LIVE education (webinar) #CMEchat

You can review the archived tweetstream below or download it HERE:



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BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 3 hours for #CMEchat 73 as we discuss "Overcoming challenges with lecture: Ways to Make it Better!"

BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 2 hours for #CMEchat 73 as we discuss "Overcoming challenges with lecture: Ways to Make it Better!"

BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 60 minutes for #CMEchat 73 as we discuss "Overcoming challenges with lecture: Ways to Make it Better!"

BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 5 MINUTES for #CMEchat 73 as we discuss "Overcoming challenges with lecture: Ways to Make it Better!"

CMEChat             Welcome to #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of current, past, or future employers.

CMEChat             As we get started, please introduce yourself: Location? Focus? Favorite topics? What brings you here today? #CMEchat

CMEChat             A new question will be asked every 8-10 min or so. If you can, please include “T#...” in related responses. #CMEchat

CMEChat             Please remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the participants can follow the #CMEchat discussion

CMEChat             Topics will guide the discussion, but real learning &amp; teaching lies in your tweets - please engage. #CMEchat

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived at t.co/EylNu0ipQF shortly after the session has ended.

rmtyner               Michelle from Indiana - lurking today - started my new job and am on conference calls but have definite opinions about todays topic #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              Welcome to the 73 edition of #CMEchat...a weekly opportunity to share, to learn, and to grow as CME professionals

dpguinee             Daniel here, central NJ, med ed company; excited to be on time for #CMEchat this week.

BrianSMcGowan              @dpguinee - glad to have you join! excited to hear what you have to add today! #CMEchat

aCMEstory          Good morning and happy Monday. Ready to #CMEchat

triciawil Tricia in rainy Cville joining in for #CMEchat

beth333SP          Beth Brillinger, Dir of Accred from CME Outfitters, good morning! #CMEchat

drerikbrady        Erik from Raleigh, finally able to join again, welcoming @rmtyner to CCO! #CMEchat

CMEChat             Many folks still debate whether lecture works, w/o taking a definitive position, today we will look to ‘make it better’... #CMEchat (1/2)

mbaffuto             Mike signing on from NJ. Nice topic! Working at a MEC = a lot of lectures. #understatement #CMEchat

HaleyMarie3      Haley here from Ohio. Hello! #cmechat

CMEChat             For today, we can broadly define 'lecture' as a largely unidirectional presentation of information, w/ limited interaction. agreed? #CMEchat

theCMEguy        Derek in Philly. Here until the wife calls me away to move heavy objects #CMEchat

dpguinee             #CMEChat Sounds fair enough

BrianSMcGowan              great crowd on the chat! glad to see so many familiar faces! #CMEchat

aCMEstory          A comparison of tele-education versus conventional lectures in wound care knowledge and skill acquisition. t.co/7mFnt3xffX #cmechat

CMEChat             as with last week, we will explore 4 case studies w/ hopes of providing some very practical ways to make 'lecture' better! #CMEchat

drerikbrady        Definition accepted: unidirectional presentation of information w/ limited interaction #CMEchat #T1 #wheresthequestion

rmtyner               @aCMEstory I think that I would like to know whos test scores were higher... i think learners may rate live better the distance #CMEchat

CMEChat             In each case study please focus on the ALL CAPS words as they intentionally narrow the conversation! #CMEchat

aCMEstory          RT @drerikbrady: Definition accepted: unidirectional presentation of information w/ limited interaction #CMEchat #T1 #wheresthequestion

CMEChat             T1: What are your best examples of improving the “lecture” experiences for live, SMALL GROUP learning (&lt;50) #CMEchat

patrickdherron  Patrick - Albert Einstein College of Medicine in Bronx, NY - great topic choice for today! #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              ...we may come up with a laundry list of suggestions to get better with lecture! #CMEchat

dpguinee             Small group - under 25? 50?  #CMEChat

rmtyner               T1 one of the best &lt;50 sessions I have done included hands on joint examination where faculty were there to guide the exam #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @rmtyner does this fit into a 'lecture' model? #CMEchat...

rmtyner               @BrianSMcGowan it was a part of the lecture session - #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              "t1: there will be themes that evolve in this conversation, surely emotion is one. No? Can the lecturer engage emotionally?

#CMEChat"

drerikbrady        #T1 we have a #gaming model, divide up into small groups, assign groups to faculty, gets competitive, keeps learners engaged #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T1: In small group live lectures it has been helpful to query expectations of group at start to "customize" content focus. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @rmtyner fair enough...but I am trying to imagine the faculty bolted behind the podium. #CMEchat

dpguinee             T1 - group of 40, start w 2 15-min presentations (w/Q&amp;A), 5 min break, then hands-on sim training. Worked better than proposed!  #CMEChat

patrickdherron  T1: Being a skilled facilitator (adaptive; improvisational) more important than being content expert w/ SMALL GROUP learning (&lt;50) #CMEchat

theCMEguy        T1: Faculty member w/ lapel mic, walking among participants, having face-to-face interaction during Q&amp;A #CMEChat

drerikbrady        @briansmcgowan #T1, in the #gaming sessions, faculty definitely get emotionally involved, they want their team to WIN!! #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @patrickdherron - this is so true...small groups provide such a great oppotunity to shepard learners...facilitate...engage. #CMEchat #skillz

mbaffuto             T1 - incorporate multimedia into the 'unidirectional' experience - variety in engagement: audio, video, pictures, charts #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t1: two words: #STORY #TELLING //#CMEchat

drerikbrady        #T1, we also do a master class model, faculty at each table in rounds for indepth discussion #CMEchat #bewareherdingcats

aCMEstory          T1: In small groups it is important that the faculty represents the audience in terms of specialty/discipline. #CMEchat

theCMEguy        T1: Huge amount depends on presenter. Skilled,engaging speaker = better learning experience. #CMEChat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: another theme that might well carry over into every scenario is breaking content into smaller digestible chunks. #CMEchat

dpguinee             Also, the best story(teller) wins RT @briansmcgowan: t1: two words: #STORY #TELLING //#CMEchat

aCMEstory          T1: Set expectations for faculty, learners for the appropriate level of interaction, engagement based on subject matter. #cmechat

drerikbrady        MT @acmestory: T1: In small groups, important that faculty represent the audience in terms of specialty/discipline. #CMEchat totally agree

dpguinee             T1 - sample 'cases' at time of invite; ask for 'top choice'; 3 most-voted choices become the cases of focus at the live lecture #CMEChat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: I suggest to faculty that they never go more than 5-10 minutes w/o 'reaching out' to the learners &amp; 'breaking the 4th wall' #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       Deirdre in Saskatchewan Canada #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan This only works if the faculty know how to do it. Some not good at "reaching out" and engaging. #CMEChat

aCMEstory          @briansmcgowan Absolutely. Otherwise weighty subject matter, lots of data can equal learner fatigue and disconnect. #CMEchat

amcunningham It's a Bank Holiday so I could join in with #cmechat for once:)

BrianSMcGowan              @theCMEguy - is it fair to say that if faculty 'aren't good at reaching out' then they shouldn't be on the faculty? #CMEchat

theCMEguy        T1: Some of the onus is on provider to pick the right faculty. #CMEChat

dpguinee             TOTD  RT @patrickdherron: Being a skilled facilitator (adaptive; improvisational) more important than being content expert w/ SMALL #cmechat

HaleyMarie3      RT @mbaffuto: T1 incorporate multimedia into the unidirectional experience - variety in engagement: audio, video, pictures, charts #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @amcunningham - glad to have you join! #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan Depends on goal of your activity, but...yes. #CMEChat

patrickdherron  T1: Being observed and getting feedback on your teaching skills by well respected colleagues known for SMALL GROUP learning (&lt;50) #CMEchat

dpguinee             Amen, brother! MT @briansmcgowan: @theCMEguy - if faculty 'aren't good at reaching out' then they shouldn't be on the faculty? #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       I saw a great case that unfolded as people asked the right questions. Ask the right question and more information was revealed. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: what if we built our agendas in 5-10 minutes story arcs...giving faculty the support they need to 'get better' at lecture. #CMEchat

triciawil T1 Panel of speakers with cases at tables.  Speakers circulated. Learners then "presented" back the group &amp; panel responded. #cmechat

dpguinee             Live?  Or online?  RT @bonnycastle: I saw a great case that unfolded as people asked the right questions. #CMEchat

drerikbrady        @briansmcgowan I'd say yes. A subject matter expert and a skilled facilitator/educator are often not tied up in a single person #CMEchat

dpguinee             Reducing "lecture" time is key.  RT @briansmcgowan: T1: what if we built our agendas in 5-10 minutes story arcs... #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: @Bonnycastle - this cements the idea about great faculty being 1 part expert: 2 parts facilitator #CMEchat

aCMEstory          @briansmcgowan @theCMEguy Create opportunities to incl presentation skill building, audience engagement as part of faculty prep. #CMEchat

spelletier             No idea what the topic is, but great convo to drop in on! #cmechat

theCMEguy        +1 RT @dpguinee: Reducing "lecture" time is key.  RT @briansmcgowan: T1: what if we built our agendas in 5-10 minutes story arcs... #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: I love that one suggest for making lecture better is to 'reduce lecture time' #CMEchat surely it can be better w/o less of it, no?

HaleyMarie3      T1: For a successful lecture, I think a good presenter and well articulated slides/presentation go hand in hand #cmechat

CMEChat             @spelletier - much debate about whether lecture works, w/o taking a definitive position, today we will look to ‘make it better’ #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @theCMEguy @dpguinee - shouldn't that be -1? #CMEchat

theCMEguy        T1: Very rarely have I been at a lecture and left thinking, "Boy, I wish they had had more time to lecture..." #CMEChat

CMEChat             T2: What are your best examples of improving the “lecture” experiences for Live, LARGE GROUP learning (&gt;50) #CMEchat

mbaffuto             T1: we build "discussion slides" with open ended ?s at end of each section for the less interactive faculty  #cmechat

spelletier             t2 multimedia really helps! And an engaging presenter who seems to care deeply about the topic #cmechat

CMEChat             Surely many of the ideas b/w T1 and T2 overlap...but try to focus on suggestions for large groups in particular! #CMEchat

aCMEstory          3-year Study of Lecture Multimedia Use in Med Curriculum: Associations w/ Performances in Basic Sciences t.co/eo5ZF36fs4 #CMEchat

triciawil T2: Refer to themes at ACEHP - include the human element &amp; remind learners why they do what they do.  Video clips, stories, etc. #cmechat

drerikbrady        #TOTD @thecmeguy: T1: Very rarely have I been at a lecture and left thinking, "Boy, I wish they had had more time to lecture..." #CMEChat

BrianSMcGowan              .@mbaffuto - I think this is a great support tool...even if faculty can't think of ways to engage, surely they can read a slide! #CMEchat

spelletier             t2 when presenters "chunk" the info into 5-10 minute bits and use breaks between for interaction #cmechat

aCMEstory          T2: Know (and learn) your audience! Adapt lecture accordingly based on level of engagement, questions, demographics. #CMEchat #themoreuknow

drerikbrady        T2 - Honestly, i think the best strategy with larger groups is to break them up into small groups #CMEchat

spelletier             t2 engaging emotions—heart not just head (again, multimedia helps) #cmechat

Bonnycastle       I teach faculty to organize lectures in 10-15 minute chunks around 1 topic then engagement activity. Works Well! #CMEchat

dpguinee             Aha moment!  RT @drerikbrady: T2 - Honestly, i think the best strategy with larger groups is to break them up into small groups #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @spelletier - great minds think alike! #CMEchat (and are easily distracted by monotonous droning on and on and on. #CMEchat

CMEChat             @drerikbrady - please draw inside the lines #CMEchat ;-)

HaleyMarie3      RT @drerikbrady: T2 - Honestly, i think the best strategy with larger groups is to break them up into small groups #cmechat

Bonnycastle       My list of engagement activities in medical ed t.co/7M51vxKG8n #CMEchat #meded

spelletier             #TOTD RT @drerikbrady: T2 - Honestly, i think the best strategy with larger groups is to break them up into small groups #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              And I love that one suggestion for improving large groups sessions is to make them small group sessions. #CMEchat #rebels

theCMEguy        @triciawil Nice! #CMEChat

aCMEstory          T2: After every topic/theme summarize key takeaway points &amp; reinforce utility in clinical practice with a reference to support it. #CMEchat

theCMEguy        Cheater RT @drerikbrady: T2 - Honestly, i think the best strategy with larger groups is to break them up into small groups #CMEchat

mbaffuto             T2: for larger groups, multiple lecturers to give audience a few different perspectives. #CMEchat

spelletier             @BrianSMcGowan t2 only problem is you can't always break them into small groups #cmechat

dpguinee             We keep lecture time to 20 mins - if you can't say it in 20 mins, it needs to be broken apart.  #CMEChat

patrickdherron  T2: Audience Response systems can be a great asset, but use sparingly (time  &lt;10min) and know the tech well before trying it out.   #CMEchat

dpguinee             TED is my role model!  #CMEChat

drerikbrady        @thecmeguy @briansmcgowan Am I taking craZy pills? #CMErebels #CMEchat #ialwayscoloredoutsidethelines

theCMEguy        But I have 149 slides!!! RT @dpguinee: We keep lecture time to 20 mins - if you can't say it in 20 mins, it needs to be broken apar #CMEChat

