#CMEchat 31 - State of CME or "Crystal Ball Gazing"

Always a good idea to put off new topics and simply to reflect on the CME profession for a moment - and this is what we did this on this morning's CMEchat:

The topics for today were simple:

T1: In honor of Halloween, what scares you the most about the way CME is provided today? #CMEchat

T2: on the other hand, what provides you the most hope about the way CME is provided today? #CMEchat

T3: from pessimistic (0) to optimistic (100) – how would score the general outlook for the CME community? And, why? #CMEchat

T4: from disappointing (0) to promising (100) – how would score the current “state of the science” of CME? And, why? #CMEchat

T5: please share you 3 critical success factors to advancing the CME ‘profession’ over the next 3-5 years. #CMEchat

The transcripts can be reviewed below or downloaded HERE:

From User        Tweet

reginamotarjeme            @briansmcgowan #CMEchat thank you, next time will try not to multi-task....

CuratioCME      @BrianSMcGowan I think my blog is evidence that I don't abide by this :-) #cmechat

SusanBConnelly            @theCMEguy  saw that happen last week on a committee.  Game of not-it for co-chair #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            @theCMEguy - brilliantly said.... #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            @theCMEguy - @SusanBConnelly is a pharmacist...she may be able to help you there...or update Tweetdeck.... #CMEchat

theCMEguy       @SusanBConnelly @BrianSMcGowan Too many times leadership positions determined by who's willing to do it. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            @CuratioCME - I know that some do not agree when I say: "better to be thought of the fool, then to open you mouth and prove it..." #cmechat

theCMEguy       Sorry for the split personality today. Great topic and convo. Thanks @BrianSMcGowan #CMEchat

SusanBConnelly            @BrianSMcGowan leadership positions interesting.  Why  does everyone assume  leadership in 1 institution = leadership in community? #CMEChat

meducate          Nice job @BrianSMcGowan - and happy to participate from across The Charles #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            thanks to all for participating AND contributing to #CMEchat #31...great conversation as always!

CuratioCME      @BrianSMcGowan Yes, but I lean toward encouragement vs discouragement, How will you know if someone is insightful if  dont share? #cmechat

meducate          +1 RT @BrianSMcGowan: @SusanBConnelly - and then they get elected to leadership positions and henceforth they are leaders... #CMEChat

ChargeAheadMktg         when is #CMEHulk gonna write a whole blog post for @theCMEguy and elaborate on some of his POVs? #cmechat

CMEChat          The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action - engage others to participate & please take action on things your have learned! G’day!

theCMEguy       @BrianSMcGowan Stupid multiple accounts! TweetDeck went haywire on me and I have no idea what going on... #CMEchat #ImAMess

CMEChat          As we get wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat.

CMEChat          Thx for participating in #CMEchat. discussions herein are assumed 2 b personal opinion & not that of current, past, or future employers.

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat sorry off to meeting

BrianSMcGowan            @SusanBConnelly - and then they get elected to leadership positions and henceforth they are leaders... #CMEChat

BrianSMcGowan            What does @CMEHulk  think about Derek going back and forth b/w @theCMEguy  and @CuratioCME #verySuperHero #CMEchat

SusanBConnelly            Many times people don't take the time to think things though and instead just parrot what they've heard, misquoting along the way #CMEChat

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat When I started the medical education wiki I wanted it to be a clearing house for ideas but very few contribute

BrianSMcGowan            @CuratioCME - dont get me wrong: good/insightful opinions ALWAYS matter, IME, however these are hard to come by. make sense? #CMEchat

meducate          #CMEchat I wonder what @cmehulk thinks are CSFs

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat 1000's of resources is my headache as well Everyone does own thing

CuratioCME      @meducate @BrianSMcGowan Now this I agree with! #cmechat

kenny_cox        Yep! @ChargeAheadMktg: @thecmeguy maybe CME needs more approachable and/or inspiring leaders then. just sayin. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            t5 - ...1,000 different resources is often as effective as zero resources -  the medical profession needs to control the channels #CMEchat

Bonnycastle      RT @meducate: @BrianSMcGowan  @theCMEguy #cmechat Or the wrong people speak up and wind up being quoted, tweeted and retweeted and by default leaders

CuratioCME      @BrianSMcGowan Disagree totally. That is what drives fear of speaking up. Too many feel their opinions dont matter #CMEchat

