#CMEchat 33 - Global Collaboration and Quality-driven Education

Thanks to @meducate for stepping in and guest hosting this week.

Here are our topics:

#CMEChat Q1 What are the opportunities for global collaboration and partnership in CME. Was a hot topic at #4ECF last week 

#CMEChat Q2 Where can we look outside of the paucity of CME literature to learn about lifelong learning and educational professionalism? 

#CMEChat Q3 What do you use as quality measures for the CME activities that you are involved in developing, funding, etc.? 
(I'll ref the HIV slide set on quality to stimulate discussion) 

#CMEChat Q4 How can we best use ongoing government initiatives (data) in our CME activities see 
http://www.healthypeople.gov/2020/LHI/default.aspx 

#CMEChat Q5 Just for fun: what additional topics do you think we should cover in our chats in 2012? 

The transcripts can be reviewed below or downloaded
HERE:

From User           Tweet

dean_jenkins    @JediPD can you do some Qs for @onexamination and we can test knowledge there as well. Compare UK! t.co/T6DKrwV9  #cmechat

JediPD  Knowledge is there but not fully! Firewalls to good care=cost, ins approvals etc. t.co/37RbEb51 #CMEchat #hcsm

spelletier             my latest editorial is about constant connectivity or lack thereof—managed to slip in a #cmechat mention: t.co/okiUNoqS

theCMEguy        Please accept this audio apology for missing #cmechat t.co/GHx0zwsn, via Audioboo app

engage_attract @meducate How do we vote for #TOTD? What format shld we send the vote in? #cmechat

engage_attract RT @cmeadvocate Too late for Q5? I nominate discussion of how to better disseminate info post-conference, see t.co/uHhKeZrD #cmechat

ChargeAheadMktg          damn it, got done w/ stuff to late and missed #cmechat again

kenny_cox          @meducate - Thanks for moderating today - and i understand is your turn to buy - #cmechat

audioboo             @MedPedsDoctor Great stuff - welcome to the family! :) Kate #CMEchat

spelletier             Too late for Q5? I nominate discussion of how to better  disseminate info post-conference, see t.co/SUQBBGFU by @cmeadvocate #cmechat

meducate           By the power vested in my by @BrianSMcGowan I hereby close this #cmechat session!  Thanks everyone

meducate           Made up TOTD! RT @dean_jenkins: #TOTD RT @meducate If we're going down the pub then it's my round.  #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Someone on Twitter has to have created a commitment to change program? #cmechat

JediPD  @kenny_cox Mandates are diff then Risk Mitigation Strategies. Latter has defined hazards  #CMEchat

dean_jenkins    #TOTD RT @meducate If we're going down the pub then it's my round.  #cmechat

meducate           I think that @audioboo is gonna like reading this thread!  Anyone else want to try to do an audio summary #cmechat

meducate           3.The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action - please engage others to participate & please take action on things your have learned

dean_jenkins    Q5 Uses of @audioboo in CME.  #cmechat

meducate           2.As we get wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat.

meducate           1.Thank you for participating in #CMEchat. All tweets herein are assumed to be personal opinion & not that of you current or past employers.

MedPedsDoctor               New learning app for dissemination of the day: @audioboo . Loaded it this AM already. #cmechat

meducate           Looks like Q5 #cmechat was the participants favorite today!

kenny_cox          @medpedsdoctor 3. Will the Cubs win? Not if the Cards keep sir Albert  #cmechat

meducate           I'm going to wind this down - did you all see/hear my @audioboo promo for the #cmechat this week?  I may try an audio summary of this ession

MedPedsDoctor               Q5. What is the reason a few states do not required minimum # of CME hrs?  Are they behind ... or ahead? #cmechat

meducate           @MedPedsDoctor Or the Mets #cmechat #toughtobeafansometimes

dean_jenkins    cool RT @meducate: @dean_jenkins  crowdsourced validation/refutation of info in the searches? #cmechat

meducate           Our ongoing dialogue! RT @dean_jenkins: Q5 How to encourage doing CME for the CME not the points. #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Additional topics: 1. intersection of GME and CME. 2. should all of CME be changed in name to CPD? 3. Will the Cubs win #cmechat

kenny_cox          #cmechat - would like to continue the discussion of global CME issues

dean_jenkins    Q5 How to encourage doing CME for the CME not the points. #cmechat

meducate           @dean_jenkins #cmechat crowdsourced validation/refutation of info in the searches?