BrianSMcGowan              T2: faculty must lay out a 'treaure map experience' for learners...critical to frame a problem and work towards the solution #CMEchat

AUS_Admissions              RT @briansmcgowan: Wanted: role models—medical students' perceptions of professionalism. t.co/wHUT56ptSw #meded #CMEchat...

drerikbrady        @thecmeguy Ugh... then you're not focused on A learning objective... #CMEchat

mbaffuto             if only every faculty could TED! RT @dpguinee TED is my role model!  #CMEChat

aCMEstory          T2: Get from behind the podium and don't lecture to slides—just use to reinforce key points! #CMEchat

spelletier             @BrianSMcGowan t2 I have never experienced that treasure map idea. Sounds very cool #cmechat

Bonnycastle       @patrickdherron We have had great results with audience response systems done well they can actively involve med students/ faculty #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @aCMEstory How about slides with no bullet points? #CMEChat

theCMEguy        Nope. I have 4 objectives for my talk #sarcasm RT @drerikbrady: @thecmeguy Ugh... then you're not focused on A learning objective.. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              I wouldn't invest too much the TED model - emotions are great, but facts are critical. Little substance in over-produced talks! #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       PS the engagement techniques at t.co/7M51vxKG8n are primarily for large classrooms #CMEchat

HaleyMarie3      RT @BrianSMcGowan: T2: faculty must lay out a treasure map experience for learners...frame a problem and work towards the solution #cmechat

aCMEstory          @thecmeguy Could work. Also, a blank or black slide to draw folks attn from screen back to faculty can periodically re-engage. #CMEchat

spelletier             t2 can we pare it down so each lecture just has one main learning objective? Always try to cover too much too quickly—exhausting! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              Great conversation so far...awesome job! Let's try to keep it going while we move on to case #3! #CMEchat

CMEChat             T3: What are your best examples of improving the “lecture” experiences for traditional ONLINE LIVE education (webinar) #CMEchat

dpguinee             T2 - of course, our attendees are a factor, too - some just want to sit idly at a lecture.  #cmechat

ElinSilveous        #CMEChat folks might also be interested in the #PCORI board webcast going on today. Details at t.co/lsxvLqq68z #CER #Outcomes

Bonnycastle       T3 Have participants use a whiteboard to answer questions #CMEchat

spelletier             t3 webinar presenter used chat, twitter to converse, answer questions in real time. It was awesome. Not many can juggle tho #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t3: so much goes into success w/ online lectures: production is key (is distance learner an afterthought)? #CMEchat

drerikbrady        @spelletier This has always been my goal, 1 talk=20 mins=1 objective(=1 outcomes question) #CMEchat #justaruleofthumb

HaleyMarie3      T3: Integrating audio/video with slides in webinar format...also have Q&amp;A widget and #SoMe widget for interaction  #cmechat

theCMEguy        THIS is a good point. RT @dpguinee: T2 - of course, our attendees are a factor, too - some just want to sit idly at a lecture.  #cmechat

spelletier             But they don't want to b bored either RT @dpguinee: T2 ...some just want to sit idly at a lecture.  #cmechat

triciawil T3:  Pre-webinar survey of attendees to better tailor the lecture. #cmechat

drerikbrady        @dpguinee i'll challenge that.  i don't think that person is really invested in learning #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       T3 Encourage participants to use chat functions to answer questions during online lecture #CMEchat

triciawil T3:  Also, pure "ask the experts" format on a specific topic. #cmechat

theCMEguy        Disagree 100% RT @drerikbrady: @dpguinee i'll challenge that.  i don't think that person is really invested in learning #CMEchat

mbaffuto             T3: ask pointed question about user practice. even if they can't respond, make them reflect on what they currently do #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       Use a wiki in asynchronous online classes to get students to share resources, ideas #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T3:Just like the room/setting are key elements in live mtgs [tho no one discussed it ;-) ], the environment is key online! #CMEchat

spelletier             Synchronous Twitter chat/chat function for live online makes it much more engaging #cmechat

drerikbrady        @thecmeguy I'd like to understand your POV better, i think the learner must have an active role in the process #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              when someone disagrees 100%....then we seem to have struck a nerve.  @theCMEguy can we assume you are making an introvert comment? #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T3: Online attn spans even shorter. Keep lecture time to data points, incorp questions, reinforce points w/ text, vid, animations. #CMEchat

dpguinee             Room temp?  Disappointing meal? MT @briansmcgowan: T3: the environment is key online! #CMEchat

drerikbrady        T3 - mostly listening, we don't do very many webinars #CMEchat

spelletier             Think about what makes #CMEchat so engaging—do more of that! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T3: CME professionals too rarely step back to consider all the 'environmental' elements that may attract or distract ONLINE. #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T3: Post-learning,  follow up with summary of online engagement, test responses and recommendations for add'l #meded. #CMEchat

drerikbrady        @briansmcgowan @thecmeguy I think I'm about to become fodder for a blog post #CMEchat

triciawil T3;  We did 2-3 webinars/month for 3 1/2 years. Most well attended w engaged learners were q &amp; a formats.  #cmechat

dpguinee             T3 We use a 'classroom' model effectively for pharmacists — option to 'raise hand', get called on, etc.  #cmechat

theCMEguy        @drerikbrady I think someone can learn by sitting back and listening. I do it all the time. #CMEChat

drerikbrady        @briansmcgowan It's actually the environmental elements that have us trending away from offering webinars #CMEchat T3

BrianSMcGowan              t3: the physicality of the faculty member is also vital, are they awkward on camera...does there voice 'work' online? #CMEchat #meded #truth

theCMEguy        That definitely plays a part in it, sure. MT @BrianSMcGowan: can we assume you are making an introvert comment? #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       I attend many 500 person webinars where I just listen. If well presented with stories and images, they keep attention. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @drerikbrady but online education is the fastest growing (real) segment of the CME delivery model...HCPs demanding more. #CMEchat

spelletier             Format we use most 4 webinars is 3 15-minute segments with Q&amp;A either between or at end—seems to work OK #cmechat

drerikbrady        @thecmeguy In what settings?  Large groups? Online? Or 1-on-1?  #CMEchat

spelletier             Voice tone and theatricality are even more important online, IMHO. Droners bad IRL, even worse online #cmechat

aCMEstory          @briansmcgowan Excellent point. Subject Matter Expert does not necessarily equal effective educator. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              #TOTD T1-3: can we agree that any lecture that for which there was no 'dress rehearsal' is at best a crap shoot? #practice #CMEchat #meded

theCMEguy        All (well, not 1-on-1. That's just awkward...) RT @drerikbrady: @thecmeguy In what settings?  Large groups? Online? Or 1-on-1?  #CMEchat

patrickdherron  RT @aCMEstory: @briansmcgowan Excellent point. Subject Matter Expert does not necessarily equal effective educator. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @drerikbrady - there are too few of the latter in CME to make a comment. so on-demand for sure (for now). #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       RT @aCMEstory: @briansmcgowan Excellent point. Subject Matter Expert does not necessarily equal effective educator. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @patrickdherron - you see what your tweet looks like in the tweetstream...very offensive ;-) #CMEchat

CMEChat             Thanks for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of employers

drerikbrady        @briansmcgowan Ah, well strike my earlier comment about us not doing many of these, i made an incorrect assumption #CMEchat

CMEChat             As we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!

CMEChat             The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect &amp; take action on things you’ve learned!

aCMEstory          T3: Critical to recognize and adapt for different levels of learner "investment" when developing #elearning. #CMEchat

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at t.co/EylNu0ipQF

spelletier             sort of OT: Can you train an SME to be an educator? Not sure everyone has it in them #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              We can help them improve...RT @spelletier: sort of OT: Can you train an SME to be an educator? Not sure everyone has it in them #cmechat

drerikbrady        @spelletier I go back and forth on this.  I'm a strong "maybe."  #CMEchat

spelletier             Glad I could stop by, even if just for part of it today. Great discussion! #cmechat

RandleLondon   RT @spelletier: Voice tone and theatricality are even more important online, IMHO. Droners bad IRL, even worse online #cmechat

mbaffuto             #TOTD RT @BrianSMcGowan T1: I suggest to faculty that they never go more than 5-10 minutes w/o 'reaching out' &amp; 'breaking 4th wall' #CMEchat

spelletier             #TOTD RT @BrianSMcGowan: t1: two words: #STORY #TELLING //#CMEchat #cmechat

aCMEstory          TOTD @patrickdherron T2: Audience Response can be a great asset, but use sparingly (&lt;10min) &amp; know tech well before trying it out. #CMEchat

#CMEchat 72: Adding elements of realism to case studies & simulations

So many practical tips beings shared today that @brandeeplott tweeted, "Too many good tweets today to pick TOTD #cmechat #indecisive!" And that about sums it up for me...

Our topic today built on the conversations of the last few weeks and we shared practical advice and experiences of how to make case studies and simulations even more realistic

The topics (cases) for today were as follows:

Picking up on the theme from #71, today we look at adding elements of realism to case studies and simulations #CMEchat

In each shared scenario, we are looking to optimize realism & learning by engaging the senses (sight, sound…) #CMEchat

The scenarios are intentionally challenging, but realistic for much of how CME is delivered… #CMEchat

T1 Case Scenario 1: Live ‘lecture’ in a small group mtg (n<50). How can we add realism & engage the senses? #CMEchat

T2 Scenario 2: Live ‘lecture’ in a large group mtg (n<200). How can we add realism & engage the senses? #CMEchat

T3 Scenario 3: Online learning module (non-live) w/ or w/o simulated patient video. How can we add realism & engage the senses #CMEchat

T4: Did you pick up any useful tips or ideas today? If so, what changes are you prepared to make? #CMEchat #meded


You can review the archive of the chat below, or download it HERE:

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BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 3 hours for #CMEchat 72 as we discuss 'Adding elements of realism to case studies & simulations' #meded

BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 2 hours for #CMEchat 72 as we discuss 'Adding elements of realism to case studies & simulations' #meded

CMEChat             Join us in 60 mins for #CMEchat 72 as we discuss 'Adding elements of realism to case studies & simulations' #meded

aCMEstory          RT @CMEChat: Join us in 60 mins for #CMEchat 72 as we discuss 'Adding elements of realism to case studies & simulations' #meded

CMEChat             "If you're learning something, involve as many senses as possible to help retain the experience." - great lesson for today's #CMEchat

CMEChat             Welcome to #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of current, past, or future employers.

CMEChat             As we get started, please introduce yourself: Location? Focus? Favorite topics? What brings you here today? #CMEchat

CMEChat             A new question will be asked every 8-10 min or so. If you can, please include “T#...” in related responses. #CMEchat

CMEChat             Please remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the participants can follow the #CMEchat discussion

jecme   Please input into our quick survey on pros and cons of styles of accreditation at t.co/BckAae19U6 #6ECF #cmechat #meded

BrianSMcGowan              Topics will guide the discussion, but real learning &amp; teaching lies in your tweets - please engage. #CMEchat

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived at t.co/EylNu0ipQF shortly after the session has ended.

BrianSMcGowan              Good morning #CMEchat-ters...great topic this week...looking forward to your engagement to overcome the dreary rain of Philly!

EuropeanCME   RT @jecme: Please input into our quick survey on pros and cons of styles of accreditation at t.co/ij3F3hQlW5 #6ECF #cmechat #meded

brandeeplott     Brandee Plott here on this gorgeous spring day in Vail. :) #cmechat

CMEChat             Picking up on the theme from #71, today we look at adding elements of realism to case studies and simulations #CMEchat

rmtyner               Michelle from Indiana - looking forward to the #MonthofMay in Indianapolis!! #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Alex Djuricich, from Indy, in and out today for the chat.  I am interested in using technology to guide (not replace) education #cmechat

CMEChat             In each shared scenario, we are looking to optimize realism &amp; learning by engaging the senses (sight, sound…taste?) #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              The scenarios are intentionally challenging, but realistic for much of how #meded and CME is delivered… #CMEchat

theCMEguy        Derek here in Chestnut Hill. Experiencing withdrawal from the gorgeous weekend. #cmechat

aCMEstory          Good morning. Greselda checking in from equally dreary DC metro area. Ready to learn and #CMEchat!