Gayledenise      RT @BrianSMcGowan: t2 - promising = the increasing recognition that grass roots changes can accelerate far more quickly than 'alliances' #CMEchat

meducate          @BrianSMcGowan  @theCMEguy #cmechat Or the wrong people speak up and wind up being quoted, tweeted and retweeted and by default leaders

Gayledenise      RT @meducate: #CMEchat T5 More research, integrated multidisciplinary education, use of appropriate quality measures for assessment throughout

BrianSMcGowan            #TOTD RT @ChargeAheadMktg: @thecmeguy maybe CME needs more approachable and/or inspiring leaders then. just sayin. #cmechat

meducate          @BrianSMcGowan @Bonnycastle #cmechat And the systems don't support just in time learning either...although it occurs every day

Gayledenise      RT @meducate: #CMEchat T5 Integration of undergraduate, graduate and continuing medical education preparing strong lifelong learners

BrianSMcGowan            @theCMEguy - but what if they do not have anything to share or add...i think it wise that some dont speak up... #CMEchat

ChargeAheadMktg         @thecmeguy maybe CME needs more approachable and/or inspiring leaders then. just sayin. #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            @Bonnycastle - 1 problem here is that the channels for just in time learning are very scattered and/or proprietary #brokensystem #CMEchat

Bonnycastle      @theCMEguy good point #CMEchat

theCMEguy       T5: To advance the profession? We need more in the community to get over fear of speaking up. Embrace and engage #CMEchat

ChargeAheadMktg         agreed RT @bonnycastle: #CMEchat T5 stop depending on live sessions for busy physicians and use more just in time resources

BrianSMcGowan            t5 CSF for #CMEchat - once there is respect and credibility (equal lifting) embrace the concepts of professional social learning = community

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat T5 stop depending on live sessions for busy physicians and use more just in time resources

kenny_cox        Open our minds and learn from other industries that are far ahead of us in tech, QI, innovation #cmechat

meducate          @ChargeAheadMktg #cmechat that was important - prepping faculty as important as prepping the learners and the framework (research, science)

reginamotarjeme            RT @commpharm: T5 - Innovation, speed of delivery and customization for the learner #cmechat

ChargeAheadMktg         agreed RT @meducate: #CMEchat T5 Integration of undergraduate, graduate and continuing medical education preparing strong lifelong learners

CommPharm     T5 finding what the professional truly needs instead of what the KOL tells them they should know #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            t5 CSF for #CMEchat - set a basic assumption that professionals publish - and this means you know how... (two-parts)

meducate          #CMEchat T5 Integration of undergraduate, graduate and continuing medical education preparing strong lifelong learners

ChargeAheadMktg         T5: embracing a new generation of faculty who WANT to teach across innovative channels, like #SoMe, mobile & other formats #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            t5 - CSF for #CMEchat - set a new standard for what the CME profession shld be - identify a new breed of deserving leaders to follow

lwwmeded         RT @edubeat: Social Media in Medical Education | Scoop.it: Social Media in Medical Education  t.co/wE54ZmJX #meded #CMEchat...

CommPharm     T5 - Innovation, speed of delivery and customization for the learner #cmechat

meducate          #CMEchat T5 More research, integrated multidisciplinary education, use of appropriate quality measures for assessment throughout

BrianSMcGowan            @Bonnycastle I could spend 10 hours on this one...we are missing the core of a research framework and able 'scientists' AND $$$ #CMEchat

ePatientDave    RT @meducate: @BrianSMcGowan #cmechat t3/t4 - it might be interesting to measure as clinical assertion statements re comfort and see the levels...

meducate          @BrianSMcGowan #cmechat t3/t4 - it might be interesting to measure as clinical assertion statements re comfort and see the levels...

CMEChat          T5: please share your 3 critical success factors to advancing the CME ‘profession’ over the next 3-5 years. #CMEchat

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat So where should research be improved?

