#CMEchat 33 - Global Collaboration and Quality-driven Education
Here are our topics:
#CMEChat Q1 What are the opportunities for global collaboration and partnership in CME. Was a hot topic at #4ECF last week
#CMEChat Q2 Where can we look outside of the paucity of CME literature to learn about lifelong learning and educational professionalism?
#CMEChat Q3 What do you use as quality measures for the CME activities that you are involved in developing, funding, etc.?
(I'll ref the HIV slide set on quality to stimulate discussion)
#CMEChat Q4 How can we best use ongoing government initiatives (data) in our CME activities see http://www.healthypeople.gov/2020/LHI/default.aspx
#CMEChat Q5 Just for fun: what additional topics do you think we should cover in our chats in 2012?
The transcripts can be reviewed below or downloaded HERE:
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dean_jenkins @JediPD can you do some Qs for @onexamination and we can test knowledge there as well. Compare UK! t.co/T6DKrwV9 #cmechat
JediPD Knowledge is there but not fully! Firewalls to good care=cost, ins approvals etc. t.co/37RbEb51 #CMEchat #hcsm
spelletier my latest editorial is about constant connectivity or lack thereof—managed to slip in a #cmechat mention: t.co/okiUNoqS
theCMEguy Please accept this audio apology for missing #cmechat t.co/GHx0zwsn, via Audioboo app
engage_attract @meducate How do we vote for #TOTD? What format shld we send the vote in? #cmechat
engage_attract RT @cmeadvocate Too late for Q5? I nominate discussion of how to better disseminate info post-conference, see t.co/uHhKeZrD #cmechat
ChargeAheadMktg damn it, got done w/ stuff to late and missed #cmechat again
kenny_cox @meducate - Thanks for moderating today - and i understand is your turn to buy - #cmechat
audioboo @MedPedsDoctor Great stuff - welcome to the family! :) Kate #CMEchat
spelletier Too late for Q5? I nominate discussion of how to better disseminate info post-conference, see t.co/SUQBBGFU by @cmeadvocate #cmechat
meducate By the power vested in my by @BrianSMcGowan I hereby close this #cmechat session! Thanks everyone
meducate Made up TOTD! RT @dean_jenkins: #TOTD RT @meducate If we're going down the pub then it's my round. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Someone on Twitter has to have created a commitment to change program? #cmechat
JediPD @kenny_cox Mandates are diff then Risk Mitigation Strategies. Latter has defined hazards #CMEchat
dean_jenkins #TOTD RT @meducate If we're going down the pub then it's my round. #cmechat
meducate I think that @audioboo is gonna like reading this thread! Anyone else want to try to do an audio summary #cmechat
meducate 3.The real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action - please engage others to participate & please take action on things your have learned
dean_jenkins Q5 Uses of @audioboo in CME. #cmechat
meducate 2.As we get wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day (#TOTD) seen during this week's #CMEchat.
meducate 1.Thank you for participating in #CMEchat. All tweets herein are assumed to be personal opinion & not that of you current or past employers.
MedPedsDoctor New learning app for dissemination of the day: @audioboo . Loaded it this AM already. #cmechat
meducate Looks like Q5 #cmechat was the participants favorite today!
kenny_cox @medpedsdoctor 3. Will the Cubs win? Not if the Cards keep sir Albert #cmechat
meducate I'm going to wind this down - did you all see/hear my @audioboo promo for the #cmechat this week? I may try an audio summary of this ession
MedPedsDoctor Q5. What is the reason a few states do not required minimum # of CME hrs? Are they behind ... or ahead? #cmechat
meducate @MedPedsDoctor Or the Mets #cmechat #toughtobeafansometimes
dean_jenkins cool RT @meducate: @dean_jenkins crowdsourced validation/refutation of info in the searches? #cmechat
meducate Our ongoing dialogue! RT @dean_jenkins: Q5 How to encourage doing CME for the CME not the points. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Additional topics: 1. intersection of GME and CME. 2. should all of CME be changed in name to CPD? 3. Will the Cubs win #cmechat
kenny_cox #cmechat - would like to continue the discussion of global CME issues
dean_jenkins Q5 How to encourage doing CME for the CME not the points. #cmechat
meducate @dean_jenkins #cmechat crowdsourced validation/refutation of info in the searches?
meducate @JediPD Thanks! #cmechat
dean_jenkins And collaboratively filtered. RT @MedPedsDoctor: Right on! MT @meducate: #cmechat You mean regularly run PubMed searches? #cmechat
meducate #CMEChat Q5 Just for fun: what additional topics do you think we should cover in our chats in 2012?