BrianSMcGowan              Irish Proverb: May the rain always arrive on Monday! (made it up) #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              Hello to Michelle, Derek, Brandee, Greselda...and all of those lurking in the ether! #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               I am also following some fascinating tweets from the #APDIM13 meeting in Orlando.  gr8 tweeting going on there! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @MedPedsDoctor - that is the res prgm directors mtg, yes? #CMEchat

beth333SP          Beth Brillinger checking in and ready to learn. #CMEchat

mbaffuto             Mike in rainy NJ checking in. #cmechat

YogAlicia3            Hello, #cmechat - lurking from EWR between flights.

CMEChat             T1 Case Scenario 1: Live ‘lecture’ in a small group mtg (n&lt;50). How can we add realism &amp; engage the senses? #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               correct.  #APDIM13 is the internal medicine residency program director meeting.  Pediatrics one was #APPD2013 (already done). #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: I personally like the simplicity of thinking about the senses...forces educators to narrow in on an overlooked element #CMEChat

theCMEguy        Nothing makes #CMEchat more dreary than when it's raining on the east coast. Need more west coasters!

MedPedsDoctor               T1. Food never hurts to engage the senses from cranial nerve 1. #cmechat

brandeeplott     Using video with real patients really seems to hit home with participants. #cmechat

rmtyner               T1 Video and audio can help to engage the patients #cmechat

brandeeplott     Sense of smell is intricately tied w/ memory. If only a way to incorporate that! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t1: perhaps the easiest approach is to role play. the adage, "stand if you'll be standing, sit if you'll be sitting" #CMEChat #smallgroups

MedPedsDoctor               I think video works well, but some get "tuned out" when video takes a while to load/is blocked/computer-goes-haywire/no-wireless #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @brandeeplott - oh there are many ways to engage the sense of smell...but can you do it while the room is full of plated dinners? #CMEchat

theCMEguy        T1: I always like when something can be passed around for those in the group to look at, feel, touch, try, etc #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T1: Remove the "staging" and have the faculty roam the room, interacting with table groups and individuals. #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @thecmeguy We could have an in-person #CMEchat on Vail. 60 &amp; sunny today. #CACME here in July.

YogAlicia3            @theCMEguy Eastern time zone isn't all bad. #CMEchat t.co/BAZ4ED83LI

BrianSMcGowan              T1: instead of setting the room to feel like an awards ceremony, design it to feel more like a [fill in the blank] #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               handout? MT @theCMEguy: T1: I always like when something can be passed around for those in the group to look at, feel, touch, try. #cmechat

mbaffuto             T1: any visual that includes patient helps in PBL. Seeing 6 yo discuss his asthma more powerful than fac discuss 6 y/o with ashtma #cmechat

theCMEguy        @MedPedsDoctor Good point. Time delays are killers. #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Having real patient tell their story very compelling. #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               cocktail party MT @BrianSMcGowan: T1: instead of setting room 2 feel like an awards ceremony, design it to feel more like a [blank] #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t1: but also think how senses could be a distraction to learning! windows to a pool? not good for 'simulation' #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Also, anything that impacts emotions tied to memory. Lots of data on this. #cmechat

theCMEguy        @MedPedsDoctor Sure, but I was thinking even more. Some sort of tool, e.g. special gloves that sim MS, RA, etc #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @MedPedsDoctor - sadly that is the standard faire at most CME meetings...and the expectation of most learners...#CMEchat

CMEChat             Remember that we are considering  'engagement' in small settings (&lt;50 learners) #CMEChat

MedPedsDoctor               As a practicing doc, I really love hearing patient stories. I have found many physicians turned off by this method. Don't know why. #cmechat

aCMEstory          Space ship @briansmcgowan: instead of setting the room to feel like an awards ceremony, design it to feel more like a  #CMEchat :-)

YogAlicia3            @theCMEguy #cmechat Devices that simulate patient challenges for healthy learners - gloves, glasses, etc.

BrianSMcGowan              @aCMEstory - is that the next version of CruiseCME? #SpaceXCME #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               .@aCMEstory At the learning center in Boston across the street from harvard med school, the top floor looks like a spaceship! #cmechat

beth333SP          Like the ACEHP pres u were involved in 2 yrs ago @theCMEguy @MedPedsDoctor Some sort of tool, e.g. special gloves sim MS, RA, etc #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @MedPedsDoctor - bringing patients into #meded is getting ALOT of chatter, but seems little practical discussion of how best. #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Build little nooks and crannies for "hallway conversation" at education centers.  Lots of learning going on in those nooks! #cmechat

CMEChat             T1: no suggestions yet around taste or (surprisingly) hearing? #CMEChat

mbaffuto             in small setting, it is critical that faculty have skills to engage. lecture to 15 won't create change, regardless of material #cmechat

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan We have tried live video feed w/ patient. Successful. #cmechat

theCMEguy        @beth333SP Exactly! Recently used those same tools in a grand rounds setting. Worked well and was nice way for attendees to engage #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: @MedPedsDoctor - engaging in small breakout groups (w/ technology) around a series of cases. #goldstandard? #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @mbaffuto I think we need speaker training for CME #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @brandeeplott - do share? what went into the 'coaching' the patient? is your experience portable? What were your challenges? #CMEchat

YogAlicia3            "@CMEChat #cmechat Yes - there are tools to simulate hearing loss, for example.

I think more common in UG clinical ed."

MedPedsDoctor               how about QR codes that provide answers to a scavenger hunt to find the room itself? #cmechat

brandeeplott     Important for practicing clinicians in that specialty. to develop cases. #relevancy #cmechat

CMEChat             preparing for the 2nd topic...bit of an extension to the first! #CMEChat

MedPedsDoctor               and "how to use AV equipment"-training ... RT @brandeeplott: @mbaffuto I think we need speaker training for CME #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @MedPedsDoctor - is that technology guiding learning or replacing evidence-based approaches? #smallgroups #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T1: For auditory response, use sounds familiar to discipline of learners, ie, sirens (ED), crying babies (maternity), etc. #cmechat

jjuch      "Hi everyone. Just got on. Sorry I'm late.

 #cmechat"

CMEChat             T2 Case Scenario 2: Live ‘lecture’ in a LARGE group setting (n&lt;200). How can we add realism &amp; engage the senses? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              #TOTD RT @aCMEstory: T1: For auditory, use sounds familiar to learners, ie, sirens (ED), crying babies (maternity), etc. #cmechat

aCMEstory          T2: Predispose and engage learners w/ appropriate #SoMe &amp; #edtech w/ tips and tools to prepare them for learning experience. #CMEchat

YogAlicia3            #cmechat Using taste can also be - try to eat a meal w xyz device that challenges your ADLs.

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan Gout patient participated in planning calls and slide review for 10 dinner meetings along with faculty. Used WebEx #cmechat

aCMEstory          T2: Use actors to represent healthcare stakeholders and create a narrative from the patient's perspective. t.co/USKu7e5ZpT  #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T2: w/ the 2nd topic we must consider costs, logistics of moving people, room control...and lack of intimacy? #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               T2.  confident speaker who knows material makes a world of difference.  Also, participants who WANT to be there, not "just because" #cmechat

brandeeplott     For nursing CE mtg, we actually put nurses in place of MS pt. Made them feel how MD pt felt. #cmechat

mbaffuto             T2: tech makes sense here. ipad on each table, internet tie in, etc. gets very expensive. #barrier #cmechat

mathena123       #CMEchat hey from London. I guess that you need to decide what you want to achieve. The tools can become gimmicky if not used with a purpose

BrianSMcGowan              T2: perhaps less opportunity to stand, sit, pass around, share, discuss in large settings...technology may be even more critical #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               This —&gt; MT @aCMEstory: Predispose &amp; engage learners w/ approp #SoMe &amp; #edtech w/ tips &amp; tools 2 prepare them for lrng experience #cmechat

brandeeplott     Cost is why web conferencing works well in live mtg setting. #cmechat

mbaffuto             Oh yeah. Innovate for the sake of innovation. @methena123 The tools can become gimmicky if not used with a purpose #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t2: but room sounds, sight lines, smells are (obviously) scalable...may be more critical for larger group settings? #CMEChat #meded #lrnchat

theCMEguy        T2: Tie in food served at meal with learning point of presentation. #CMEchat

jjuch      great suggestions but think key is knowing learner expectations for setting Lots of docs come to live CE and DON'T want engagement #cmechat

YogAlicia3            @mathena123 Agree. Prob part of why they're better in smaller groups. More control of experience. #cmechat

brandeeplott     I've been wanting to try incoporating Google Hangouts in live mtgs. #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               One issue w web conferencing is that the learner can always "opt out" by checking email, doing other things while "learning". #cmechat

jjuch      "Was talking to state assoc chapter recently who said when she tried to make sessions interactive was told ""go back to old way""

 #cmechat"

BrianSMcGowan              Ever watch surgeons cut their grilled chicken? RT @theCMEguy: T2: Tie in food served at meal with learning point of presentation. #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               "Eat healthy" (wow, check out this cheesecake!) RT @theCMEguy: T2: Tie in food served at meal with learning point of presentation. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              .@brandeeplott - raises the question as to whether virtual speakers can help or hurt when it comes to engaging senses/emotions? #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Participants often have bad attitude about engaging. We have to rewire their thinking on this. #cmechat

mathena123       @MedPedsDoctor is that a problem if they are not being engaged? #cmechat

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan No. Frankly, I've had some difficulty with eating chicken ever since my gross anatomy lab... #CMEchat

CMEChat             T2: any concerns about sensory distractions at live meetings? What can't we control? #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               all the more reason to optimize other methods RT @mathena123: @MedPedsDoctor is that a problem if they are not being engaged? #cmechat

brandeeplott     @mathena123 Great point! #cmechat

mbaffuto             need to set expectations for interactive session in large group (ie, symposium) with marketing materials #cmechat

jjuch      Agree How validate learner is there once signed on @MedPedsDoctor "issue w web conferencing is the learner can always "opt out"  #cmechat

theCMEguy        @brandeeplott Be careful with talk of "rewiring". Don't "force" participants to learn in ways they don't want. You'll only lose 'em #CMEchat

jjuch      Good pt RT @mbaffuto: need to set expectations for interactive session in large group (ie, symposium) with marketing materials #cmechat

CMEChat             ...seems to be a perfect segue shaping up here as we prepare for the 3rd topic #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @thecmeguy Yes, ate cat in Vietnam and could only think of college lab! #cmechat

mbaffuto             have had success with U shape seating for those who want to engage and classroom seating behind for those who want to observe #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               T2. Can't control wireless not working (note to ACEHP and hotel for next years presis on SoMe: make sure wireless works/backup) #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              #TMI #yuck RT @brandeeplott: @thecmeguy Yes, ate cat in Vietnam and could only think of college lab! #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               .@mbaffuto fascinating.  Has anyone ever written/published on U-shaped seating? #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @mbaffuto ...but in rooms with 200+? #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @mbaffuto But how big of a group can you realistically do that with? #CMEchat

CMEChat             T3 Scenario 3: Online learning module (non-live) w/ or w/o simulated patient video. How can we add realism &amp; engage the senses #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @thecmeguy Hmmm, good point. #cmechat

mathena123       #CMEchat a good speaker speaks to the audience and what they need the extras should only be there if they augment the experience.

BrianSMcGowan              T3: if we accept that educators have much less control, then online learning is more about creating sensory 'opportunities'...#CMEChat

aCMEstory          T2: In a group of 200+ break the group down by demographics and create competition. Right away it sets the tone... #CMEchat

brandeeplott     I read recently that painting a picture and telling a story to start off really stimulates senses. #SteveJobs #cmechat

mbaffuto             @thecmeguy gets difficult &gt;100. (&gt;50 in U). requires skilled facilitator and a lot of planning. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @mathena123 - watched.too many speakers &amp; CME folks giggle their way through gimmicks that do no more than distract learning. #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T3: Use a "call for cases" format to create learner-derived content that is highly relevant and semi-personalized. #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Competition works well for personality types who "like" competition.  For those who don't, automatic turn-off/disengagement ensues #cmechat

mbaffuto             @acmestory +1. Competitiveness is the 9th sense.  #cmechat

mathena123       #CMEchat I have been to some great events where keypads have been used for great needs assessments in the room

BrianSMcGowan              @aCMEstory - about expectation management...agree that this wld help, but how many learners would feel forced? #CMEchat #passiveplease?

brandeeplott     Always wanted to play around with having participants view slightly varied content based on pre-activity questions. #Relevancy #cmechat

aCMEstory          T3: Use audiovisual cues in #elearning so that learners know when topics, content is changing and remain engaged. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t3: one way that has been tried, but have yet to see much data is on 2nd life-ish virtual learning. #CMEChat

theCMEguy        T3: Need to provide a way for participant to engage, feel involved, ask questions. Opportunity for comments, #SoMe interaction, etc #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T3...sounds can be tough online, but you could allow learners to 'activate' a 'soundtrack' to support learning! #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               As an early adopter of audience response systems (ARS), I learned the hard way that writing good ARS ?s is definitely a skill #cmechat

YogAlicia3            @MedPedsDoctor #cmechat Gamification doesn't hafta be competitive. Maybe choose alternative game designs.