CMEChat          sorry for the pace today...tried to save plenty of time for T5! #CMEchat

sregnifnet         RT @meducate: And most from Canada! RT @Bonnycastle: RT I agree not much being published @meducate: #CMEchat T4 - State of the science is at 25% at most

meducate          And most from Canada! RT @Bonnycastle: RT I agree not much being published @meducate: #CMEchat T4 - State of the science is at 25% at most

BrianSMcGowan            t3/t4 - are there other ways you might ask these questions? #CMEchat

meducate          #thepriceisright you win RT @BrianSMcGowan: Then I vote it a 24. RT @meducate: #CMEchat T4 - State of the science is at 25% at most

Bonnycastle      RT I agree not much being published @meducate: #CMEchat T4 - State of the science is at 25% at most

BrianSMcGowan            Then I vote it a 24. RT @meducate: #CMEchat T4 - State of the science is at 25% at most

ChargeAheadMktg         T3: man, a tough one. i'll go 50. has gr8t history & potential, yet non-CME learning is a threat if CME doesn't innovate better #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            mac-hine T @meducate: @BrianSMcGowan @robertAbooey #cmechat Did I just get Baba Booey-ed?????

meducate          #CMEchat T4 - State of the science is at 25% at most

CommPharm     I would be like @meducate I have never been busier. But I know some are suffering. #cmechat

meducate          @BrianSMcGowan @robertAbooey #cmechat Did I just get Baba Booey-ed?????

CMEChat          T4: from disappointing (0) to promising (100) – how would score the current “state of the science” of CME? And, why? #CMEchat (pls use t4)

kenny_cox        t3 Getting a bit depressed (or is that scared) with the discussion today - Agree with @meducate at 85 #cmechat

nightingale801   Hello #CMEchat Some -> # suggestions 4 next time:) #JoinUs or #JoinUsNow #GroupActivity #TwitterActivities #HappeningNow #Event #Participate

BrianSMcGowan            sound like @robertAbooey RT @meducate: T3 #cmechat Personal - 85, guesstimate of overall enterprise - 50. There are a lot of naysayers...

BrianSMcGowan            T3 - i would give it a 59. #CMEchat

meducate          T3 #cmechat Personal - 85, guesstimate of overall enterprise - 50. There are a lot of naysayers...

BrianSMcGowan            @meducate - well...we're waiting... #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            #TOTD RT @Bonnycastle: #CMEchat hardtimes= innovation when my boss sees my travel expenses for f2f meetings socmedia much more appealing

theCMEguy       T3: General outlook? Yikes! I tend to be pessimistic. 40ish #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            over-extrapolation of data RT @SusanBConnelly: Well, I had stew cooked on the grill along with Biskets on Sat in the Snow #CMEChat

laurenero           I see hope in beginning to train the entire care team. #CMEchat

meducate          T3 #cmechat - I think that we can only provide personal ratings and a guesstimate regarding the overall enterprise

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat hardtimes= innovation when my boss sees my travel expenses for f2f meetings socmedia much more appealing

BrianSMcGowan            Nice RT @laurenero: @CMEChat I would rate the outlook for CME at 80.  It will be even more essential as healthcare evolves. #CMEchat

SusanBConnelly            @BrianSMcGowan Well, I had stew cooked on the grill along with Biskets on Sat in the Snow #CMEChat

BrianSMcGowan            t2 - has to be promising that you eventaully have to hit the bottom...right? #Who'sWithMe #CMEchat

laurenero           @CMEChat I would rate the outlook for CME at 80.  It will be even more essential as healthcare evolves. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            and where is the evidence for this promise? RT @SusanBConnelly: T2 what I find most promising is that hard times inspire innovation #CMEChat

meducate          T2 #cmechat I find that much more CME in the US is education - this gives me hope!

theCMEguy       So innovation out the wahzoo next year? :-) RT @SusanBConnelly: T2 what I find most promising is that hard times inspire innovation #CMEChat

CMEChat          T3: from pessimistic (0) to optimistic (100) – how would score the general outlook for the CME community? And, why? #CMEchat (pls use T3)

gfry      RT @BrianSMcGowan: t2 - promising = the increasing recognition that grass roots changes can accelerate far more quickly than 'alliances' #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            t2 - promising = the increasing recognition that grass roots changes can accelerate far more quickly than 'alliances' #CMEchat

SusanBConnelly            T2 what I find most promising is that hard times inspire innovation #CMEChat

theCMEguy       T2: Although slow to adopt, there is at least an increased awareness of new tech, SoMe #babysteps #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            T2 - promising = to connect new academics to re-engage in the science of CME (@RyanMadanickMD @Neil_French @MedPedsDoctor ) #CMEchat

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat T2 Hope: the value and expectation of lifelong learning is catching on