meducate Hey folks, time is a tickin' away...here is Q5 #cmechat
JediPD @meducate Spoken like a true Mentor! #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Need both data and "personal story". When a major governmental official's loved one is hospitalized: things happen. #cmechat
dean_jenkins Sometimes but sometimes the exact opposite. RT @JediPD: @dean_jenkins Q4: Can mandates/initiatives drive learning? #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Right on! MT @meducate: @MedPedsDoctor #cmechat You mean regularly run searches? Great idea #cmechat
meducate @JediPD #cmechat Mandates drive need and participation but may not facilitate actual learning
JediPD @dean_jenkins Q4: Can mandates/initiatives drive learning? #CMEchat
meducate @MedPedsDoctor #cmechat You mean regularly run searches? Great idea
dean_jenkins Q4 Large data sets will be a fantastic resource for learning communities in CME. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Q4. How about using searches under PubMed to find information? Isn't PubMed a gov't-run site? #cmechat
dean_jenkins Q4 Government initiatives can help enrolment into CME programmes as they will be perceived as important. #cmechat
meducate The floor is now open for responses to Q1-Q4 @#cmechat
meducate @DownstateCME #cmechat Do you share your checklist with other CME Stakeholders?
meducate @JediPD #cmechat Hold that thought until Q5....
DownstateCME cklist fm A2Z; Q3 What do you use as quality measures for the CME activities that you are involved in developing, funding, etc.? #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Q3. Comparison could be "pre-intervention", and then compare to post. #cmechat
JediPD EBM is the big-wig term. Some issues, maybe next chat on EBM? RT @meducate: For Q3 See t.co/Da5HWXFl #cmechat
meducate @dean_jenkins And I agree with that point as well #cmechat
dean_jenkins @meducate I agree but the discipline of getting something into print helps focus on what the outcomes are intended to be. #cmechat
meducate Following up on quality, #CMEChat Q4 How can we best use ongoing government initiatives (data) in our CME acti… (cont) t.co/pFWkoSOO
kenny_cox @dean_jenkins Publication plan is a crucial element - exposure always increases focus on quality #cmechat
meducate Q4 on its way....#cmechat
meducate @dean_jenkins #cmechat if only that everything that was published was of high quality (no offense...)
meducate @MedPedsDoctor Maybe so, but what to you compare the patient/population results to? What standards exist? @#cmechat
dean_jenkins Q3 Of the CME collaborations I've been involved with we always aim to publish something. Publicity helps the focus on quality. #cmechat
JediPD @CECSarahG @meducate Industry self-capitalizes on marketing via "rudder-less" individuals. #CMEchat
dean_jenkins Q3 Off the CME collaborations I've been involved with we always aim to publish something. Publicity helps the focus on quality. #cmechat
meducate @spelletier #cmechat Touche!
MedPedsDoctor Q3. External CME quality measure: Impact on patients/populations. Hardest to achieve or "see", though. #cmechat
spelletier @meducate delay due to reading 35-page pdf you just posted ;> #cmechat
meducate Looks like Q3 has caused a delay in the action #cmechat
meducate I think that we need internal and external quality measures in CME #cmechat
meducate For Q3 See t.co/uKvKyv1I #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Q3. Quality measures: if they come back next year! #cmechat
CECSarahG Commercialism = funding from people who want us to do infomercials for them. @meducate #CMEchat
JediPD @dean_jenkins Recently charged. All four came (forces) together for that one #CMEchat
meducate Autonomic maybe...RT @dean_jenkins: Commercialism? I thought we were an autonomous collective? #cmechat
dean_jenkins Commercialism? I thought we were an autonomous collective? #cmechat
meducate #CMEChat Q3 What do you use as quality measures for the CME activities that you are involved in developing, funding, etc.?
meducate Staying on time so here comes Q3 #cmechat
CECSarahG Looks like I need to duck out early today. Sorry, was enjoying the #CMEchat
meducate Exactly. I often post with the #mentoring hashtag RT @JediPD: Passion <~> #mentoring #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor Educational Professionalism: t.co/y9WfMids #cmechat
dean_jenkins RT @CECSarahG: Getting the commercialism out of CME should raise the educational professionalism. Paying the bills, though... #cmechat
meducate @CECSarahG #CMEChat What exactly do you mean by commercialism?
