T2: What are critical success factors when engaging learners in interactive educational programs? What are the top challenges? #CMEchat

T3. We’ve talked about content vs teaching expertise – how do you select/prepare faculty to optimize interactivity & learning? #CMEchat

T4. What about the physical/mental stamina of learners participating in ‘more interactive’ full/multi day Mtgs? Any concerns? #CMEchat

T5. What is the best live educational experience you have ever had? Please share 2 reasons the event stands out. #CMEchat

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@cmeadvocate Can I Improve What I Don’t Measure? >> more from Floyd >> t.co/MFhr753 #CMEchat

@meducate #CMEchat @cmeadvocate @betsymeded I wrote about the value of hallway convos in this column last year t.co/UxXqKzq

@cmeadvocate #TOTD RT @spelletier: @cmeadvocate @betsymeded that's why we need to find ways to bring the hallways into the activity, right? #cmechat

@cmeadvocate @spelletier - learner and concept (in the form of a sounding board for subjective norming OR expert feedback) #cmechat

@spelletier Q for anyone who's still here: Should interactivity b between learner/faculty, learner/learner, or learner/something else? #cmechat

@spelletier IMHO ars often used to pay lip (button) service to interactivity, excuse 2 cross it off list without having to go deeper #cmechat

@betsymeded Yes! RT @spelletier: @cmeadvocate @betsymeded that's why we need to find ways to bring the hallways into the activity, right? #cmechat

@spelletier RT @cmeadvocate: @Bonnycastle RE: ARS. Does engagement in learning mean pushing a button or does it mean deep introspection? #cmechat

@Bonnycastle @cmeadvocate Opinion polls introduce the idea of variance in concepts of truth which prof uses for the next step #CMEchat

@Bonnycastle @cmeadvocate Opinion polls introduce the idea of variance in concepts of truth which prof uses for the next step #CMEchat

@spelletier Which circles right back to interactivity—need to find nonthreatening ways 4 learners 2 engage w/ each other like in hall convos #cmechat

@spelletier @cmeadvocate @betsymeded that's why we need to find ways to bring the hallways into the activity, right? #cmechat

@cmeadvocate @Bonnycastle - RE: ARS. Does engagement in learning mean pushing a button or does it mean deep introspection about a concept? #CMEchat

@spelletier #TOTD @cmeadvocate: idea that a teacher will prepare 45 slides for 45 minutes means that the notion of engagement has been ignored #cmechat

@Bonnycastle @cmeadvocate We use ARS in class for opinion polls at start of class and for team games works well #CMEchat

@cmeadvocate should a good live event leave the learner w/ more questions than she came in with? a motivation to answer them? #CMEchat

@JediPD my vote: #cmechat in 5 minutes! @CMEChat Great fun. Thanks Brian. G'day all.

@cmeadvocate thanks to @betsymeded for throwing the wrench into the works - "real learning takes place in the hallways..." Ha! #CMEchat

@Bonnycastle Ideas for Self Directed Learning t.co/4NNw7fw #CMEchat

@betsymeded #CMEChat T5: I may be biased - PACME session #ACME11 - 6 hats. Lots of topics; many different angles. Left w/ some v actionable steps.

@spelletier B interesting to find out MT @cmeadvocate: t4 - is there science on stamina of learning vs stamina of participating? #cmechat

@JediPD Agreed smaller group is more "Individualized" and perceived as such @cmeadvocate #cmechat

@Bonnycastle Ideas for Teaching Teamwork t.co/LQxb8Zq #CMEchat

@cmeadvocate #TOTD RT @betsymeded: Or is the learning taking place in the hall outside all 3? MT @cmeadvocate: u've 3 rooms: which is full? #CMEchat

@CMEChat 3The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action - engage others to participate & please take action on things your have learned! G’day!