ChargeAheadMktg         T2: # of learners in mobile & social will be moving target educ providers need to follow, will drive innovation (eventually, lol) #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            @theCMEguy - that boat sailed in 2003 (or even earlier...) #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            RT @reginamotarjeme: @briansmcgowan faculty have been very open, most learners as well so I guess it is the providers #CMEchat

CommPharm     True lack of innovation in CME is scary!  RT @BrianSMcGowan:  - ha - scares me more, when no 1 can verbalize ...they just do 'it" #cmechat

Edubeat            Social Media in Medical Education | Scoop.it: Social Media in Medical Education  t.co/4PoRfJyN #meded #CMEchat t.co/kEB9cA2I

CMEChat          T2: on the other hand, what provides you the most hope about the way CME is provided today? #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            @meducate - I am sure there are many ponds b/w here and there...oh - did you think I meant the atlantic...ha ha ;-P #efp #CMEchat

ChargeAheadMktg         @briansmcgowan agreed.  easier to do same old thing #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            @CommPharm - ha - scares me even more, when no one can verbalize that...they just do 'it" #cmechat

meducate          What pond is Boston over? RT @BrianSMcGowan: @meducate is over the pond participating at #efp and we miss him dearly at #CMEchat

theCMEguy       +1 RT @CommPharm: T1 what scares me the most is the words" we have always done it this way" #cmechat

CommPharm     FYI did a presentation last weekend with QR codes.  Well received by 25% and 50% asked what language they were in :) #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            @ChargeAheadMktg - but $$ tend to only serve as an excuse to this community - ergo the "veil of professionalism" #cmechat

theCMEguy       T1: Need to train on tech before using it. Faculty need to be on board, not forced into it. #CMEchat

ChargeAheadMktg         @briansmcgowan u would think it'd work like most other markets, no? #cmechat

laurenero           just because something is online doesn't mean it is high quality, effective education #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            in the pre-reg survey for the last Alliance webinar 37% did not know what a QR code was...tho 19% said they use twitter. #CMEchat

CommPharm     T1 what scares me the most is the words" we have always done it this way" #cmechat

CuratioCME      @laurenero @reginamotarjeme Yes, but have seen too many examples (e.g. ARS) of using tech just because it is available. #CMEchat

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat I attend non-medical education on Elluminate attended by people from every corner of the world and can't sell idea in medicine

NateOsit           @BrianSMcGowan Ugh, I hate the word "professionalism"! It always seems to be used to limit discussion and discredit passion #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            @ChargeAheadMktg - seems backwards...lack of $$ should drive innovation, no? #CMEchat

laurenero           @reginamotarjeme convincing leadership of the value of using new technologies is worth the cost #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            @reginamotarjeme - slow adoption by providers, by faculty, or by learners? #CMEchat

ChargeAheadMktg         IMHO the $$ is part of the reason  RT @reginamotarjeme: #CMEchat my fear related to slow adaption of great new tech & opportunity for CME

BrianSMcGowan            @CuratioCME the "veil of professionalism" is countless others that falsely use the term and the initials as a badge of credibility #cmechat

NateOsit           RT @BrianSMcGowan: @CuratioCME - the "veil of professionalism" is folks (some well intending) who don't even understand what the word means... #cmechat

CuratioCME      @Bonnycastle Agree, technology in education is great, but we need to learn how to use appropriately. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            @CuratioCME - the "veil of professionalism" is folks (some well intending) who don't even understand what the word means... #cmechat

reginamotarjeme            #CMEchat my fear is related to the slow adaption of great new technology and opportunity for CME

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat Utilization = doctors scattered over a huge province having to drive to central location for CME

CuratioCME      @BrianSMcGowan Can you explain what you mean by "veil of professionalism"? #cmechat

laurenero           Lauren here in lovely Maryland #CMEchat #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            @Bonnycastle - great point....still so little adoption of small group learning/training. and even less taking place on the "wards" #CMEchat

theCMEguy       T1: I worry about the regulation aspects of CME overwhelming the educational aspects #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            My fear continues to be the veil of professionalism and the lack of scientifically sound innovation in the CME community #CMEchat

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat 2. What scares me is the over reliance on videoconferencing tools that were created for large classrooms not intimate gatherings

BrianSMcGowan            @Bonnycastle - what do you mean by utilization? #CMEchat

CuratioCME      @BrianSMcGowan A touch of writer's block? #cmechat

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat What scares me is the lack of utilization by CME programs in Canada of Social Media

BrianSMcGowan            @theCMEguy - so it is that we work as a smallgroup intervention... #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            I learned that some days word flow like water in august, other times they flow like syrup in january...#CMEchat

theCMEguy       Seems like we're missing quite a few today...#CMEchat

JuanCIvancevich           RT @Bonnycastle: Social Media in Medical Education  t.co/ZJsmnVCf #meded #CMEchat

CMEChat          T1: in honor of Halloween, what scares you the most about the way CME is provided today? #CMEchat (note we have an international audience.)