dean_jenkins sounds good RT @meducate: @dean_jenkins #mentoring is an area of great interest...we should think about that as a future topic! #cmechat
JediPD Passion <~> #mentoring #CMEchat
CECSarahG Getting the commercialism out of CME should raise the educational professionalism. Paying the bills, though... @meducate #CMEChat
meducate I'm getting ready to tee up Q3 #cmechat — is the pace ok for everyone?
dean_jenkins @JediPD very deep ... the force is strong, ;-) #cmechat
meducate @dean_jenkins #mentoring is an area of great interest...we should think about that as a future topic! #cmechat
JediPD @meducate @dean_jenkins Thought Math was based on Philosophy and Axioms and Medicine is caught in that crossfire #CMEchat
mtmdphd RT @bestdoctors: Join > 50 physicians for super star panel/webinar tomorrow - Physicians 2.0 bit.ly/ulbcF6 feat @hjluks @drmikesevilla @mtmdphd #cmechat
spelletier Q2 gaming industry also should have a lot we could learn from #cmechat
dean_jenkins Q2 mentoring on this course at the moment t.co/UHDkGWvA find that useful for ideas in CME too. #cmechat
meducate Is educational professionalism missing in a lot of CME? #CMEChat
meducate Philosophy is also a good basis RT @dean_jenkins: Q2 medicine endures of course but the facts change ... unlike in maths. #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor Educational Professionalism: @ABIMFoundation has done a lot. Also, Arnold P. Gold Foundation has a RFP. #cmechat
spelletier Q2 One would help educational field in general would have some good things to build on #cmechat
dean_jenkins Q2 medicine endures of course but the facts change ... unlike in maths. #cmechat
meducate TOTD (completely self-serving vote) RT @JediPD: @meducate Now I know why some of your tweets are humorous. #CMEchat
JediPD @meducate Now I know why some of your tweets are humorous. #CMEchat
meducate @spelletier #cmechat Marketing and education sharing is a two-way street...I have taught and learned a lot from marketeers
kenny_cox #cmechat Just sat through a talk on media use that had many applications RE cme and how HCP learn
dean_jenkins Q2 Always found the maths world a fascinating one for ideas. They deal with something that endures (unlike medicine) so have time. #cmechat
spelletier Q2 marketing also delving into neuroscience of learning, which is interesting #cmechat
kenny_cox #cmechat - Agree @spelletier looking at the mrkting field for advances in communicating-educating-excellent resource for research
dean_jenkins @meducate #digitalscholar - think open, networked and digital and apply it to scholarly functions. #cmechat
meducate Q2 #cmechat Some of my best educational lessons were learned during my time as a comedian. How to know, read and impact an audience...
JediPD Intrigue is a way to captivate the initiated #CMEchat
spelletier Lots of marketing research on how to best get messages across, how ppl learn, how to change behavior #cmechat
meducate @dean_jenkins #cmechat What are your key takeaways from the book?
dean_jenkins Q2 Been reading @mweller's #digitalscholar lately and found it very interesting. #cmechat
meducate @spelletier #cmechat can you expand a little?
spelletier Q2 this will sound weird, but marketing field always is at forefront of "education" in a sense #cmechat
meducate @JediPD #cmechat Absolutely, and we are all self-directed. I look outside of CME and medicine for lessons that i can bring back in
JediPD Q2: Lifelong learning is a personal ambition, no? #CMEchat
meducate OK, folks...Q2 has been posted #cmechat - switch gears when you can...
meducate @dean_jenkins #CMEChat...me too...geolocation at events and online is very interesting
kenny_cox #cmechat - always good to engage the attendees with ? upfront about tw use - ARS is a good way to get them thinking about utilization
dean_jenkins @MedPedsDoctor try harder next time! #cmechat
meducate @MedPedsDoctor #CMEChat - those folks didn't get it...meeting tweeting broadens the reach and reinforces learning. Keep it up!
dean_jenkins @meducate I'm getting quite interested in fsci's per minute (foursquare checkins) too. #cmechat
JediPD @meducate @medpedsdoctor Can the Server handle the traffic? #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor When I left #aamc11 , I had posted a significant # of tweets. Had a few saying "you tweeted too much" (but no fail whale) #cmechat
meducate #CMEChat Q2 Where can we look outside of the paucity of CME literature to learn about lifelong learning and educational professionalism?
meducate Ready for Q2?? #CMEChat...here it is...
meducate @kenny_cox #cmechat The opportunities and challenges are relatively equal globally in my experience
dean_jenkins Q1 We've also found that doing collaborations in an educational research context are very helpful. #cmechat
meducate @MedPedsDoctor #cmechat I don't think so, but would be interesting. I am interested in TPMs (tweets per minute)
kenny_cox #cmechat - Do you see a greater challenge with Europe - Asia - ? What system is the biggest challenge?