@spelletier Over so soon? We were just getting going... #cmechat

@CMEChat As we get wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat

@CMEChat Thx for participating in #CMEchat. All discussions herein are assumed 2 b personal opinion & not that of current, past, or future employers

@spelletier t5 key elements: small grp, total access to faculty (formal and informal), included prob-solving, multimedia... #cmechat

@cmeadvocate t5 - for live teaching i feel I can connect w/ a room of ~40 folks...larger than that and I am teaching to segments, not people. #CMEchat

@Bonnycastle Ideas for actively engaging t.co/H9XruVC #CMEchat

@meducate #CMEChat T5 As a learner - having mixed faculty that were educators who brought ideas from outside the specialty area but made it relevant

@spelletier t5 talk about exhausting: 1 of the best was a CME leadership boot camp I went to years ago. Wrote about it t.co/RBtbg2A#cmechat

@betsymeded Or is the learning taking place in the hall outside all 3? MT @cmeadvocate: u've 3 rooms: which is full? #CMEchat

@JediPD T5: Always learn more in the Q&A session. Should increase that time. Free thought rather the didactic rehearsed drills #cmechat

@meducate #CMEChat T5 As a teacher, the best was leading a workshop selected by the learners where they hadn't had one on the topic before

@cmeadvocate t5 - For any live learning, I like groups of less than 10...but they have to be energetic, or they will annoy me (and me them) #CMEchat

@meducate @cmeadvocate Then you'll have a mix...maybe not equal sized groups but there will be people in all 3 because of self-direction #CMEchat

@JediPD Fatigue? Break it up with a Dove/Haagendas bar! @cmeadvocate #cmechat

@cmeadvocate nope - not self directed, let them choose. RT @meducate: @cmeadvocate #CMEchat all 3 if you break the group up and have them rotate

@CMEChat T5. What is the best live educational experience you have ever had? Please share 2 reasons the event stands out. #CMEchat

@cmeadvocate t4 - what do we know about the stamina of learning vs stamina of participating? not sure there is science here...#CMEchat

@meducate @cmeadvocate #CMEchat all 3 if you break the group up and have them rotate

@JediPD Learning teaching is watching Steve Jobs do the "marketing" (fan). Ease of style, manner of speak and reiteration! #cmechat

@rmtyner workshop! MT @cmeadvocate: T1-4 - u've 3 rooms: true workshop in one, live lecture in 2nd, webcast stations in 3rd. which is full? #CMEchat

@meducate #CMEChat T4 You can mix lecture, interaction and movement in live Activities. No fatigue, mixed learning styles supported

@cmeadvocate T1-4 - u've 3 rooms: true workshop in one, live lecture in 2nd, webcast stations in 3rd (w/ ability to contrl pace). which is full? #CMEchat

@spelletier RT @JediPD: Would recommend "Made to Stick" by Chip Heath. (And, I am no Chip Heath) Great concepts in teaching! #cmechat

@spelletier @cmeadvocate 8 hrs of interactive would b more tiring (but less boring), because it takes more energy #cmechat

@JediPD Would recommend "Made to Stick" by Chip Heath. (And, I am no Chip Heath) Great concepts in teaching! #cmechat

@meducate Absolutely RT @cmeadvocate: t4 - 8 hrs of role-playing or simulation would be as exhausting as 8 hours of lectures, no? #CMEchat

@audrie95 @spelletier #CMEChat agreed - you have to stop learners from glazing over.

@cmeadvocate t4 - 8 hrs of role-playing or simulation would be as exhausting as 8 hours of lectures, no? #CMEchat

@spelletier t4 And lots of time to discuss informally, or just let learning sink in. Constant interactivity=crazed learners #cmechat

@cmeadvocate T3 - several groups are building teaching institutes - @AmerGastroAssn for example, where teaching skill is valued. we NEED THIS!!! #CMEchat

@CMEChat T3 - several groups are building teaching institutes - @AmerGastroAssn for example, where teaching skill is valued. we NEED THIS!!! #CMEchat

@JediPD Faculty that understands the subject and can articulate in understandable bites. Yes! #cmechat @spelletier

@spelletier @CMEChat t4 you have to mix it up or you'll exhaust the poor things. A chunk of info, a hands-on exercise, a film clip, simulations #cmechat