meducate           @JediPD Thanks! #cmechat

dean_jenkins    And collaboratively filtered. RT @MedPedsDoctor: Right on! MT @meducate: #cmechat You mean regularly run PubMed searches? #cmechat

meducate           #CMEChat Q5 Just for fun: what additional topics do you think we should cover in our chats in 2012?

meducate           Hey folks, time is a tickin' away...here is Q5 #cmechat

JediPD  @meducate Spoken like a true Mentor!  #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Need both data and "personal story".  When a major governmental official's loved one is hospitalized: things happen. #cmechat

dean_jenkins    Sometimes but sometimes the exact opposite. RT @JediPD: @dean_jenkins Q4: Can mandates/initiatives drive learning?  #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Right on! MT @meducate: @MedPedsDoctor #cmechat You mean regularly run searches?  Great idea #cmechat

meducate           @JediPD #cmechat Mandates drive need and participation but may not facilitate actual learning

JediPD  @dean_jenkins Q4: Can mandates/initiatives drive learning?  #CMEchat

meducate           @MedPedsDoctor #cmechat You mean regularly run searches?  Great idea

dean_jenkins    Q4 Large data sets will be a fantastic resource for learning communities in CME.  #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Q4. How about using searches under PubMed to find information?  Isn't PubMed a gov't-run site? #cmechat

dean_jenkins    Q4 Government initiatives can help enrolment into CME programmes as they will be perceived as important.  #cmechat

meducate           The floor is now open for responses to Q1-Q4 @#cmechat

meducate           @DownstateCME #cmechat Do you share your checklist with other CME Stakeholders?

meducate           @JediPD #cmechat Hold that thought until Q5....

DownstateCME                cklist fm A2Z; Q3 What do you use as quality measures for the CME activities that you are involved in developing, funding, etc.? #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Q3.  Comparison could be "pre-intervention", and then compare to post. #cmechat

JediPD  EBM is the big-wig term. Some issues, maybe next chat on EBM? RT @meducate: For Q3 See t.co/Da5HWXFl #cmechat

meducate           @dean_jenkins And I agree with that point as well #cmechat

dean_jenkins    @meducate I agree but the discipline of getting something into print helps focus on what the outcomes are intended to be. #cmechat

meducate           Following up on quality, #CMEChat Q4 How can we best use ongoing government initiatives (data) in our CME acti… (cont) t.co/pFWkoSOO

kenny_cox          @dean_jenkins Publication plan is a crucial element - exposure always increases focus on quality #cmechat

meducate           Q4 on its way....#cmechat

meducate           @dean_jenkins #cmechat if only that everything that was published was of high quality (no offense...)

meducate           @MedPedsDoctor Maybe so, but what to you compare the patient/population results to?  What standards exist? @#cmechat

dean_jenkins    Q3 Of the CME collaborations I've been involved with we always aim to publish something. Publicity helps the focus on quality.  #cmechat

JediPD  @CECSarahG @meducate Industry self-capitalizes on marketing via "rudder-less" individuals.  #CMEchat

dean_jenkins    Q3 Off the CME collaborations I've been involved with we always aim to publish something. Publicity helps the focus on quality. #cmechat

meducate           @spelletier #cmechat Touche!

