#CMEchat 32 - What skills are needed for (virtual) social learning?
Our topics for today were as follow:
T1 - SoMe & CME require new skills for assessing credibility & reputation – how is reputation currently established & vetted w/i SoMe? #CMEchat
T2 - SoMe & CME require new skills for critical thinking – how can we teach learners to be open to but skeptical of new information? #CMEchat
T3 - SoMe & CME require new skills for filtering & curation – how would you teach those new to SoMe to use their time effectively. #CMEchat
T4 - SoMe & CME require new skills for SHARING feedback/criticism – how must ‘feedback’ be altered/refined to fit in SoMe channels? #CMEchat
T5 - SoMe & CME require new skills for RECEIVING feedback – how should those of the receiving end adapt to ‘virtual’ feedback? #CMEchat
The transcript can be reviewed below or downloaded HERE:
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BrianSMcGowan Also pls feel free to participate in the global CME unsession being run by @meducate FRIDAY 9AMET using #4ECF. questions welcomed. #CMEchat
theCMEguy @MedPedsDoctor Need 5 minutes to go to locker and move on to next class... #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan Yup & b/c convo usually lingers for a few... RT @MedPedsDoctor: why end the chat 10 min before end of the hour? To get in lunch? #cmechat
spelletier #TOTD RT @katellington: T1 evidence of rigor, public discourse, and evaluation improve credibility with #SoMe #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor QOTD (not TOTD): why end the chat 10 min before end of the hour? To get in lunch line early? #cmechat
spelletier @theCMEguy Me too—this was much more interesting than proofreading... #cmechat
spelletier TOTD RT @meducate: So its like urology! MT @BrianSMcGowan: MT @spelletier: t3 ...so you can start w/ clearer stream. trust is key #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan just scratching the surface here - so much more to discuss! Thanks to all for joining and sharing! #CMEchat
theCMEguy That went fast. So much for multitasking... #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor @BrianSMcGowan Blocking is hard, but signal-to-noise makes it hard to justify following too many, esp if interests are diff #cmechat
CMEChat The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action - engage others to participate & please take action on things your have learned! G’day
theCMEguy V. important. Annoying when people comment but don't reply to follow-up RT @BrianSMcGowan: t5 - and feel free to follow up. #CMEchat
CMEChat As we get wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat.
CMEChat Thx for participating in #CMEchat. discussions herein are assumed 2 b personal opinion & not that of current, past, or future employers.
spelletier @BrianSMcGowan Yes, followup is key. Only so far you can go before taking it offline. Gr8 things can come from this, tho #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t5 - one thing is certain escalating a misunderstanding never helps...and blocking differing opinions is counterproductive! #CMEchat
DownstateCME agree, it all depends RT @spelletier: t5 :..Feedback taken differently depending on sources cred/rep/ur exp with that source #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor T5. I had a 30-tweet conversation with someone about following him. His interests: diff than mine —> no follow. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t5 - and feel free to follow up. if someone provides comments/criticism ask them to explain it...see if there is substance therein. #CMEchat
theCMEguy T5: @dean_jenkins is not following me. What's up with that!!! ;-) #cmechat
spelletier @BrianSMcGowan Yup. and if source is unknown, I wouldn't give much cred to the feedback (or try not to) #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan do people do this? seems to strange to me. RT @MedPedsDoctor: T5. Do NOT take it personally if someone doesn't follow you. #cmechat
theCMEguy T5: Don't take it personally. Have a sense of humor. Understand limits of the medium on meaning #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan so back to T1? what if the source is unknown. ;-) RT @spelletier: t5 remember to consider the source #cmechat
spelletier "t5 goes back to the cred question again. Feedback taken differently depending on source's cred/rep/ur exp with that source #cmechat"
MedPedsDoctor T5. Do NOT take it personally if someone doesn't follow you. #cmechat
theCMEguy @MedPedsDoctor No, I don't think so. Write differently for different mediums. My tweets are diff than my blog writing. #cmechat
spelletier t5 remember to consider the source #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan slightly different - but when you get feedback what skills help you digest it professionally. #CMEchat
spelletier t5 grow a mile-thick skin #cmechat
CMEChat T5 - SoMe & CME require new skills for RECEIVING feedback – how should those of the receiving end adapt to ‘virtual’ feedback? #CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan I agree with that. I think taking away anonymity is one step. Having a monitor is another. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor General comment: are people's writing skills diminishing with Tw? Maybe one's grant "specific aims" are shorter?? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t4 - increasingly some are using #sarcasm #IMHO or other hashtags to provide perspective to feedback...this never hurts either. #CMEchat