@spelletier I'm hearing we need to pick faculty who understand/can facilitate interaction, period. Am I hearing right? #cmechat

@CMEChat T4. What about the physical/mental stamina of learners participating in ‘more interactive’ full/multi day Mtgs? Any concerns? #CMEchat

@JediPD Will provide it to you. It was a learning pyramid, if I recall. #cmechat @cmeadvocate

@meducate Yes! RT @betsymeded: the learners?? MT @meducate: Who referees the battle RT @spelletier: have facilitator & educator—2 droles? #cmechat

@cmeadvocate t3 - we don't need contracts w/ faculty... we need people embrace the meaning of the word 'faculty', no? #CMEchat

@spelletier RT @meducate: T3 We will never put the E in CME until we use faculty that are educators and methods that fit the objectives/ needs #cmechat

@betsymeded Umm - the learners?? MT @meducate: Who referees the battle b/t them? RT @spelletier: have facilitator & educator—2 diff roles? #cmechat

@JediPD Teachers are graded by students and flock to those who can teach and from whom they can learn! #cmechat The rest they daydream thru.

@cmeadvocate @JediPD - oh this one needs a reference.... #cmechat

@meducate @cmeadvocate There was a long twitter discussion about professionalism via #amee2011 yesterday #CMEchat

@cmeadvocate sad truth....often. RT @spelletier: Maybe best to have facilitator and educator—2 diff roles? #cmechat

@JediPD "Ad reductio absurdum" We are complicating a simple process. #cmechat Remember only 20% of lecture is internalized at a time. #cmechat

@spelletier Yes! MT @betsymeded T3: Has the time come to have them sign a contract and really train them to teach??? #cmechat

@meducate And who referees the battle between them? RT @spelletier: Maybe best to have facilitator and educator—2 diff roles? #cmechat

@meducate Yes every time RT @spelletier: t3 but how do you prep faculty for engagement? Do you train the trainer in this? #cmechat

@meducate #CMEChat T3 We will never put the E in CME until we use faculty that are educators and methods that fit the objectives and needs

@cmeadvocate @betsymeded - but it is not about contracts...it is about professionalism...and self awareness...know thy limits... #CMEChat

@katellington RT @betsymeded: #CMEChat T3: Has the time come to abandon a free-agent model of faculty, and have them sign a contract and really train ...

@spelletier Maybe best to have facilitator and educator—2 diff roles? #cmechat

@JediPD Kudos! “@meducate: #cmechat T3 I use educators that know the subject rather than experts that can't educate”

@cmeadvocate t3. Ive made this point a 100 x's before...but teaching is not a common skill...very few can put themselves 2nd...and 'teach". #CMEchat

@katellington I think there're part of the equipment in the lecture hall. @FutureDocs ? Do you loan out iPads or do they bring their own? #cmechat

@spelletier t3 but how do you prep faculty for engagement? Do you train the trainer in this? #cmechat

@meducate #CMEChat FYI been outside for this chat and my iPad shut down - overheated!

@SusanBConnelly In many cases it is better to have the expert there as a reference but not leading the education #CMEChat

@betsymeded #CMEChat T3: Has the time come to abandon a free-agent model of faculty, and have them sign a contract and really train them to teach???

@JediPD Agreed! RT @cmeadvocate: t3 - idea that a 'teacher' prepare 45 slides for 45 mins means the notion of engagement has been ignored #CMEchat

@spelletier MT @cmeadvocate: t3 a teacher who preps 45 slides for 45 minutes is ignoring notion of engagement...#CMEchat #cmechat

@meducate #cmechat T3 I use educators that know the subject rather than experts that can't educate

@cmeadvocate t3 - the idea that a 'teacher' will prepare 45 slides for 45 minutes means that the notion of engagement has been ignored...#CMEchat

@JediPD Engaging an audience is by looking in a direction and not at a single person. Group looked at feels eyes & responds @cmeadvocate #cmechat

@CMEChat t3 - the idea that a 'teacher' will prepare 45 slides for 45 minutes means that the notion of engagement has been ignored...#CMEchat