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat I learned that researchers use of digital tools has changed day to day practice in universities profoundly

BrianSMcGowan            @meducate is over the pond participating at #efp and we miss him dearly at #CMEchat

theCMEguy       This is what I learned this week (blatant self-promotion ahead) t.co/30dwdVis #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            @Bonnycastle - g' morning Bonny - and welcome. #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            @reginamotarjeme - well hello there regina - it felt like DEnver here on the east coast for the past 3 days... #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            while we wait for folks to join us and we welcome new faces...what have you learned in the past week #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            today we try a lighter take on #CMEchat and as @theCMEguy has noted, be free to take the conversation whereever you like...no holds barred

theCMEguy       It IS a Swingline...RT @BrianSMcGowan: ...you will always have your stapler RT @theCMEguy: About to go "Office Space" on copier. #cmechat

reginamotarjeme            Regina in snow packed Denver, I hope to be able to stay on a while today:) #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            for our colleagues anywhere NE of philly...hope all is well with the storm-ravaged-ness of your weekend! #CMEchat

Bonnycastle      #CMEchat I'm Deirdre Bonnycastle, clinical teaching development coordinator, University of Saskatchewan College of Medicine

BrianSMcGowan            ...you will always have your stapler...RT @theCMEguy: Derek in Exton. About to go "Office Space" on the copier. #cmechat

ChargeAheadMktg         Glenn in storm- and snow-ravaged CT, multitasking as usual, probably lurking on fringes of convo again 2day #cmechat

BrianSMcGowan            @sd90mac6000 - we will miss you...be sure to gaze into your proverbial crystal ball today and comment later! #CMEChat

theCMEguy       Derek in Exton. About to go "Office Space" on the copier. #cmechat

kenny_cox        Kenny in wonderful Springfield MO favorite topic - crystal ball gazing #cmechat

CMEChat          As with each #CMEchat the archive will be available at t.co/nOLVEvIB and archived as a pdf on www.CMEadvocate.com

CMEChat          As with each #CMEchat we will guide the convo with 3 or 4 topics, but the real learning and teaching lies in your tweets - please engage.

CMEChat          Rule 7. A few mins before the end of #CMEchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too - #makingfriends

CMEChat          Rule 6. On #CMEchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really. Seriously. #laughingislearning

Bonnycastle      Confessions of a Converted Lecturer: Eric Mazur  video t.co/msBaPFB8 #meded #CMEchat

CMEChat          Rule 5. Periodically RT questions so those outside #CMEchat know what you’re talking about & so they can chime in too

CMEChat          Rule 4. Please remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the #CMEchat participants can follow the #CMEchat discussion!!!!

sd90mac6000    My worst fear realized: I can't join #CMEChat today.  Have a great chat everyone!  Happy All Souls' Day and National Deviled Egg Day (US)!

CMEChat          Rule 3. When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #CMEchat

CMEChat          Rule 2. [try to] stay on the #CMEchat topic. A new question will be asked every 12 min or so. If you can, include T# in related responses.

CMEChat          Rules for #CMEchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here today?

CMEChat          Welcome to #CMEchat. All discussions herein are assumed to be personal opinion & not that of current, past, or future employers.

BrianSMcGowan            Getting ready fo #CMEchat - Pandora radio is the soundtrack...feels like a Ray Lamontagne kind of day...

Berci     RT @Bonnycastle: Social Media in Medical Education  t.co/ZJsmnVCf #meded #CMEchat

Bonnycastle      Social Media in Medical Education  t.co/ZJsmnVCf #meded #CMEchat

BrianSMcGowan            Please join us for #CMEchat in 25 minutes when, in honor of halloween, we gaze into our crystal ball & confront our fears... Wed 11AM ET

 

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