MedPedsDoctor               Q3. External CME quality measure: Impact on patients/populations.  Hardest to achieve or "see", though. #cmechat

spelletier             @meducate delay due to reading 35-page pdf you just posted ;> #cmechat

meducate           Looks like Q3 has caused a delay in the action #cmechat

meducate           I think that we need internal and external quality measures in CME #cmechat

meducate           For Q3 See t.co/uKvKyv1I #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Q3. Quality measures: if they come back next year! #cmechat

CECSarahG          Commercialism = funding from people who want us to do infomercials for them. @meducate #CMEchat

JediPD  @dean_jenkins Recently charged.  All four came (forces) together for that one #CMEchat

meducate           Autonomic maybe...RT @dean_jenkins: Commercialism? I thought we were an autonomous collective?  #cmechat

dean_jenkins    Commercialism? I thought we were an autonomous collective?  #cmechat

meducate           #CMEChat Q3 What do you use as quality measures for the CME activities that you are involved in developing, funding, etc.?

meducate           Staying on time so here comes Q3 #cmechat

CECSarahG          Looks like I need to duck out early today. Sorry, was enjoying the #CMEchat

meducate           Exactly.  I often post with the #mentoring hashtag RT @JediPD: Passion <~> #mentoring  #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               Educational Professionalism: t.co/y9WfMids  #cmechat

dean_jenkins    RT @CECSarahG: Getting the commercialism out of CME should raise the educational professionalism. Paying the bills, though... #cmechat

meducate           @CECSarahG #CMEChat What exactly do you mean by commercialism?

dean_jenkins    sounds good RT @meducate: @dean_jenkins #mentoring is an area of great interest...we should think about that as a future topic! #cmechat

JediPD  Passion <~> #mentoring  #CMEchat

CECSarahG          Getting the commercialism out of CME should raise the educational professionalism. Paying the bills, though... @meducate #CMEChat

meducate           I'm getting ready to tee up Q3 #cmechat — is the pace ok for everyone?

dean_jenkins    @JediPD very deep ... the force is strong, ;-) #cmechat

meducate           @dean_jenkins #mentoring is an area of great interest...we should think about that as a future topic! #cmechat

JediPD  @meducate @dean_jenkins Thought Math was based on Philosophy and Axioms and Medicine is caught in that crossfire  #CMEchat

mtmdphd            RT @bestdoctors: Join > 50 physicians for super star panel/webinar tomorrow  - Physicians 2.0  bit.ly/ulbcF6  feat @hjluks @drmikesevilla @mtmdphd  #cmechat

spelletier             Q2 gaming industry also should have a lot we could learn from #cmechat

dean_jenkins    Q2 mentoring on this course at the moment t.co/UHDkGWvA find that useful for ideas in CME too. #cmechat

meducate           Is educational professionalism missing in a lot of CME? #CMEChat

meducate           Philosophy is also a good basis RT @dean_jenkins: Q2 medicine endures of course but the facts change ... unlike in maths.  #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               Educational Professionalism: @ABIMFoundation has done a lot.  Also, Arnold P. Gold Foundation has a RFP. #cmechat

spelletier             Q2 One would help educational field in general would have some good things to build on #cmechat

dean_jenkins    Q2 medicine endures of course but the facts change ... unlike in maths.  #cmechat

meducate           TOTD (completely self-serving vote) RT @JediPD: @meducate Now I know why some of your tweets are humorous.  #CMEchat

JediPD  @meducate Now I know why some of your tweets are humorous.  #CMEchat

meducate           @spelletier #cmechat Marketing and education sharing is a two-way street...I have taught and learned a lot from marketeers

kenny_cox          #cmechat Just sat through a talk on media use that had many applications RE cme and how HCP learn

dean_jenkins    Q2 Always found the maths world a fascinating one for ideas. They deal with something that endures (unlike medicine) so have time.  #cmechat

spelletier             Q2 marketing also delving into neuroscience of learning, which is interesting #cmechat

kenny_cox          #cmechat - Agree @spelletier looking at the mrkting field for advances in communicating-educating-excellent resource for research

dean_jenkins    @meducate #digitalscholar - think open, networked and digital and apply it to scholarly functions.  #cmechat

meducate           Q2 #cmechat Some of my best educational lessons were learned during my time as a comedian.  How to know, read and impact an audience...