@spelletier @CMEChat T3 faculty prep: this is so key. If faculty isn't comfortable with it, no way will it work #cmechat

@CMEChat T3. We’ve talked about content vs teaching expertise – how do you select/prepare faculty to optimize interactivity & learning? #CMEchat

@cmeadvocate @JediPD - in a room of 10 yes, but what about 100...or more? #cmechat

@cmeadvocate t2 - if 'learners' walk in and find a podium and rows of seats - you may have already lost the battle...#CMEchat

@JediPD As a teacher one can see the "interested" or "in the bag"&"disinterested" latter needs be engaged with "soft-tosses" @cmeadvocate #cmechat

@spelletier t2 barriers—lazy learners don't want to participate. Ezr to sit and absorb. Interaction is work #cmechat

@cmeadvocate t2 - what language can we use to describe a live session...so learners understand what is expected of them...#semantics #CMEchat

@LynchInsights @katellington do you loan out iPads or do they bring their own? #cmechat

@dean_jenkins @cmeadvocate giving permission to interact is needed with those more reserved participants or cultures. #CMEchat T2

@spelletier just finally found link to kind of old article but relevant to T1 re lectures aren't all bad: t.co/BkVNduj#cmechat

@katellington #truth RT @JediPD: The problem in teaching is often passage of "hype" as a paradigm. Damaging to the students who the propagate. #cmechat

@cmeadvocate The idea of permission is key...learners must feel empowered and safe enough to engage, to participate, to contribute. #CMEchat...

@cmeadvocate so true. RT @JediPD: The problem in teaching is often passage of "hype" as a paradigm. Damaging to the students who then propagate. #cmechat

@JediPD The problem in teaching is often passage of "hype" as a paradigm. Damaging to the students who the propagate. #cmechat

@cmeadvocate explain? RT @dean_jenkins: T2 giving 'permission' is fundemental in stimulating interaction in a tutorial / symposium. #CMEchat #imho

@meducate Poor thing...RT @cmeadvocate: BTW teetdeck is killing me here....or my keyboard is going nuts...#CMEchat

@katellington re ARS #cmechat RT @FutureDocs: We use iPad audience response system at morning report when doing mksap questions #meded

@dean_jenkins T2 giving 'permission' is fundemental in stimulating interaction in a tutorial / symposium. #CMEchat #imho

@cmeadvocate @dean_jenkins - but even lectures can be more engaging, no? #CMEchat

@LynchInsights RT @meducate: T2 -Critical to get learners to participate, barriers include having learners understand so that they participate #cmechat

@cmeadvocate t2 - top challenges = learner fatigue and apathy and faculty apathey and incompetence. engagement is a real, measurable thing. #CMEchat

@JediPD A seminar for "teachers" to sort out ability and give advice on methodology is one idea. @cmeadvocate #cmechat

@betsymeded Sadly yes. Wish it paralled rounding & standing bedside. MT @cmeadvocate t1. live ed=hotel ballroom/classroom/break room R of ICU? #CMEchat

@meducate #CMEchat T2 -Critical to get learners to participate, barriers include having learners understand so that they participate

@dean_jenkins T1 in defence of the good lecture they are useful for introducing the concepts. Advance organisers. #CMEchat

@cmeadvocate BTW teetdeck is killing me here....or my keyboard is going nuts...#CMEchat

@meducate @JediPD #CMEchat Describes a Jedi Educator, no? I agree completely

@CMEChat T2: What are critical success factors when engaging learners in interactive educational programs? What are the top challenges? #CMEchat

@cmeadvocate @JediPD - great barrier...each learner has a different ability and skill set and knowledge base...what is solution? #CMEchat

@meducate Agree, and design,,,RT @dean_jenkins: @cmeadvocate t1 agree. Objectives should help direct the lesson plan. #cmechat

@JediPD Teaching is not by rote, but by distilling out complexity into simplicity of understanding. Requires experience. #cmechat

@LynchInsights It can if done right, if done wrong it can be a big distraction @cmeadvocate: I wonder if ARS can really be considered interacting #cmechat