BrianSMcGowan              @MedPedsDoctor - and weaving ARS into a presentation is a skill too...too many fail to help learners reflect #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               agree! RT @YogAlicia3: @MedPedsDoctor #cmechat Gamification doesnt hafta be competitive. Maybe choose alternative game designs. #cmechat

brandeeplott     @medpedsdoctor I think having too many ARS questions actually puts them to sleep. #cmechat

beth333SP          I 1st used one at sm hosp in 1998, had a white paper for fac on how to... @MedPedsDoctor writing good ARS ?s is definitely a skill #cmechat

aCMEstory          @briansmcgowan  There will always be some passive participants who learn from observing, listening—engage at own comfort level #CMEchat

CMEChat             as we wrap up...there have been many great practical ideas shared...which brings us to topic 4 #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               To F/U on previous competitiveness comment: a good number of physicians are, nevertheless, highly competitive. #cmechat

CMEChat             T4: Did you pick up any useful tips or ideas today? If so, what changes are you prepared to make? #CMEchat #meded

JediPD  Anecdotes for Bookends filled with Substance in a Simple pragmatic manner works the best! #CMEChat (Interesting chat!)

aCMEstory          T3: Create faculty-led team-based "eCase challenges" and track both patient and team progress online. #CMEchat #motivatEd

brandeeplott     @medpedsdoctor Would be interesting to quadrant them out to see personality types. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t4: i will think alot about the sensory distractions...things w/i our control that distract learners! #CMEchat #overlooked

theCMEguy        T4: I will give more thought to room set-up and how it can be altered to improve participant experience #CMEchat

mbaffuto             T4: @brandeeplott have real patient interacting with faculty and provider in activity development. great suggestion. #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               T4. 1. read lit on gamification. 2. consider senses besides eyes in learning. 3. understand &amp; accept "can't please everyone" #cmechat

aCMEstory          T3: Have participants explain rationale for clin decisions in open text format, not just multiple choice questions and cases. #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Now I see what @BrianSMcGowan is doing.  I just tweeted my commitment to change as part of this chat! #cmechat

beth333SP          Sugg topic (or series of topics) 4 next week #CMEchat, Sunshine act and how providers are meeting req’s. Aug 1 will B here B4 we know it!

brandeeplott     @medpedsdoctor BTW - love your great tweets from various conferences recently. #cmechat

JediPD  T4: Storylines associated with data persist longer within the "knowledge pyramid" of the audience #CMEChat

MedPedsDoctor               I will reference this tweet —&gt; RT @brandeeplott: @medpedsdoctor BTW - love your great tweets from various conferences recently. #cmechat

aCMEstory          RT @beth333SP: Sugg topic (or series of topics) 4 next week #CMEchat, Sunshine act and how providers are meeting req’s. Aug 1 will B here B4 we know it!

BrianSMcGowan              @MedPedsDoctor - may be our new topic 4 or 5 every week...but this week was heavy on the new ideas! #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @jedipd Agreed. I will try this. #cmechat

CMEChat             Thanks for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of employers

CMEChat             As we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!

CMEChat             The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect &amp; take action on things you’ve learned!

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at t.co/EylNu0ipQF

aCMEstory          TOTD: MT @MedPedsDoctor: Now I see what @BrianSMcGowan is doing. I just tweeted my commitment to change as part of this chat! #cmechat

brandeeplott     Too many good tweets today to pick TOTD #cmechat #indecisive

JediPD  TOTD @MedPedsDoctor:1.read gamification. 2.consider senses besides eyes in learning. 3.understand &amp; accept "can't please everyone" #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               #TOTD RT @brandeeplott: Too many good tweets today to pick TOTD #cmechat #indecisive #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Thanks for a wonderful chat topic today, and a lively discussion.  Great points for future learning. #cmechat

A look back at CMEchat in 2013 - Wordle Style

I thought it might help to revisit the first 14 CMEchats of 2013 and visualize the conversation using the freely available Wordle platform. 

Without giving away each topic, see what you can learn from the visualized conversation...


And here are the original wordles if you are interested in accessing them directly!

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#CMEchat 71: The role of case studies and simulations in medical education

Another solid learning interaction from the #CMEchat-ters including a number of very practical suggestions on case studies vs role-playing vs simulations as a means of supporting medical education.

The topics for this week were as follows:

T1: What are the benefits of using case studies or simulations in medical education activities? Any downsides? #CMEchat

T2: There is a huge range b/w how some define as ‘case studies’ & ‘simulations’, how do you define each? Examples?  #CMEchat

T3: How important is feedback for learners ‘practicing’ w/case studies/simulation? Give some examples of feedback... #CMEchat

T4: With so many different models available, how do you decide what form of case study or simulation to employ? #CMEchat 

You can review the archive below, or download it HERE:

From User           Tweet

BrianSMcGowan              Please join #CMEchat 71 in 2 hours as we discuss the role of case studies and simulations in medical education #meded #edtech

BrianSMcGowan              Please join #CMEchat 71 in 60 minutes as we discuss the role of case studies and simulations in medical education #meded #edtech

BrianSMcGowan              Please join #CMEchat 71 in 25 minutes as we discuss the role of case studies and simulations in medical education #meded #edtech

Bonnycastle       RT @BrianSMcGowan: Please join #CMEchat 71 in 9 minutes as we discuss the role of case studies and simulations in medical education

aCMEstory          Likely to miss most of #CMEchat today. Look forward to the transcript. #meded

aCMEstory          "Medical simulation-based education improves medicos' clinical skills. t.co/M0oauEIQKW #CMEchat"

CMEChat             Welcome to #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of current, past, or future employers.

CMEChat             As we get started, please introduce yourself: Location? Focus? Favorite topics? What brings you here today? #CMEchat

CMEChat             A new question will be asked every 8-10 min or so. If you can, please include “T#” in related responses. #CMEchat

CMEChat             Please remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the participants can follow the #CMEchat discussion

CMEChat             Topics will guide the discussion, but real learning &amp; teaching lies in your tweets - please engage. #CMEchat

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived at t.co/EylNu0ipQF shortly after the session has ended.

BrianSMcGowan              Goooooooood Morning #CMEchat-ter. Brian here from the nearly spring-like Philadelphia region...looking forward to a great conversation!

triciawil Tricia here from rainy Cville.  Happy Monday! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              Just a reminder that today is the deadline for the #acehp14 call for abstracts: t.co/zi9I6dKnk7 #CMEchat

rmtyner               Michelle from indiana - looking forward to getting back to my routines after spring break in NYC #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              Hello to @rmtyner and @triciawil #CMEchat

beth333SP          #CMEchat Beth Brillinger, Director of Accreditation from CME Outfitters joining in. Ready to learn.

BrianSMcGowan              Lets give the late arrivers time to settle in...great theme today...and lots of good data to draw upon! Simulations &amp; Case Studies! #CMEchat

HaleyMarie3      Haley here from Ohio. Good morning!  #cmechat

Bonnycastle       Deirdre Bonnycastle Medical Faculty Developer Saskatchewan, Canada #CMEchat

aCMEstory          Teaching med students a clin approach to altered mental status:simulation enhances curriculum. t.co/Z0B6WSRtsb #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              Good morning to @Bonnycastle @HaleyMarie3 and @beth333SP #CMEchat

CMEChat             As normal we will begin with a general topic...to get our juices flowing! #CMEchat

CMEChat             T1: What are the benefits of using case studies or simulations in #meded activities? Any downsides? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: i like to think of simulation and cases as stories...they allow the learners to play the role of protagonist #CMEchat

rmtyner               T1 I think that case studies and simulations can improve knowledge translation into practice-if learners can relate to the patient #cmechat

Bonnycastle       #CMEchat Cases bring relevance to basic sciences and ideally teach higher order thinking

HaleyMarie3      T1: Bring the education to life, make it more relatable to real life #meded #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: both simulations and case studies force the planners to think through the scenarios...must offer authenticity! #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       #CMEchat Downside- Good cases and simulations take time and knowledge to develop

BrianSMcGowan              Latter point is critical! RT @Bonnycastle: #CMEchat Cases bring relevance to basic sciences and ideally teach higher order thinking

triciawil T1 Case studies give a different context to learning; retention may be higher due to relatability #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: the authenticity of case or simulation may not always be portable...may require very local knowledge in some cases. #CMEchat

rmtyner               T1 downside: if the case is too general then the learners may not engage #cmechat

Bonnycastle       #CMEchat In our new curriculum we are developing 50 Integrated cases to try and help students develop pattern understanding &amp; making

BrianSMcGowan              T1: the learner engagement that is required may turn off some learners who expect passive education...sadly. #CMEchat

SteveFmke         @BrianSMcGowan How are you differentiating case studies from simulations? #CMEchat

awinkler58          Red it! RT @BrianSMcGowan: "Effective Use of Educational Technology in Medical Education"  t.co/LDGn38lqwn #meded #CMEchat

CMEChat             @SteveFmke ;-) next topic...#CMEchat

triciawil T1 We have a great cath conference we do that is solely case studies.  Many are unique scenarios and make for great discussion. #cmechat

rmtyner               @BrianSMcGowan we need to do a better job of transitioning from passive education to active education #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: on the other hand the interactivity of case studies allows for very unique data to be gathered...formatively. #CMEchat

SteveFmke         @CMEChat T2: Defining case studies vs. simulations. For cognitive specialties they can often be the same thing. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @rmtyner -...and we MUST manage the expectation of learners before the sessions begins. Unfair otherwise. #security #CMEchat

CMEChat             T2: There is a huge range b/w how some define as ‘case studies’ &amp; ‘simulations’, how do you define each? Examples?  #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       Case studies more paper/webbased Simulation more role playing #CMEchat

rmtyner               @BrianSMcGowan totally agree - there can't be a #baitandswitch  #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T2: I would love to find some concensus on describing a threshold...if they are really a continuum? #CMEchat

triciawil T2 I define simulations as "live" action as opposed to archived (most cases).  #cmechat

rmtyner               T2 my definition is that many case studies are amalgam of multiple scenarios; simulation walks the learner through a single patient #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t2: in my experience educators seem to describe case studies as an entrypoint to simulation...but not always #CMEchat

beth333SP          T2 Case studies = watch a scene unfold. Simulation = be a part of the scene (which may include own heart rate increasing, sweat)  #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @triciawil - do you mean 'live' as in 'synchronous' or as in 'in person'? #CMEchat

SteveFmke         #CMEchat A well-written online case study that requires active decision making can become a simulation. Both should allow for some role play

BrianSMcGowan              @beth333SP - i like this answer as much as any other I have heard...#CMEchat

triciawil @BrianSMcGowan Synchronous #cmechat

beth333SP          Thanks! @BrianSMcGowan: @beth333SP - i like this answer as much as any other I have heard...#CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T2: the neurophysiology of storytelling allows the learner (reader) to react much the same way as the protagonist. #endorphins #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t2: so in theory we could measure how authentic a case study or simulation is by measuring hormone levels. #level8 #CMEchat

SteveFmke         @beth333SP Sims are great for crisis role playing but are needed for routine patient care practice too. Simple is good! #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t2: i have seen many case studies that are more emotionally engaging than other simulations...tis why definitions are hard. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t2: several folks have mentioned 'role-playing' ...so perhaps all three terms are interoperable for some? #CMEchat

triciawil @BrianSMcGowan Difference is involvement (hands on vs observing) of learner in the sim?  #cmechat

Bonnycastle       Not a lot of hormones in stitching a piece of plastic yet that is an important simulation #CMEchat

beth333SP          Or HR, Resp, BP, biofeedback. Instead of lie detector, build a learn detector. @BrianSMcGowan: t2 ...by measuring hormone levels #CMEchat

SteveFmke         #CMEchat How about: a case study is rehearsal of a single care issue. A simulation is rehearsal of a full patient encounter.