JediPD  Intrigue is a way to captivate the initiated  #CMEchat

spelletier             Lots of marketing research on how to best get messages across, how ppl learn, how to change behavior #cmechat

meducate           @dean_jenkins #cmechat What are your key takeaways from the book?

dean_jenkins    Q2 Been reading @mweller's #digitalscholar lately and found it very interesting. #cmechat

meducate           @spelletier #cmechat  can you expand a little?

spelletier             Q2 this will sound weird, but marketing field always is at forefront of "education" in a sense #cmechat

meducate           @JediPD #cmechat Absolutely, and we are all self-directed.  I look outside of CME and medicine for lessons that i can bring back in

JediPD  Q2: Lifelong learning is a personal ambition, no?  #CMEchat

meducate           OK, folks...Q2 has been posted #cmechat - switch gears when you can...

meducate           @dean_jenkins #CMEChat...me too...geolocation at events and online is very interesting

kenny_cox          #cmechat - always good to engage the attendees with ? upfront about tw use - ARS is a good way to get them thinking about utilization

dean_jenkins    @MedPedsDoctor try harder next time! #cmechat

meducate           @MedPedsDoctor #CMEChat - those folks didn't get it...meeting tweeting broadens the reach and reinforces learning.  Keep it up!

dean_jenkins    @meducate I'm getting quite interested in fsci's per minute (foursquare checkins) too.  #cmechat

JediPD  @meducate @medpedsdoctor Can the Server handle the traffic?  #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               When I left #aamc11 , I had posted a significant # of tweets.  Had a few saying "you tweeted too much" (but no fail whale) #cmechat

meducate           #CMEChat Q2 Where can we look outside of the paucity of CME literature to learn about lifelong learning and educational professionalism?

meducate           Ready for Q2??  #CMEChat...here it is...

meducate           @kenny_cox #cmechat The opportunities and challenges are relatively equal globally in my experience

dean_jenkins    Q1 We've also found that doing collaborations in an educational research context are very helpful.  #cmechat

meducate           @MedPedsDoctor #cmechat I don't think so, but would be interesting.  I am interested in TPMs (tweets per minute)

kenny_cox          #cmechat - Do you see a greater challenge with Europe - Asia - ?  What system is the biggest challenge?

MedPedsDoctor               Has anyone studied the impact of using Tw hashtags at meetings in a formal sense?  # of tweets, # of links posted, etc.? #cmechat

dean_jenkins    Q1 A strong personal network of trust is essential before embarking on a collaboration OR a very keen sponsor upfront. :-)  #cmechat

meducate           Q2 #CMEChat coming up soon...very different topic from Q1...oh, and hi @spelletier

meducate           @spelletier #CMEChat Those discussions focused on harmonization...that isn't what is needed.  Smart collaborations and local ed is better

JediPD  Webcasts, Podcasts are great, but a Tweeable interactive forum for live Q&A with links from presenter would be great!  #CMEchat

CECSarahG          T1. We get some global traffic, since we're web-centered. Challenge has been broadening fields to accommodate non-US info. #cmechat

dean_jenkins    @meducate don't start trying to explain European CME ... we'll be here all day. :-)  #cmechat

spelletier             Sue coming in late. t1 remember talking about this at GAME: agreeing on a common language/terms is key #cmechat

meducate           @meducate #CMEchat But not everywhere in Europe!

meducate           @JediPD #cmechat Accreditation is often the toughest depending where you are geographically...in Europe events are accredited, not providers

meducate           @MedPedsDoctor #cmechat @mathena123 and I just had an abstract accepted on that topic for #cmecongress2012 and I have posted presos abt this

JediPD  @dean_jenkins Agree Ego, Money &  Accreditation (in that order perhaps?)  #CMEchat

MedPedsDoctor               One great collaboration to consider: how to foster use of SoMe for CME purposes.  Students are doing it: how about clinicians? #cmechat

meducate           @kenny_cox #cmechat Understanding roles, not trying to make content fit if the needs are different, avoiding turf wars

meducate           @dean_jenkins #cmechat yes, they do tend to be obstacles, but there was more hope than in the past this year

kenny_cox          What are some of the pitfalls for collaborations globally? #cmechat

meducate           Better link t.co/Vaym7N51 #cmechat  Check it in a couple of weeks

dean_jenkins    Q1 I get the feeling that money, accreditation and ego sometimes get in the way of creativity in CME collaboration. ;-) #cmechat

meducate           Check europeancmeforum.eu RT @kenny_cox: “@meducate: For those not at #4ecf  - are the presentations posted anywhere? #cmechat