@dean_jenkins @cmeadvocate t1 agree. Objectives should help direct the lesson plan. #cmechat

@meducate @cmeadvocate #CMEchat T1All of the above and more. We need to teach in all environments - and use methods that support learning

@cmeadvocate I wonder if ARS can really be considered interacting? RT @LynchInsights: T1: use ars to bring audience perspective to cases #cmechat

@JediPD Provided learner is fully cognizant of the lesson RT @cmeadvocate: t1. learner role playing as teacher....hear one, speak one? #CMEchat”

@LynchInsights Have addressed that with a great moderator RT @meducate: Have seen this backfire unless faculty r trained #cmechat

@cmeadvocate t1. when we say live education are you picturing a hotel ball room or a class room or a break room right of the ICU? #CMEchat

@meducate Have seen this backfire unless faculty r trained RT @LynchInsights: T1: use ars to bring aud perspective to cases being discussed #cmechat

@reginamotarjeme Regina has joined#CMEChat

@cmeadvocate t1 - @dean_jenkins might agree with me....shouldn't the objectives dictate the way the live session flows? #CMEchat

@LynchInsights T1: use ars to bring audience perspective to cases being discussed #cmechat

@meducate #CMEchat T1Lectures = push only. Live should contain push and pull and push back

@cmeadvocate t1. how about presentation interspersed w/ learners role playing as teacher....hear one, speak one? #CMEchat

@meducate #CMEchat T1 Even the largest rooms can incorporate interactivity

@meducate Precisely RT @betsymeded: #CMEChat T1: lectures interspersed w/ small grp discussions, where grps need to come to a consensus on PBL

@betsymeded #CMEChat T1: Have learners submit a challenging case prior to the live activity, and have faculty address their approach

@meducate #CMEChat T1Live interaction works best with interactivity and ongoing engagement of the learners. Encouraging workshop like behavior

@SaraRiggare #CMEchat RT myself :-): Educating myself as a chronic patient to empowerment has taken me 15-20 years. How ca… (cont) t.co/UTZpgFf

@cmeadvocate t1. I've heard Davis say that he regrets folks quoting him as saying 'lectures don't work' - they do, but not well #CMEchat

@betsymeded #CMEChat T1: lectures interspersed w/ small grp discussions, where grps need to come to a consensus on PBL

@dean_jenkins Dean Jenkins, UK, following #cmechat today. Hello!

@rmtyner me too! RT @meducate: Lurking = silent learning #CMEchat

@meducate Sure...RT @cmeadvocate: shall we begin #CMEchat?

@CMEChat T1: Research suggests that lectures aren’t the most effective adult educ. strategy – what r your best practices in live education? #CMEchat

@meducate Lurking = silent learning #CMEchat

@cmeadvocate shall we begin #CMEchat?

@cmeadvocate And hello to @SusanBConnelly @audrie95 @spelletier & @meducate (and a number of @whitecoatjobs followers ;-p) #CMEchat

@betsymeded #CMEChat - Betsy is here - Happy Wednesday!

@WhiteCoatJobs Morning! This may interest you: many White Coat Job followers are participating: RT @CMEChat #CMEchat begins in a few minutes.

@cmeadvocate #CMEchat - sounds like a few people will lurking (vs participating) too...but fear not our conversations are being listened too...broadly!

@meducate #CMEchat Lawrence here-global CME provider based in NY

@audrie95 #CMEChat Audrie from Paradigm here, after surviving vacation, an earthquake and bailing water from Irene.

@SusanBConnelly Susan here, still can't believe we had earthquake, hurricane, and tornado in PA in one week #cmechat

@spelletier Sue in Mass. is here, glad to have mostly escaped the wrath of Irene. I'll b in and out of #CMEchat 2day #cmechat

@cmeadvocate very busy week so far and even busier from here on out, but always great to stop and learn from y'all #CMEchat

@LynchInsights Good morning, Tim here, glad we got power back at 10pm last night. #cmechat

@cmeadvocate brian here - good morning to all - can't believe it is Wednesday - and I can't believe we have gone 3 days w/o a natural disaster! #CMEchat

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