spelletier t4 depends on if it's an open or closed environment, anonymous or known peers. Troll elimination can b tough #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor T3. Is there a job description for "content curator"? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy - not exactly. I mean simply disagreeing. correcting. mentoring. all can be misunderstood. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor T4 is a difficult question. 140 char: hard to share comments without offending others, beyond saying "I disagree". Use DM more #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t4 - virtual feedback is tough and feedback in <140 characters is frighteningly delicate - but it can be done. #CMEchat
theCMEguy T4: So are you asking how we can eliminate trolling? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan share success stories never hurts! RT @MedPedsDoctor: T3. Now I am MORE efficient, not less #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor T3. Start slow with SoMe, pick one medium (Tw vs. FB vs. LinkedIn), build over time. Now I am MORE efficient, not less #cmechat
CMEChat T4 - SoMe & CME require new skills for SHARING feedback/criticism – how must ‘feedback’ be altered/refined to fit in SoMe channels? #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan like @pfanderson !!!! MT @spelletier: T3 need a new career category: content curators whose whole job is to do this help us....#cmechat
spelletier @meducate exactly like urology (says Sue, choking with laughter!) #cmechat
rmtyner TOTD RT @meducate: So it's like urology! MT @BrianSMcGowan: MT @spelletier: t3 ...so you can start w/ clearer stream. trust is key #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @DownstateCME - no doubt. I simply said time is 'one of the top barriers'. fear is definitely up there too... #cmechat
meducate So it's like urology! MT @BrianSMcGowan: #TOTD MT @spelletier: t3 ...so you can start w/ clearer stream. trust is key #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Alex Djuricich, from Indianapolis, joining late, after meeting went over. #cmechat
spelletier T3 OT a bit: need a new career category: content curators whose whole job is to do this for us, like super cyber librarians #cmechat
DownstateCME disagree..i think it's fear! RT @BrianSMcGowan:T3-no matter who asks the question TIME is 1 of the top barriers to using SoMe. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T3 - what is the point of adding +1 or w00t to the front of a RT - or even a RT for that matter...#CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan #TOTD MT @spelletier: t3 find others who can do the initial filtering...so you can start w/ clearer stream. trust is key #cmechat
spelletier t3 key is to find others who can do the initial filtering out of the serious dross so you can start w/ clearer stream. trust is key #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan I would think a few screen grab videos of hashtags and lists and bookmarking would be a great start...focused on #Meded #CMEchat
theCMEguy T3: For me, it wasn't so much skill as learning the tools. tweetdeck, google reader, zite, etc, etc... #CMEchat
DownstateCME it'a an acquired skill..RT@theCMEguy:T3:Important question as I believe lack of these "skills" is wht drives many away from SoMe... #cmechat
rmtyner @theCMEguy in the people that i have talked to about this lately, it is about fear of something publicized by main stream media #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan tho I may scan it...or atleast it seems that way. RT @theCMEguy: T3: Don't read EVERYTHING! #cmechat
theCMEguy T3: Don't read EVERYTHING! #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T3 - no matter who asks the question TIME is 1 of the top barriers to using SoMe. Filtering and curation can help this. surely. #CMEchat
theCMEguy T3: Important question as I believe lack of these "skills" is what drives many away from SoMe... #CMEchat
rmtyner T3 i think it is a matter of following those you trust at first and then walking your on path #CMEchat #mentor
BrianSMcGowan my point is that the scientific method can be taught - tho often by trial and error you learn to look elsewhere for truth #CMEchat
rmtyner T3 - SoMe & CME require new skills for filtering & curation – how would you teach those new to SoMe to use their time effectively. #CMEchat
CMEChat T3 - SoMe & CME require new skills for filtering & curation – how would you teach those new to SoMe to use their time effectively. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan critical thinking & establishing credibility r different names for the same thing = scientific method. asking the right questions. #CMEchat
mathena123 #CMEchat I think we start those skills in history class.
theCMEguy @rmtyner Have to disagree a bit. College is where my crit thinking skills were developed. #cmechat Depends on the individual...