MedPedsDoctor               sorry, my meeting ran over a bit.  Alex Djuricich, from Indianapolis, ready to tweet about CME #cmechat

meducate           @DownstateCME #cmechat Various stakeholders like societies, accrediting bodies and providers looking for best practices in global collab

kenny_cox          “@meducate: For those not at #4ecf  - are the presentations posted anywhere? #cmechat

meducate           Q1 #cmechat I find that there are intersesting collaborative opportunities globally...agree that there are challenges too

DownstateCME                Edeline fm Brooklyn here; T1:was not at #4ecf, what was the topic for collaboration? #cmechat

dean_jenkins    Q1 opportunities are there for collaboration certainly. We (BMJ) have done a number over past few years but there are challenges. #cmechat

JediPD  @dean_jenkins Hi there!  #CMEchat

meducate           For those not at #4ecf last week, there were interesting presentations about how to collaborate in CME in Europe #cmechat

dean_jenkins    collaboration? RT @kenny_cox: Ready to go! @dean_jenkins: That makes a handful. Shall we just go down the pub then?  #cmechat

meducate           Perhaps you've all headed for the pub...no responses yet to Q1 #cmechat

kenny_cox          Ready to go! @dean_jenkins: That makes a handful. Shall we just go down the pub then?  #cmechat

dean_jenkins    Hello @JediPD  #cmechat

meducate           #CMEChat Q1 What are the opportunities for global collaboration and partnership in CME.  Was a hot topic at #4ECF last week

meducate           For this week's #cmechat I have a mix of topics...

meducate           Ah!  Two more people...I can now post the first question for #cmechat

JediPD  Present lurkommunicating #CMEchat

dean_jenkins    That makes a handful. Shall we just go down the pub then?  #cmechat

CECSarahG          Greetings from t.co/rjdmmgt9 in Lexington, KY. #cmechat

meducate           I will wait a minute or two to see if anyone else joins #cmechat

meducate           Hey @kenny_cox #cmechat

kenny_cox          #cmechat - Kenny here.  Struggling with bad connection. Looks like it will be a quiet day

meducate           @dean_jenkins  I wonder if it will be just you and I? #cmechat Thanks re @audioboo

dean_jenkins    I'm here. Liked the audioboo intro.  #cmechat

meducate           I've seen Dean, who is over in Cornwall whilst I am in London...#closebutnocigar #CMEChat

meducate           OK, then, with those out of the way...who is  in for #CMEChat today?

meducate           As with each #CMEchat the archive will be available at t.co/UR6mRups and archived as a pdf on www.CMEadvocate.com

meducate           As with each #CMEchat we will guide the convo with 3 or 4 topics, but the real learning and teaching lies in your tweets - please engage.

meducate           Rule7. A few mins before the end of #CMEchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too - #makingfriends

meducate           Rule6. On #CMEchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really. Seriously. #laughingislearning

meducate           Rule5. Periodically RT questions so those outside #CMEchat know what you’re talking about & so they can chime in too

meducate           Rule 4. Please remember to use the #CMEchat hashtag so all of the #CMEchat participants can follow the #CMEchat discussion!!!!

meducate           Rule 3. When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #CMEchat

meducate           Rule 2. [try to] stay on the #CMEchat topic. A new question will be asked every 12 min or so. If you can, include T# in related responses.

meducate           Rules for #CMEchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here today?

meducate           Welcome to #CMEchat. All discussions herein are assumed to be personal opinion & not that of current, past, or future employers.

dean_jenkins    Hello from Cornwall, UK. #cmechat

meducate           Less than a minute until #CMEChat

meducate           Wondering what kind of crowd we will get for #cmechat today....

meducate           #CMEChat in 18 minutes...

meducate           Just about an hour to go...Preview of #CMEChat Week 33 t.co/MgpwcbMN, via @Audioboo app



 

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