BrianSMcGowan              RT @RonanTKavanagh: @shimmerresearch has used biosensors to assess people physiological response to diff film endings in movies.. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @Bonnycastle ...but if you could pipe in crying baby sounds and have the simulator start squirting blood unexpectedly...#CMEchat

SteveFmke         @Bonnycastle Good point - sims can be used as skill development. Skills can mean patient communication, right? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              #TOTY RT @beth333SP: Or HR, Resp, BP, biofeedback. Instead of lie detector, build a learn detector. #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       @BrianSMcGowan #CMEchat but that would be unfair to a beginner who needs to practice the mundane

SteveFmke         @SteveFmke Both are acting exercises. One is one beat, one if the whole scene. #CMEchat

CMEChat             T3: How important is feedback for learners ‘practicing’ w/case studies/simulation? Give some examples of feedback.... #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @Bonnycastle - fair enough...true. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              on Role-playing: RT @SteveFmke: Both are acting exercises. One is one beat, one if the whole scene. #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       @SteveFmke Exactly my point there is a continuum from simple to complex in both cases and simulations #CMEchat

triciawil T3 Very.  Especially during.  For example, stopping periodically during a case to ask WWYD.  #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t3: feedback may actually be a great way to differentiate b/w cases and simulation...does feedback come from w/i the scene? #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       T3 #CMEchat debriefing is essential in both, good feedback makes the experience

HaleyMarie3      T3: polling during the activity to get feedback from learners  #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t3: for example...feedback may be delivered in tactile ways: Haptic technology: t.co/TnXYRYKfLP #simulations #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       @HaleyMarie3 good point encourage polling in cases especially #CMEchat

rmtyner               T3 feedback is critical maybe that could be the differentiation between case study and simulation #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              you went to other way...but critical too! #learners RT @HaleyMarie3: T3: polling during the activity to get feedback from learners  #cmechat

beth333SP          T3 Example: Patient actors teaching clinicians how to communicate a terminal dx. No one can know how to do this w/out practice. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T3: in role-playing the feedback should, as much as possible, come from w/i the scenario...colleagues, patients vs instructors. #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       @BrianSMcGowan #CMEchat peer feedback is also an ungoing reality of group cases

BrianSMcGowan              T3: in case studies feedback can be linear (independent) or adaptive (dependent) - both are good, won is better ;-) #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              Great conversation...high TPM...keep it up as I begin to introduce our fourth topic! #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       The #1 topic physicians want help with is giving feedback well #CMEchat -learned skill

BrianSMcGowan              t3: i love this theme in general b/c, perhaps more than any other educational model, the educator MUST plan rigorously. #CMEchat

CMEChat             T4: With so many different models available, how do you decide what form of case study or simulation to employ? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @Bonnycastle as far as becoming a teacher, or delivering care? or both? #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       #CMEchat LOL being an educator I always go back to objectives what is it you want the participant to learn and what is the best tool. T4

BrianSMcGowan              t4: one of the simple answers to how to decide is undoubtedly going to be cost...&amp; timing...but surely there are other reasons too #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       @BrianSMcGowan Sorry I work with them in their role of teacher #CMEchat

beth333SP          T4 Recipes vary, consider topic, aud, gaps, LO's, what can be changed? (make 1change?) measured? reinforced? short term? Long term? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t4: is it fair to say that case studies emphasize decision making skills, simulations emphasize psychomotor skills #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @Bonnycastle - i thought as much...critical point! Thanks. #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       @BrianSMcGowan simulations also improve communication #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @beth333SP - does that mean that there is definitive comparative data to support each of those decision points? #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Jumping in late.  T4. Most simulations also include decision making while incorporating psychomotor skills #cmechat

CMEChat             Next week, would we be interested in a fun topic about engaging our learners through engaging their senses in unexpected ways? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @MedPedsDoctor - thanks for joining...can you draw for yourself a clear line b/w case studies and simulations? #CMEchat

beth333SP          That is the goal @BrianSMcGowan: does that mean that there is definitive comparative data to support each of those decision points? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              and scents..and creative tension! RT @Bonnycastle: @CMEChat Great idea! Thinking a lot about music and art in meded #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Nope.  Simulations are "case studies": case of a pt w X, for which we are studying how you interact w Y (machine or persons). #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T2/4 it is interesting that the Peabody data around case vignettes (mini cases) - shows such strong correlation to practice. #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       @BrianSMcGowan Another difference between cases and simulation - Can do cases fairly easily with large classes tougher with sim #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @MedPedsDoctor - so it is the interactivity with external agents that makes a simulation a simulation? #worksforme #CMEchat

SteveFmke         @MedPedsDoctor So are PBL activities case studies or simulations? Not all pt encounters require alot of motor skills. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @Bonnycastle - thought about that too...but i could have 500 folks break into a roleplaying exercise, no? #AbAbAbAb #CMEchat ;-)

CMEChat             Thanks for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of employers

CMEChat             As we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!

CMEChat             The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect &amp; take action on things you’ve learned!

alliance4cehp     RT @BrianSMcGowan: Just a reminder that today is the deadline for the #acehp14 call for abstracts: t.co/zi9I6dKnk7 #CMEchat

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at t.co/EylNu0ipQF

MedPedsDoctor               Our sim center includes a part w "external agents" (mannequins, ventilators), &amp; a part w rooms for interaction betw people #cmechat

Bonnycastle       @BrianSMcGowan Lol I've seen that tried very noisy and convoluted - Second Life #CMEchat

SteveFmke         @BrianSMcGowan Agents external to whom? Patient? Provider? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @SteveFmke ...i would think external to the learner...once you add an interaction w/ an external agent you are 'simulating'... #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               My point is that case studies is the larger circle, of which simulation falls w/in it.  All sim are cases, but not all cases R sim #cmechat

SteveFmke         @BrianSMcGowan Then provider interacting with imagined pt is an external factor. That's common to cases and simulations. #CMEchat

Bonnycastle       @SteveFmke Our PBL are case studies but I could see how they might be done as sims if we were working with smaller numbers #CMEchat

SteveFmke         @MedPedsDoctor Doesn't it depend on what you're trying to simulate? #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               @SteveFmke correct.  #cmechat

#CMEchat 70: The effective use of technology by the CME community

Another fast paced #CMEchat in the books...great conversation with any number of barriers clearly identified and forward looking prognoses on the future of educational  technology supporting the CME community being shared.

Our topics for this week were as follows (we skipped T4):

T1: What are your “can’t live without” pieces of technology and how do you use them to enhance your Personal Learning Network? #CMEchat 
T2: What recent advances in technology have you seen incorporated into CME/CPD? Where is CME community lagging behind? #CMEchat 
T3: What are some of the barriers faced for implementing new technologies in education? w/ learners? w/ faculty? #CMEchat 
T5: Look into ur crystal ball, what impact do you see emerging technological advances having on the delivery of CME in the future? #CMEchat 

The Archive can be viewed below or downloaded HERE:

From User           Tweet

BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 3 hours for #CMEchat 70: "The effective use of technology by the CME community" 11AM ET. #meded #edtech

BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 2 hours  for #CMEchat 70: "The effective use of technology by the CME community" 11AM ET. #meded #edtech

elearningCME    Sorry to miss #cmechat today "The effective use of technology by the CME community" Great topic...look forward to catching up on the archive

BrianSMcGowan              Join us in 60 minutes for #CMEchat 70: "The effective use of technology by the CME community" 11AM ET. #meded #edtech

CMEChat             Join us in 20 Minutes for #CMEchat 70: "The effective use of technology by the CME community" 11AM ET. #meded #edtech

CMEChat             Welcome to #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of current, past, or future employers.

CMEChat             As we get started, please introduce yourself: Location? Focus? Favorite topics? What brings you here today? #CMEchat

CMEChat             A new question will be asked every 8-10 min or so. If you can, please include “T#...” in related responses. #CMEchat

CMEChat             Please remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the participants can follow the #CMEchat discussion

CMEChat             Topics will guide the discussion, but real learning &amp; teaching lies in your tweets - please engage. #CMEchat

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived at t.co/EylNu0ipQF shortly after the session has ended.

BrianSMcGowan              Good morning to the #CMEchat-ters...great topic today on a beautiful day in the NE of the US! Brian here moderating, participating!

meducate           #CMEchat Lawrence joining from Rome today - in between meetings

theCMEguy        Derek here in warm and sunny Chestnut Hill. Looking forward to today's topic! #CMEchat

theCMEguy        RT @meducate: #CMEchat Lawrence joining from Rome today - in between meetings

theCMEguy        Are the Mets on a road trip? RT @meducate: #CMEchat Lawrence joining from Rome today - in between meetings

triciawil Tricia from sunny &amp; warm Cville!  I can only participate for a bit but I'm here.  #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              G'morning to derek and lawrence...#CMEchat spans from Charlottesville to Rome...

MedPedsDoctor               I should be on for a short time; Alex Djuricich, from sunny Indianapolis, excited about the topic of technology! #cmechat

theCMEguy        @MedPedsDoctor Hey Alex! #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              Is it sunny everywhere? or is that just a perk of being a #CMEchat-ter?

HaleyMarie3      Haley here from Ohio, good morning!  #cmechat

meducate           #CMEchat hiya Alex @MedPedsDoctor

BrianSMcGowan              Today we are reaching back into the vault and revisiting a topic that we covered in #CMEchat 23: Technology and the CME profession #edtech

MedPedsDoctor               There is nothing that warms my heart more on a Monday than the "rowboat of goodness": AKA @theCMEguy #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @MedPedsDoctor @theCMEguy ...is it just me, or does it appear that Derek is trying to row away from us though? #CMEchat

CMEChat             T1: What are your “can’t live without” pieces of technology and how do you use them to enhance your Personal Learning Network? #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan @MedPedsDoctor Not seen in this pic...Derek having no idea what he's doing and 5 minutes later losing an oar #CMEchat

aCMEstory          'Morning. Greselda checking in, ready to be schooled on tech in in CME. #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               there is also the joy of hearing from the mentor of mentors: @meducate Greetings from this side of the Atlantic! #cmechat

brandeeplott     Good morning! Brandee Plott here! #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: I could go through them each, but @C4LPT does a great job collating all of my faves! t.co/qYBKlbrQ68 #CMEchat #edtech ;-)

meducate           #CMEchat T1 I cannot do what I do without my iPhone, iPad and, gulp, in some cases, my laptop. From point of education to point of care

theCMEguy        T1: This is very broad, but having a smartphone has changed how I learn immensely. #CMEchat

triciawil T1:  Definitely my iPhone.  Twitter &amp; news apps, especially.  #cmechat

meducate           Wow! RT @MedPedsDoctor: there is also the joy of hearing frm mentor of mentors: @meducate Greetings frm this side of the Atlantic! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t1: IMO, the tech that gets overlooked the most is WiFi...it redefines the walls of the universal classroom in time &amp; space #CMEchat

theCMEguy        T1: Armed with my phone and laptop (MacBook Air), I feel like and can do pretty much anything (well, within reason...) #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               "Can't-live-without-it" piece of technology: Mobile tablet.  Because of this, we're having an ENTIRE conference about this! #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Mobile tablets in medical education: t.co/RYELauhLSw 5/31/13.  It will be awesome! #cmechat

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan Good point. Something we don't think about until we don't have. Planners of conferences, please take note! #CMEchat

theCMEguy        RT @MedPedsDoctor: Mobile tablets in medical education: t.co/RYELauhLSw 5/31/13.  It will be awesome! #cmechat

michaelbmoore                RT @MedPedsDoctor: Mobile tablets in medical education: t.co/RYELauhLSw 5/31/13.  It will be awesome! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: taking the idea of WiFi a step further...i now live and learn almost exclusively in the 'cloud' = my external brain! #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T1: The Internet! eTOCs and saved searches on PubMed are critical for me to curate new information and prioritize learning. #CMEchat

HaleyMarie3      T1: iphone for pulse news, twitter, facebook #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Someday, wireless will be available at conferences without costing the equivalent of the GDP of a small country. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @MedPedsDoctor - do u have a learning room reporter for your meeting...someone assigned to tweet and share? from a mobile device? #CMEchat

brandeeplott     I cannot do without my Hootsuite mobile app. #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               .@aCMEstory Can you give one example of one of your favorite saved searches? #cmechat

theCMEguy        I'm still a TweetDeck guy RT @brandeeplott: I cannot do without my Hootsuite mobile app. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @aCMEstory - T1: the idea of saved searches...through pubmed or google alerts...not only allows awareness, but archive too! #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               .@BrianSMcGowan We sure do.  We even are working on finalizing this: t.co/aNL4j91A4v #cmechat

theCMEguy        T1: WordPress is a can't live without tool for me, too. #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Isn't TweetDeck being phased out? #cmechat

aCMEstory          @medpedsdoctor Sure. sensor based technology in medicine. You'd be surprised what you get back! #CMEchat

meducate           #CMEchat T1 the theme, therefore is the Internet, connected via wifi/phone, via portable devices. Ok, T2? :)

BrianSMcGowan              T1: i use public PubMed collections, including "Social Media in Medicine" t.co/BeQU5T6q6B #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Have saved entire rain forests with Evernote. No more stickies! #cmechat

aCMEstory          @thecmeguy And what fine work you accomplish with it. Love that blog! #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t1: perhaps even more specific than WordPress, I use the 'Press This' widget to archive any resources I find! #CMEchat

giasison                Bingo! RT @meducate: #CMEchat T1 the theme, therefore is the Internet, connected via wifi/phone, via portable devices. Ok, T2? :)

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan Do you do it straight through PubMed or via a 3rd part app? #CMEchat

CMEChat             T2: What recent advances in Tech have you seen incorporated into CME/CPD? Where is CME community lagging behind? #CMEchat cc: @meducate

MedPedsDoctor               @Evernote rocks! RT @brandeeplott: Have saved entire rain forests with Evernote. No more stickies!  #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              NCBI RT @theCMEguy: @BrianSMcGowan Do you do it straight through PubMed or via a 3rd part app? #CMEchat

meducate           #CMEchat I struggle with the lack of free local storage of notes with Evernote

theCMEguy        Aw, shucks #blush RT @aCMEstory: @thecmeguy And what fine work you accomplish with it. Love that blog! #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan I used to do saved searches via Google Reader #RIP #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               T2. Utilizing QR codes for links to archived RSS, such as Grand Rounds.  Haven't just seen it; have DONE it! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t2: this question is still a bit of a dissappointment to me...especially if I look for successful application of tech in CME...#CMEchat

spelletier             t2 just had this conversation the other day with someone looking for good examples—hard to find #cmechat

aCMEstory          T2: Use of medical simulation software in surgical (and other) settings has been a cool newer development in CME. #CMEchat

theCMEguy        .@MedPedsDoctor Have you seen this thread on QR codes in the CME LinkedIn group? t.co/FbphBcYkcX #CMEchat

spelletier             Anyone using e-posters? Just saw it for the first time not long ago and thought it a cool idea #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T2: jbeginning to layer to layer virtual classrooms on top of live mtgs...creates a safe digital back channel &amp; archive at once! #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Yes, Derek, I have.  It is interesting. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T2: does anyone consider Prezi to be a "technological advance" or just another way to be didactic? #CMEchat #devilsadvocate

HaleyMarie3      T2: Social sharing widgets part of online CME formats  #cmechat

meducate           #CMEchat T2 I look more for better application of existing technologies. I can wait for nanoCME if we could get better PoC education.