rmtyner the doctoral process reprograms your thought process, that is for sure! #CMEchat RT @mathena123: @BrianSMcGowa… (cont) t.co/iXPxLaXZ
BrianSMcGowan @mathena123 ;-) not at all what I was suggesting...but the point of a biomedical PhD is to adopt scientific method... #cmechat
spelletier Uh oh, I may be doomed...RT @mathena123 does that means that you have to have a phd to develop critical skills? #cmechat
mathena123 @BrianSMcGowan does that means that you have to have a phd to develop critical skills? #cmechat
rmtyner Safe travels! RT @meducate: @BrianSMcGowan #cmechat And with that I bid you adieu as I board a flight to Amsterdam
DownstateCME T2: not always possible , some are not tech savvy...@spelletier.more cred goes to those who can back up what they say with links, #cmechat
spelletier @theCMEguy I think so—point them toward some bad info disseminated thru SoMe and bad effects it caused-no one wants to get burned #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan #TOTD RT @rmtyner: IMO we teach critical thinking out of students! #CMEchat
meducate @BrianSMcGowan #cmechat And with that I bid you adieu as I board a flight to Amsterdam
rmtyner IMO we teach critical thinking out of students! #CMEchat RT @theCMEguy: T2: Can you "teach" someone to be ope… (cont) t.co/bReSEfj5
BrianSMcGowan This is what a phd does, no? RT @theCMEguy: T2: Can you "teach" someone to be open & skeptical if they r not geared that way #cmechat
rmtyner I totally agree! #CMEchat RT @spelletier: t2 more cred goes to those who can back up what they say with links… (cont) t.co/vZQ7cvk2
theCMEguy T2: Can you "teach" someone to be open & skeptical if they are not already geared that way #cmechat
spelletier t2 more cred goes to those who can back up what they say with links, further info/data, not just bloviate in 140 chars #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T2 - so @meducate is now suggesting we assess the credibility of the crowds as the first step....logical, but different challenges. #CMEchat
ChargeAheadMktg T2: effectively train them on aspects of evaluating reputation & cred., along w/ training them on using #SoMe itself. #cmechat
DrMez #CMEchat Ramez here for Los Angeles. Academic medicine fellow. Interested in GME and CME.
theCMEguy T2: Learn from experience. Read the reactions of others to data / new info. Compare 2 own beliefs #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T2 - critical thinking might be at the root of the credibility & reputation question...we need to create meta-cognitive dissonance? #CMEchat
ChargeAheadMktg RT @spelletier: @meducate tho wisdom of crowd can be unwise. Was in online grp whose leader discounted anyone w/ diff opinion. Discredited cred ppl #cmechat
spelletier t1 personality of grp leaders can be key 2 who's credible and who's not on a SoMe channel #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @spelletier - that is exactly what I mean...tougher to earn credibility in my eyes in virtual spaces... #cmechat
meducate @BrianSMcGowan #cmechat The wisdom could be either right or wrong - need to assess their rationale
theCMEguy Bingo RT @BrianSMcGowan: funny, i tend to be leery of that very thing...RT @meducate: #cmechat
spelletier @meducate tho wisdom of crowd can be unwise. Was in online grp whose leader discounted anyone w/ diff opinion. Discredited cred ppl #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan funny, i tend to be leery of that very thing...RT @meducate: #cmechat The Wisdom of the Crowds helps me to decide about credibility
theCMEguy @meducate I don't know...sometimes find myself not agreeing w/ the conventional wisdom #cmechat
spelletier @BrianSMcGowan but is the bar really higher? I'm more skeptical of SoMe than IRL, takes more to prove cred without face time #cmechat
CMEChat T2 - SoMe & CME require new skills for critical thinking – how can we teach learners 2 be open 2 but skeptical of new info.? #CMEchat
meducate @BrianSMcGowan #cmechat The Wisdom of the Crowds helps me to decide about credibility
theCMEguy Makes sense... RT @katellington: T1 evidence of rigor, public discourse, and evaluation improve credibility with #SoMe #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan seems even tougher on SoMe...higher bar...RT @spelletier: t1 so it's a concern just as much IRL as it is in SoMe? Differences? #cmechat
katellington T1 evidence of rigor, public discourse, and evaluation improve credibility with #SoMe #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t1 - i pay attention to the credit and attributions that folks give...those that are most giving of attribution seem to get 'it' #CMEchat
ChargeAheadMktg T1: reputation can also be relevant term, ie. big fish to small pond. Ur rep & cred is whatever your network says it is. #cmechat
spelletier @BrianSMcGowan t1 so it's a concern just as much IRL as it is in SoMe? Differences? #cmechat
meducate Wait, so i shouldn't RT myself? RT @BrianSMcGowan: t1 - I have grave concern w/ self-promotion (Guru's). #CMEchat
spelletier Exactly. RT @theCMEguy: T1: Problem with Klout, etc is that there r def ways to milk the system. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t1 - i also have concern that folks may be less than critical of assessing reputation IRL too...this too would then carryover. #CMEchat