MedPedsDoctor               .@spelletier link for "e-poster", if you have it?  Is there a definition of e-poster? #cmechat

brandeeplott     Visual and video content! So powerful but CME industry doesn't really use it much in education. #cmechat

dlwdillon              RT @MedPedsDoctor: .@BrianSMcGowan We sure do.  We even are working on finalizing this: t.co/aNL4j91A4v #cmechat

theCMEguy        T2: No surprise CME lagging behind. ARS has been around for years and how often do you see it used "well" at a CME conf? #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T2: I don't think the lag in ed tech is an awareness issue, but a cost issue. Pooled resources could create cost-effective options. #CMEchat

meducate           #CMEchat T2 @BrianSMcGowan Platforms don't move didactic to active, educators do.

MedPedsDoctor               The tech is only as good as those who use it/want to use it.  Chats such as this, or even better those w pts —&gt; true communities! #cmechat

theCMEguy        @brandeeplott True. How many CME orgs have something as simple as a YouTube channel? #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @HaleyMarie3 - wouldn't it be great if we could truly share learning efficiently and broadly...still seems novel to so many! #CMEchat

theCMEguy        T2: Does anyone think issues of accreditation hold us back from using advances in tech? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @aCMEstory in my opinion: Creativity barrier &gt;&gt;&gt; awareness barrier &gt;&gt; cost barrier #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Love the use of virtual patients but rarely used in live meetings. The technology is there! #cmechat

aCMEstory          T2: Would love to see use of TedEd "Lessons Worth Sharing" catch on for CME community! #motivation #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @thecmeguy Somewhat. But there are few industries that aren't regulated by something. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @theCMEguy - yes. but see my last tweet...i would think this is pretty low on the list of barriers...#CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Have to resist the urge to use the "latest &amp; greatest" tech—just for the sake of using it!  But wow, do I love my mobile tablet! #cmechat

CMEChat             Since the conversation has already started to move here....here is topic 3 on barriers! #CMEchat

aCMEstory          @briansmcgowan You may be right, but the latter can be a powerful deterrent to creativity. #CMEchat

CMEChat             T3: What are some of the barriers faced for implementing new technologies in education? w/ learners? w/ faculty? #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan If commercially supported, cost barrier is key. #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Barriers are created so that creative folks can find innovative solutions #cmechat

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan It just adds another layer of complexity which combined with cost &amp; resistance of others created a lag in usage #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Isn't resistance to change the ultimate barrier? #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @brandeeplott sure...but it seems that there are thousands of #edtech applications that are cost neutral or cost saving. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T2/T3: if the focus were truly on evidence-based education than innovation would be essential to the 'CME profession', no? #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T3: Ingrained behaviors that "we've always done this, it worked, so why change it?" Reassess what "works" in an evolving landscape. #CMEchat

brandeeplott     We sometimes fail to convey the value of new technologies or a true strategy for using them. #cmechat

theCMEguy        @MedPedsDoctor Some of the most fun I've had in CME is working around barriers. A lack of barriers can cause a lack of creativity #CMEchat

HaleyMarie3      T3: Cost of the technology RT @CMEChat: T3: What are some of the barriers faced for implementing new technologies in education? #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Here's a great example of using tech: the Assoc of Ped Prog Directors mtg is this week.  Created an app.  It's awesome. #cmechat

spelletier             t3 can be budgetary barriers, plus learning curve for learners to figure out how to use #cmechat

brandeeplott     Marketers incorrectly start with tactics all the time. We do the same in education. #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               @APPD app for the upcoming meeting with @COMSEPediatrics : t.co/GhvZfsAyxD  #cmechat

CMEChat             T3: in no order our barriers are: resistance to change, cost, regulations, creativity deficiency, learners &amp; faculty discomfort. #CMEchat

theCMEguy        Restriction &amp; Creativity: What The CME Community Can Learn From Jack White t.co/GcWP7kxPQI #CMEchat

spelletier             #TOTD @theCMEguy Some of the most fun Ive had in CME is working around barriers. A lack of barriers can cause a lack of creativity #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               what should we start with? RT @brandeeplott: Marketers incorrectly start with tactics all the time. We do the same in education. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t3: learners need a safe and familiar learning environment, but they also need to be nudged to learn more efficiently #CMEchat #meded (1/2)

spelletier             t3 plus time to learn to use (staff and learners) #cmechat

brandeeplott     @thecmeguy Great post. #cmechat

HaleyMarie3      RT @theCMEguy: Restriction &amp; Creativity: What The CME Community Can Learn From Jack White t.co/4oJrlCvf2O #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Never waste a good crisis/barrier as an opportunity to be creative/innovate! #cmechat

spelletier             Goals come first, then match tactic that will most likely get u there RT @MedPedsDoctor: what should we start with? RT  #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t3: IMO it's a professional obligation to not be paralyzed by new tech. Must lead learners &amp; fauclty into the future #CMEchat #meded (1/2)

brandeeplott     @spelletier Plus, instructors need to be able to teach it. #cmechat

aCMEstory          T3: As our competencies grow as healthcare educators, those barriers seem to fall away, yielding a better product. #CMEchat #leanforward

GoldCareInMed               @brandeeplott YES! Strategy for using technologies is KEY! #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              #TOTD RT @aCMEstory: T3: As competencies grow as educators, barriers seem to fall away, yielding a better product. #CMEchat &gt;&gt; #Amen

MedPedsDoctor               Hmmm!  In a parallel world, this chat happening 20-25 years ago discussed email as the new tech!  How far we've come ... #cmechat

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan I agree, but it's not always easy. Some people don't just resist new tech; they get angry about it. #CMEchat

GoldCareInMed               RT @MedPedsDoctor: Never waste a good crisis/barrier as an opportunity to be creative/innovate! #cmechat

aCMEstory          @briansmcgowan So true. Combining the natural learning actions with effective reinforcement tactics can move the needle. #CMEchat #SocialQI

brandeeplott     Healthcare educators must be willing to try things and learn from failures. #cmechat

CMEChat             Great conversation so far —&gt; Keep it going while we cue up the final topic for the day! #CMEchat

theCMEguy        Senior management, take note... RT @brandeeplott: Healthcare educators must be willing to try things and learn from failures. #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               "Learning from failures" by the Chicago Cubs, w a foreward by the Pittsburgh Pirates. #cmechat

aCMEstory          @medpedsdoctor I just pictured everyone sitting at my meetings w/ giant cell phones and discussing the newfangled world wide web. #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @MedPedsDoctor er...what have they learned exactly? How to fail better? :-) #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @MedPedsDoctor - some of us...like those on the #CMEchat...but how many of our learners &amp; faculty still want simple lecture. #Flexner

aCMEstory          @brandeeplott Agreed. Let's take it a step further and report our failures so others can learn and avoid pitfalls/waste. #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Actually, a gr8 example of learning from failures: LA Clippers. #cmechat

theCMEguy        .@aCMEstory @medpedsdoctor t.co/dz4NhqNx2Z #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @medpedsdoctor Rick Pitino's Book Rebound Rules is classic example of this. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              W/o failure there is no evolution! RT @brandeeplott: Healthcare educators must be willing to try things and learn from failures. #cmechat

aCMEstory          RT @MedPedsDoctor: Never waste a good crisis/barrier as an opportunity to be creative/innovate! #cmechat

theCMEguy        Yes, better RT @MedPedsDoctor: Actually, a gr8 example of learning from failures: LA Clippers. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              RT @MedPedsDoctor: "Learning from failures" by the Chicago Cubs, w a foreward by the Pittsburgh Pirates. #cmechat cc: @WashingtonGenerals

MedPedsDoctor               This will be the journal article of the future: #meded intervention that shows NO impact. #cmechat

meducate           #cmechat Without failures how would we know what successes were?

brandeeplott     But we must be careful to use our failures to grow instead of dwelling on them. #cmechat

CMEChat             T5: Look into ur crystal ball, what impact do you see emerging technological advances having on the delivery of CME in the future? #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Q:What makes a 4-star movie 4 stars? A: Dumb&amp;Dumber RT @meducate: #cmechat Without failures how would we know what successes were? #cmechat

rmtyner               #cmechat random thought: we need to create education and measurement that is for the benefit of learners and not our needs as a community

theCMEguy        T5: Well, since this one is teed up for me: This is the Future of CME t.co/HYyLtrzdVx #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t5: "UC Irvine Students Using iPads to Learn Scored 23% Higher on Exams" t.co/2jyognMIdz #CMEchat —&gt; the good (1/2)

brandeeplott     Access to information almost instant. This means clinicians more knowledgeable and we must keep content relevant #cmechat

theCMEguy        #CMEchat RT @meducate: T5 I see tech impacting more than just delivery...I see it impacting the continuum of education if we do it right

BrianSMcGowan              T5: Incorporating iPads into a preclinical curriculum: A pilot study. t.co/xw6YQDgSL8 #CMEchat —&gt; the bad (2/2)

MedPedsDoctor               . @rmtyner Need both.  Our needs as a community is why HC providers are here in the first place.  Top of Moore pyramid. #cmechat

aCMEstory          T5: #Connectedlearning —&gt; #Connectedhealthcare &gt; #Systemsbarriers #CMEchat

brandeeplott     More simulations via iPads. Saw multiple articles just the other day. #cmechat

theCMEguy        T5: Advances in tech that make sharing educational content w/ an open-ended number of potential learners easier, faster, &amp; cheaper #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T5: here is one of my collated resource sets around educational technology pilots: t.co/JgTNF75qvn #meded #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @aCMEstory - love love love love your #TOTD. Through connected learning, lessons learned once can be learned permanently! #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T5: #FOAMed is the future? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              T5: should atleast throw out the idea of @IBMwatson with a #socialQI spin = future of #meded and #CMEchat

aCMEstory          @briansmcgowan You are a virtual fount of info today! Thanks. #CMEchat

CMEChat             Thanks for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of employers

MedPedsDoctor               #FOAMed is the future: as is Promotion and Tenure acknowledging SoMe/blogs. #cmechat

CMEChat             As we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!

CMEChat             The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect &amp; take action on things you’ve learned!

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at t.co/EylNu0ipQF

meducate           #cmechat Arivederci from Roma!  Ciao...!  Grazie mille @BrianSMcGowan et al

brandeeplott     RT @rmtyner: #cmechat random thought: we need to create education and measurement that is for the benefit of learners and not our needs as a community

#CMEchat 69: Why is feedback so important in learning?

If you have ever participated in a tweetchat before you may have gotten a sense that some are too small - the conversation never has a chance of bringing new information or new perspective - and some are too large - the stream is so noisy that it is nearly impossible to engage in any meaningful way. 

I would like to propose that today's CMEchat was as close to perfect as you could get. The size of the audience was just right, the topics seemed to truly engage, and the feedback that we shared was truly meaningful. My thanks go out to the fellow chatters for contributing so critically to the conversation!