DownstateCME agree..RT @spelletier: @meducate t1 it isnt about followers/following for me, either. Sme with no followers jst havent bn found yet #cmechat
theCMEguy Agree. Profile is telling. RT @BrianSMcGowan: t1 - I have grave concern w/ self-promotion (Guru's). #CMEchat
spelletier @BrianSMcGowan but self-promoters are awfully obvious usually (unless they're really good. Then they have something worth promo) #cmechat
theCMEguy T1: Problem with Klout, etc is that there r def ways to milk the system. Just cuz u tweet or blog alot doesn't mean u have cred #cmechat
ChargeAheadMktg @spelletier good pt there will always be newbies who arent found yet. yet network size is def is a bell of reputation/influence. #cmechat
DownstateCME T1: it's engagement and what you have to bring to the conversation #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan please elaborate. RT @katellington: @CMEChat T1 Research, dissmenation and evaluation make a difference in #SoMe and CME #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan t1 - I have grave concern w/ self-promotion (Guru's). #CMEchat
spelletier @meducate t1 it isn't about followers/following for me, either. Some with no followers just haven't been found yet #cmechat
ChargeAheadMktg T1: reputation estab using personal engagement, quality of knowledge shared. eval of reputation can def be subjective, varies. #cmechat
theCMEguy T1: starts w/ previous rep, recs of others. But rep is established by what you do. Are you one and done or do you maintain? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t1 - w/o body language, intonation and in < 140 characters it is tough....but over times contributions = reputation = credibility #CMEchat
meducate #CMEchat T1 It certainly isn't related to followers or following. Or the ratio between them
katellington @CMEChat T1 Research, dissmenation and evaluation make a difference in #SoMe and CME #CMEchat
spelletier T1 I don't trust Klout. For me it is seeing what they say—regular, intelligent interactions build cred #cmechat
mathena123 #CMEchat registration and accreditation? Afternoon from London.
ChargeAheadMktg t1: lol was also gonna say Klout, altho you have to recognize its limitations/nuances #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan naturally. this should have some carryover. RT @spelletier: T1 is a good question. Many already have cred IRL they bring to SoMe #cmechat
rmtyner T1 for me it is current reputation - who else follows them that i know #CMEchat
gullapalli09 "Venkat in Jersey City here. Looking forward to the chat. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1 - seems like everbody is on their own to assess credibility - perhaps a systems like klout and others might help (or hurt) #CMEchat
theCMEguy T1: With Klout of course! #sarcasm #cmechat
spelletier T1 is a good question. Many already have cred IRL they bring to SoMe #cmechat
meducate @theCMEguy @rmtyner #cmechat yeah post-election drag...not
BrianSMcGowan RT @CMEChat: T1 - SoMe & CME require new skills 4 assessing credibility & reputation. how is this currently established w/i SoMe? #CMEchat
meducate @theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan #4ECF I really want to bring everyone into the discussion! #cmechat
theCMEguy Yeah, that's it... RT @rmtyner: Must be the overstimulation from election day #CMEchat
CMEChat T1 - Social Media & CME require new skills 4 assessing credibility & reputation. how is reputation currently established w/i SoMe? #CMEchat
rmtyner Must be the overstimulation from election day RT @BrianSMcGowan: Hello to Derek and Michelle and Sue - slow arriving crowd today...#CMEchat
spelletier @BrianSMcGowan There may be folks who are lurking and listening #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan could be...but it is never to nice to learn...RT @theCMEguy: @BrianSMcGowan Maybe the weather is TOO nice... #cmechat
DownstateCME Edeline fm Brooklyn, great topic today #cmechat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan Maybe the weather is TOO nice... #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan Hello to Derek and Michelle and Sue - slow arriving crowd today...#CMEchat
theCMEguy Come w/ Q's abt Euro CME RT @BrianSMcGowan: global unsession being run by @meducate this FRIDAY 9AMET using #4ECF details 2 follow. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan The success of SoMe & CME is dependent on sharing - today we will discuss skills learners need for online sharing/social learning! #CMEchat
spelletier Sue in Mass is here, happy to have power & Internet again post nor'easter! Will b dropping in and out-have to get magazine out 2day #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan Also please feel free to participate in the global unsession being run by @meducate this FRIDAY 9AMET using #4ECF details 2 follow. #CMEchat
rmtyner Michelle in Indiana! Always looking for inspiration #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan we will take some time for folks to arrive and introduce themselves - #CMEchat
theCMEguy Derek in Exton, PA. Multitasking today but will participate as I'm able. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan hope all is well - stimulating topic today - and beautiful weather here in the northeast US. Brian here moderating #CMEchat
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