The topics for today were as follows:

  • A recent publication suggested that feedback is MORE important to learning than learning format…#CMEchat  http://ow.ly/jD0Ky
  • T1 – Why is feedback so important in learning? #CMEchat
  • T2 – What are the best approaches to providing feedback in live educational activities for small groups of 10 - 50? #CMEchat
  • T3 – What are the best approaches to providing feedback in live educational activities for large groups of 100+? #CMEchat
  • T4 – What are the best approaches of providing feedback in ‘asynchronous’ educational activities? Print? Online? Mobile? #CMEchat

The archive can be reviewed below or downloaded HERE:

From User           Tweet

BrianSMcGowan              #CMEchat this week: "Why is feedback so important in learning?" ** 3 hours from now! ** #meded #lrnchat #medstudents

BrianSMcGowan              #CMEchat this week: "Why is feedback so important in learning?" ** Just 2 hours from now! ** #meded #lrnchat #medstudents

BrianSMcGowan              #CMEchat this week: "Why is feedback so important in learning?" ** Just 30 minutes! from now! ** #meded #lrnchat #medstudents

CMEChat             Welcome to #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of current, past, or future employers.

CMEChat             As we get started, please introduce yourself: Location? Focus? Favorite topics? What brings you here today? #CMEchat

CMEChat             A new question will be asked every 8-10 min or so. If you can, please include “T#...” in related responses. #CMEchat

CMEChat             Please remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the participants can follow the #CMEchat discussion

brandeeplott     Brandee Plott here. #CMEchat

CMEChat             Topics will guide the discussion, but real learning &amp; teaching lies in your tweets - please engage. #CMEchat

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived at t.co/874lRuReBT shortly after the session has ended.

rmtyner               @theCMEguy best data set that i have seen in a long time :) #CMEchat

theCMEguy        DW here in sunny Chestnut Hill #CMEchat

rmtyner               Michelle from Indiana - very eager for a busy, busy week #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              Good mornimg #CMEchat-ters and welcome to the 69th session...please be on the lookout for April Fool's day Jokes.

aCMEstory          Good morning fellow #CMEchat-ters. Greselda checking in.

BrianSMcGowan              A recent publication suggested that feedback is MORE important to learning than learning format. #CMEchat Abstract: t.co/szrnXHTolZ

meducate           #CMEchat Hello from Citi Field. Ah, Opening Day

CMEChat             Today we'll try to explore the question: "Why is feedback so important in learning?" (and understand how to do it effectively) #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan The nerve of some people... #cmechat

aCMEstory          A student-centred feedback model for educators. Importance of responsiveness, receptiveness and reflection. t.co/yQoXTUecEp #CMEchat

rmtyner               Mattie is waiting with baited breath for this week's #cmechat t.co/dkGPHWOtT4

aCMEstory          Student perceptions of assessment and feedback in longitudinal integrated clerkships. t.co/v0PzolrqMN #CMEchat #constructivist

theCMEguy        I'm so sorry... RT @meducate: #CMEchat Hello from Citi Field. Ah, Opening Day

BrianSMcGowan              Let's give the late arrivers a few more seconds to arrive...and perhaps @HaleyMarie3 will be signing copies of #medmeetings? #CMEchat

meducate           #CMEchat @BrianSMcGowan thanks for the feedback.  I'll consider it and reflect.

BrianSMcGowan              Does anyone else actively google the #CMEchat topic in real time, or that just something @aCMEstory does. (#goldstar!)

CMEChat             T1 - Let's begin at the beginning– Why is feedback so important in learning? #CMEchat

meducate           #CMEchat Wow, can no one appreciate loyalty to a team? #metsfanforever

rmtyner               T1 feedback is how we grow as individuals #CMEchat

myCME                The Macy Foundation document that caused controversy a few yrs back had some great content on reflective learning. #CMEchat

theCMEguy        Sure, just not THAT team. RT @meducate: #CMEchat Wow, can no one appreciate loyalty to a team? #metsfanforever

BrianSMcGowan              t1: building on recent #CMEchat sessions, Feedback is important b/c of how effectively it focuses a learner's perception of need.

brandeeplott     It helps provide a benchmark #cmechat

giasison                @meducate Classic! Will be lurking around #CMEchat First timer here!

aCMEstory          T1: Appropriate feedback can lead to reflection, behavior change, improved competence and confidence in clinical decision-making. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t1: feedback provide learners with a new benchmark of where they were vs where they are...provides awareness...provides structure. #CMEchat

meducate           Everyone welcome Gia! — RT @giasison: @meducate Classic! Will be lurking around #CMEchat First timer here!

CMEChat             "Thx for joining us!

RT @giasison: @meducate Classic! Will be lurking around #CMEchat First timer here!"

theCMEguy        T1: In the bowling alley of learning, feedback provides the bumpers #CMEchat #bumperbowling

theCMEguy        Hi Gia! RT @meducate: Everyone welcome Gia! — RT @giasison: @meducate Classic! Will be lurking around #CMEchat First timer here!

aCMEstory          TOTD: @theCMEguy T1: In the bowling alley of learning, feedback provides the bumpers #CMEchat #bumperbowling

BrianSMcGowan              t1: feedback may be a broad brush too: Do we mean objective, subjective, temporally comparative, cross-comparative? Diff flavors. #CMEchat

rmtyner               "T1 i think that the feedback should be tailored to the individual when possible

 #CMEchat"

BrianSMcGowan              @theCMEguy - love the analogy...but sounds of pins banging, sight of pins falling, scoreboard = feedback too! #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @rmtyner Can you give an example of feedback not tailored to individual? #cmechat

aCMEstory          T1: Because in healthcare, it can be life or death—literally. #CMEchat #feedback #realtalk

rmtyner               T1 feedback improves communication in GME t.co/qio2443I48 #meded #CMEchat

theCMEguy        RT @rmtyner: T1 feedback improves communication in GME t.co/qio2443I48 #meded #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan Is there any research that says 1 is more effective than the other? #cmechat

CMEChat             Great 'feedback' so far on the first topic...please keep it coming as we prepare for topic 2! #CMEchat

rmtyner               @theCMEguy example - screaming at me about my inadequacies is feedback but not effective for me...  #CMEchat

giasison                @meducate Hi Lawrence &amp; all! Thanks for the warm welcome! #CMEchat @theCMEguy @CMEChat

BrianSMcGowan              Great question! RT @brandeeplott: @briansmcgowan Is there any research that says 1 is more effective than the other? #cmechat

aCMEstory          T1: Timing, amount/content, mode, audience, environment all factors for consideration when giving feedback. #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Just as individuals respond to different learnring styles, they may respond differently to feedback mechanisms. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              In #socialQI I talk about how giving and accepting feedback may be among the most critical skills to lifelong learning! #CMEchat #chapter7

theCMEguy        @rmtyner So, not just the content of the feeback, but also the way the feedback is presented? #cmechat

theCMEguy        Agreed RT @brandeeplott: Just as individuals respond to different learnring styles, may respond differently to feedback mechanisms. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              T1: and what about the old adage about unsolicited feedback...may come off as only an opinion vs constructive...#CMEChat

aCMEstory          T1: There is a shared responsibility—the educator must provide feedback and the learner must request feedback on an ongoing basis. #CMEchat

CMEChat             T2 – What are the best approaches to providing feedback in live educational activities for small groups of 10 - 50? #CMEchat

meducate           #CMEchat  t.co/Sazkw5ubt3

myCME                Do some learners perceive feedback as criticism? #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @aCMEstory 'request' yes. 'accept' certainly. Shared responsibility when it comes to feedback and lifelong learning. #CMEchat

theCMEguy        Yes RT @myCME: Do some learners perceive feedback as criticism? #cmechat

giasison                RT @CMEChat: T2 – What are the best approaches to providing feedback in live educational activities for small groups of 10 - 50? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t1: tone...safety...body language...emotion...timing...reflection. so much goes into providing feedback. #CMEchat

theCMEguy        I think David Wright just pulled a hammy... RT @meducate: #CMEchat  t.co/3UEkDsEmR0

brandeeplott     @thecmeguy Perhaps the first step is to get them to perceive feedback as positive. #cmechat

aCMEstory          T2: small groups can benefit from combo of tailored individual and group feedback to foster reflection and self-regulation. #CMEchat

giasison                @CMEChat A2 Feedback in small grps-&gt; Keep it simple &amp; straight forward #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan of those things listed, much harder to get across in written feedback vs verbal feedback #CMEchat

rmtyner               T2 i think that in a small group setting - a good moderator can be part of a great feedback mechanism #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @cmechat Depends on what the educational format was. Hands on training, didactic, case-based, etc. #cmechat

giasison                Agree!RT @rmtyner: T2 i think that in a small group setting - a good moderator can be part of a great feedback mechanism #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t2: all of the same we discussed above must be made real...and scalable..and not received as overly critical. #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Maybe have a small group discussion regarding what their next steps will be? #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t2: in groups of 50 or fewer, one would think that peer-feedback would be a very effective approach!? #CMEchat

rmtyner               t2 small group feedback could also be a springboard for making changes  #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t2: one interpretation of the question HAS to be 'is this a small group one-off, episodic, or on-going learning experience?' right? #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan Only if everyone in the discussion group can remain respectful which does not always happen. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t2: the article we led off w/ focused on summative fdbck...but seems most literature uses on-going and therefor formative fdbck? #CMEchat

brandeeplott     I think it would be interesting to regroup after they have had time to reflect and then discuss. #cmechat

rmtyner               @brandeeplott and give them the opportunity to choose different groups... #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t1/t2: do we think feedback is positively represented in the overall #meded culture or is it negataively experienced? #CMEchat #expectations

aCMEstory          T2: Interprofessional education in team communication: working together to improve patient safety. t.co/MRJDSxWcmV #CMEchat #feedback

CMEChat             T3 – What are the best approaches to providing feedback in live educational activities for large groups of 100+? #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @brandeeplott and this type of feedback-reflection-discussion loop is much easier now considering the tools tr our disposal #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @rmtyner Yep, good idea. #cmechat

rmtyner               T3 i think ARS could be a good way to provide feedback in a larger setting #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @thecmeguy True, would be neat to do some original research on this. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t2/t3: Seems to me that the delivery of fdbck is not the magic bullet, it is ensuring the fdbck is well received that makes change. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @rmtyner see this? "Good experiences with an audience response system used in #meded" t.co/EVUgqntPuk #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T1/2: Seems we don't often incorporate giving/receiving/requesting feedback into our UGME/GME/PGME curricula. Useful for all levels #CMEchat

myCME                The problem is, how much #meded out there actually involves small groups? Small groups is ideal but often not realistic. #cmechat

theCMEguy        T3: use of multiple "roving instructors" to circulate throughout room and provide more individual feedback #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan Agreed. #cmechat.

BrianSMcGowan              t3: for fdbck to larger groups: immediately = games/ARS are great tools. overtime = examples from other learners &amp; SoMe. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @myCME - see topic 3! #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @aCMEstory - b/c almost all CME is 'delivered'...we need to get back to structuring a learning experience in broader terms. #CMEchat

myCME                @thecmeguy Good idea but you would need instructors who are comfortable with this teaching style. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t3: what is interesting is how faculty may interact infront of large groups is a form of fdbck. likewise, I watch other learners. #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T2/3: "Ensuring" feedback is well-received requires value discussion. Even if negative, there's value in feedback to fix med error. #CMEchat

aCMEstory          T3: Patient outcomes are a type of feedback. Structured chart reviews and team-based learning can lead to behavior change and #QI. #CMEchat

brandeeplott     How about a live Twitter chat such as what we are doing now? #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              @aCMEstory - if the expectation of a physician is "I am always right" then any and all feedback must seem to be critical #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @aCMEstory - love the idea of 'helping the learners see the results they achieve' as a form of teaching them to fish...#CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              #TOTD MT @aCMEstory: T3: Patient outcomes are a type of feedback. Structured chart reviews can lead to behavior change and #QI. #CMEchat

CMEChat             T4 – What are the best approaches of providing feedback in ‘asynchronous’ educational activities? Print? Online? Mobile? #CMEchat

brandeeplott     Lots of literature out there on how to better receive constructive criticism. #cmechat

theCMEguy        @brandeeplott Cool idea, but gets pretty tricky w/ regards to feedback. It's a very public forum... #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t4: i love what @aCMEstory suggested about helping learners see their own mini-PDSA cycles. Teaching them to truly 'learn' #CMEchat

dpguinee             T3 - arriving way late...what about our 'learners' - do they want/expect a learning experience??  Nevermind if faculty can deliver.#cmechat

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan Yes, but not in group setting - privacy issues! #cmechat.

BrianSMcGowan              BTW: @theCMEguy is not doing nearly as well today as @aCMEstory! #CMEchat #Feedback

theCMEguy        T4: maybe not "best", but well structured posttest with immediate results and links back to info in activity #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              @dpguinee - I mentioned something earlier about the culture of medical training...could work for us, or against us with #feedback #CMEchat

brandeeplott     @thecmeguy Hmm,. if only there could be private Tweet groups! #cmechat

dpguinee             T3/4 - had an attendee speak up one time - small event - "show me where I come up short and I'll listen.." Local PI/QI data!  #cmechat

giasison                @BrianSMcGowan @thecmeguy @acmestory Great sample for feedback—&gt; positive at that &amp; live #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              t4: not traditional, but show learner X what other prior learners have done, seen, reacted to the content. #Connectedlearning #CMEchat

aCMEstory          @briansmcgowan Hmmm. Can you think of another way to give that feedback more constructively? #CMEchat

theCMEguy        @BrianSMcGowan You're just bitter that you fell for my April Fools joke #CMEchat #feedback #truth

BrianSMcGowan              ;-) RT @aCMEstory: @briansmcgowan Hmmm. Can you think of another way to give that feedback more constructively? #CMEchat

dpguinee             T4 - in-program immed feedback (eg: how did peers answers) seems to keep participants going through an entire on-demand activity #cmechat

brandeeplott     Providing post-activity summary of intent-to-change to all participants before next activity? Just an idea. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              t1-4: not only is feedback critical to learning efficiently, but it is critical to how well-received CME may be. #CMEChat #LEVELTWO

CMEChat             Thanks for participating in #CMEchat. Discussions are assumed to be personal opinion &amp; not that of employers

theCMEguy        @dpguinee Like in-activity polling? Yes, agree. Good idea. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan              As we wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat – RT your favorite comment!

CMEChat             The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action, Please reflect &amp; take action on things you’ve learned!

brandeeplott     @briansmcgowan Weird, I just tweeted same thing without having read this. #cmechat #psychic

CMEChat             The complete tweetstream from #CMEchat will be archived shortly at t.co/EylNu0ipQF

dpguinee             T4 Anyone dare do a 'check study' to verify readers for print enduring?  Not a feedback mechanism...or could it be??  #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan              Lets all wish @meducate good luck at the Double A home opener he is attending up in NYC. #letsgomess! #CMEchat ;-p

aCMEstory          T1-4: Feedback must come with support—ensure the learner understands how to apply the feedback to current practices. #CMEchat #reflection


A look back at our first 68 #CMEchat sessions

For those who have asked, here is a centralized list and archive of every session held to date. 

Seems like a very interesting data set for some data mining...

#CMEchat 68: Strategies for assessing & leveraging motivation to learn
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/03/26/cmechat-68-strategies-for-assessing—leveraging-motivation-to-learn.aspx

#CMEchat 67: Rethinking the strategies to ‘cause’ behavior change
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/03/18/cmechat-67-rethinking-the-strategies-to-cause-behavior-change-.aspx

#CMEchat 66: Extending Learning Over Time
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/03/11/cmechat-66-extending-learning-over-time.aspx

#CMEchat 65: Rethinking the strategies to extend learning and reinforce behavior change (shortened)
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/03/04/cmechat-65-rethinking-the-strategies-to-extend-learning-and-reinforce-behavior-change.aspx

#CMEchat 64: What are the best models for disseminating new clinical info? (Part 2)
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/02/25/cmechat-64-what-are-the-best-models-for-disseminating-new-clinical-info-part-2.aspx

#CMEchat 63: What are the best models for disseminating new clinical info? (Part 1)
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/02/11/cmechat-63-what-are-the-best-models-for-disseminating-new-clinical-info-part-1.aspx

#CMEchat #62: Sharing lesson from #acehp13
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/02/04/cmechat-62-sharing-lesson-from-acehp13.aspx

#CMEchat 61: How do we ensure we effectively share/publish our best practices?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/01/28/cmechat-61-how-do-we-ensure-we-effectively-sharepublish-our-best-practices.aspx

#CMEchat 60: Bending the forgetting curve, how do we sustain knowledge gains in CME?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/01/23/cmechat-60-bending-the-forgetting-curve-how-do-we-sustain-knowledge-gains-in-cme-.aspx

#CMEchat 59: How does 'motivation' affect our educational planning?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/01/14/cmechat-59-how-does-motivation-affect-our-educational-planning.aspx

#CMEchat 58: Overcoming Our Overreliance on the Post-Test
http://cmeadvocate.com/2013/01/07/cmechat-58-overcoming-our-overreliance-on-the-post-test.aspx

#CMEchat 57: How Do Learners Prepare for Major Medical Meetings?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/12/19/cmechat-57-how-do-learners-prepare-for-major-medical-meetings.aspx

#CMEchat 56: Tackling Olson's Predictions for the Future of CPD - Part IV
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/12/03/cmechat-56-tackling-olsons-predictions-for-the-future-of-cpd—-part-iv.aspx

#CMEchat 55: Tackling Olson's Predictions for the Future of CPD - Part III
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/11/26/cmechat-55-tackling-olsons-predictions-for-the-future-of-cpd—-part-iii.aspx

#CMEchat 54: Tackling Olson's Predictions for the Future of CPD - Part II
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/11/19/cmechat-54-tackling-olsons-predictions-for-the-future-of-cpd—-part-ii.aspx

#CMEchat 53: Tackling Olson's Predictions for the Future of CPD
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/11/12/cmechat-53-tackling-olsons-predictions-for-the-future-of-cpd.aspx

#CMEchat 52 - Does CME work?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/04/12/cmechat-52—-does-cme-work.aspx

#CMEchat 51 - Exploring Gender in CME and Medical Education
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/04/07/cmechat-51—-exploring-gender-in-cme-and-medical-education.aspx

#CMEchat 50 - Ask Your Most Pressing Questions
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/03/28/cmechat-50—-ask-your-most-pressing-questions-part-2.aspx

#CMEchat 49: Ask your most pressing questions
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/03/21/cmechat-49-ask-your-most-pressing-questions.aspx

CMEchat #48: How do Docs use social media to answer their questions in practice
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/03/14/cmechat-48-how-do-docs-use-social-media-to-answer-their-questions-in-practice.aspx

#CMEchat 47 - Practical tips for managing post-tests & summative assessment
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/03/07/cmechat-practical-tips-for-managing-post-tests—summative-assessment.aspx

#CMEchat 46 - Interprofessional Education in Healthcare
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/02/29/cmechat-46—-interprofessional-education-in-healthcare.aspx

#CMEchat 45 - On assessments - needs, formative, and summative
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/02/22/cmechat-45—-on-assessments—-needs-formative-and-summative.aspx

#CMEchat 44 - On Mentoring, Coaching, and Teaching Teachers
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/02/16/cmechat-44—-on-mentoring-coaching-and-teaching-teachers.aspx

#CMEchat 43 - The role of feedback in CME
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/02/09/cmechat—-the-role-of-feedback-in-cme.aspx

#CMEchat 42 - Technologies that we use to increase productivity
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/02/01/cmechat-42—-technologies-that-we-use-to-increase-productivity.aspx

#CMEchat 41 - lessons from #acehp12
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/01/25/cmechat-41—-lessons-from-acehp12.aspx

#CMEchat 40 - Preparing for the Annual Alliance Meeting #acehp12
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/01/18/cmechat-40—-preparing-for-the-annual-alliance-meeting-acehp12.aspx

#CMEchat 39: Educate program credibility - from needs assessment, to faculty, to content, to action
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/01/11/cmechat-39-educate-program-credibility—-from-needs-assessment-to-faculty-to-content-to-action.aspx

#CMEchat 38 - Credibility, content/context, and control in online CME
http://cmeadvocate.com/2012/01/04/cmechat—-credibility-contentcontext-and-control-in-online-cme.aspx

#CMEchat 37: Science behind knowledge retention/translation.
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/12/21/cmechat-37-science-behind-knowledge-retentiontranslation-.aspx

#CMEchat 36: Virtual environments, congresses, & distance learning
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/12/14/cmechat-36-virtual-environments-congresses—distance-learning.aspx

#CMEchat 35: Re-engineering the Data Stream
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/12/07/cmechat-35-re-engineering-the-data-stream.aspx

#CMEchat 34: What's good, what can be improved, what to talk about in 2012?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/12/03/cmechat34-whats-good-what-can-be-improved-what-to-talk-about-in-2012.aspx

#CMEchat 33: Global Collaboration and Quality-driven Education
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/11/17/cmechat-33—-global-collaboration-and-quality-driven-education.aspx

#CMEchat 32: What skills are needed for (virtual) social learning?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/11/09/cmechat-32—-what-skills-are-needed-for-virtual-social-learning.aspx

#CMEchat 31: State of CME or "Crystal Ball Gazing"
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/11/02/cmechat-31—-state-of-cme-or-crystal-ball-gazing.aspx

#CMEchat 30: Behavior Change: Where Does CME fit?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/10/26/cmechat-30-behavior-change-where-does-cme-fit.aspx

#CMEchat 29: Exploring non-traditional and serendipitous outcomes
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/10/19/cmechat-29-exploring-non-traditional-and-serendipitous-outcomes.aspx

#CMEchat 28: The use of technology in the CME community
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/10/16/cmechat-28—the-use-of-technology-in-the-cme-community.aspx

#CMEchat 27: How do we encourage practice and feedback loops in CME?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/10/05/cmechat-27—-best-practices-in-feedback.aspx

#CMEchat 26: Assessing what we know about assessment...
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/09/29/cmechat-26—-assessing-what-we-know-about-assessment.aspx

#CMEchat 25: Publication planning for the CME profession
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/09/21/cmechat—25-publication-planning-for-the-cme-profession.aspx

#CMEchat 24: How much do we know about linking learning objectives to assessment models?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/09/14/cmechat-24-how-much-do-we-know-about-linking-learning-objectives-to-assessment-models.aspx

#CMEchat 23: Exploring the value and utility of a tweetchat for learning
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/09/07/exploring-the-value-and-utility-of-a-tweetchat-for-learning—-cmechat.aspx

#CMEchat 22: Can we make live meetings better?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/08/31/can-we-make-live-meetings-better.aspx

#CMEchat 21: Beyond Formal Learning: Search and Informal Learning in Medicine
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/08/28/beyond-formal-learning-search-and-decision-support-tools.aspx

#CMEchat 20: CME Faculty: Content Experts or Teaching Excellence
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/08/17/cme-faculty-content-experts-or-teaching-excellence.aspx

#CMEchat 19: Practical Pitfall of Outcomes Fatigue
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/08/10/practical-pitfall-of-outcomes-fatigue.aspx

#CMEchat 18: Is education needed, if it already exists? #CMEchat
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/08/03/is-educational-needed-if-it-already-exists.aspx

#CMEchat 17:  Rapid learning healthcare models and the CME profession
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/07/27/cmechat—-rapid-learning-healthcare-models-and-the-cme-profession.aspx

#CMEchat 16: Blended Learning and Learning Styles in Medical Education: Hype or Hope
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/07/20/blended-learning-and-learning-styles-hype-or-hope.aspx

#CMEchat 15: How can we improve online learning?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/07/17/how-can-we-improve-online-learning.aspx

#CMEchat 14: How can we improve live, 'situated' learning'?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/07/06/how-can-we-improve-live-situated-learning.aspx

#CMEchat 13: What happens to new data after a medical meeting?
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/07/04/what-happens-to-new-data-after-a-medical-meeting.aspx

#CMEchat 12: How to endure learning.
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/06/22/cmechat—-summer-time-learning.aspx

#CMEchat 11: Knowledge Translation & Decision Support Tools
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/06/19/cmechat—-knowledge-translation—decision-support-tools.aspx

#CMEchat 10: Technology and education lessons
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/06/11/cmechat-week-ten—-archive.aspx

#CMEchat 9: CME vs CPD and the Future
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/06/01/cmechat-week-nine—-cme-vs-cpd-and-the-future.aspx

#CMEchat 8: All about social learning
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/05/25/cmechat-week-8—-all-about-social-learning.aspx

#CMEchat 7: How do you assess whether HCPs really ‘need’ education? 
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/05/18/cmechat-lucky-number-seven.aspx

#CMEchat 6: Has the definition of CME changed 
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/05/13/cmechat-week-six—-guest-host-meducate.aspx

#CMEchat 5: Social and informal learning in the medical profession
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/05/04/cmechat-week-5.aspx

#CMEchat 4: How/Where do you begin your educational planning
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/04/27/archive-from-cmechat-today.aspx

#CMEchat 3: The impact of format/design on the value/impact of a CME activity
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/04/23/another-great-cmechat.aspx

#CMEchat 2: Social Media (SoMe) in CME
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/04/13/great-discussion-at-our-2nd-cmechat.aspx

#CMEchat 1: Ice Breaker/Introduction Topics: Favorite learning principle and CME Hall of Fame Inductions
http://cmeadvocate.com/2011/04/07/inaugural-cmechat-was-a-great-success.aspx

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