MedPedsDoctor Has anyone studied the impact of using Tw hashtags at meetings in a formal sense? # of tweets, # of links posted, etc.? #cmechat
dean_jenkins Q1 A strong personal network of trust is essential before embarking on a collaboration OR a very keen sponsor upfront. :-) #cmechat
meducate Q2 #CMEChat coming up soon...very different topic from Q1...oh, and hi @spelletier
meducate @spelletier #CMEChat Those discussions focused on harmonization...that isn't what is needed. Smart collaborations and local ed is better
JediPD Webcasts, Podcasts are great, but a Tweeable interactive forum for live Q&A with links from presenter would be great! #CMEchat
CECSarahG T1. We get some global traffic, since we're web-centered. Challenge has been broadening fields to accommodate non-US info. #cmechat
dean_jenkins @meducate don't start trying to explain European CME ... we'll be here all day. :-) #cmechat
spelletier Sue coming in late. t1 remember talking about this at GAME: agreeing on a common language/terms is key #cmechat
meducate @meducate #CMEchat But not everywhere in Europe!
meducate @JediPD #cmechat Accreditation is often the toughest depending where you are geographically...in Europe events are accredited, not providers
meducate @MedPedsDoctor #cmechat @mathena123 and I just had an abstract accepted on that topic for #cmecongress2012 and I have posted presos abt this
JediPD @dean_jenkins Agree Ego, Money & Accreditation (in that order perhaps?) #CMEchat
MedPedsDoctor One great collaboration to consider: how to foster use of SoMe for CME purposes. Students are doing it: how about clinicians? #cmechat
meducate @kenny_cox #cmechat Understanding roles, not trying to make content fit if the needs are different, avoiding turf wars
meducate @dean_jenkins #cmechat yes, they do tend to be obstacles, but there was more hope than in the past this year
kenny_cox What are some of the pitfalls for collaborations globally? #cmechat
meducate Better link t.co/Vaym7N51 #cmechat Check it in a couple of weeks
dean_jenkins Q1 I get the feeling that money, accreditation and ego sometimes get in the way of creativity in CME collaboration. ;-) #cmechat
meducate Check europeancmeforum.eu RT @kenny_cox: “@meducate: For those not at #4ecf - are the presentations posted anywhere? #cmechat
MedPedsDoctor sorry, my meeting ran over a bit. Alex Djuricich, from Indianapolis, ready to tweet about CME #cmechat
meducate @DownstateCME #cmechat Various stakeholders like societies, accrediting bodies and providers looking for best practices in global collab
kenny_cox “@meducate: For those not at #4ecf - are the presentations posted anywhere? #cmechat
meducate Q1 #cmechat I find that there are intersesting collaborative opportunities globally...agree that there are challenges too
DownstateCME Edeline fm Brooklyn here; T1:was not at #4ecf, what was the topic for collaboration? #cmechat
dean_jenkins Q1 opportunities are there for collaboration certainly. We (BMJ) have done a number over past few years but there are challenges. #cmechat
JediPD @dean_jenkins Hi there! #CMEchat
meducate For those not at #4ecf last week, there were interesting presentations about how to collaborate in CME in Europe #cmechat
dean_jenkins collaboration? RT @kenny_cox: Ready to go! @dean_jenkins: That makes a handful. Shall we just go down the pub then? #cmechat
meducate Perhaps you've all headed for the pub...no responses yet to Q1 #cmechat
kenny_cox Ready to go! @dean_jenkins: That makes a handful. Shall we just go down the pub then? #cmechat
dean_jenkins Hello @JediPD #cmechat
meducate #CMEChat Q1 What are the opportunities for global collaboration and partnership in CME. Was a hot topic at #4ECF last week
meducate For this week's #cmechat I have a mix of topics...
meducate Ah! Two more people...I can now post the first question for #cmechat
JediPD Present lurkommunicating #CMEchat
dean_jenkins That makes a handful. Shall we just go down the pub then? #cmechat
CECSarahG Greetings from t.co/rjdmmgt9 in Lexington, KY. #cmechat
meducate I will wait a minute or two to see if anyone else joins #cmechat
meducate Hey @kenny_cox #cmechat
kenny_cox #cmechat - Kenny here. Struggling with bad connection. Looks like it will be a quiet day
meducate @dean_jenkins I wonder if it will be just you and I? #cmechat Thanks re @audioboo
dean_jenkins I'm here. Liked the audioboo intro. #cmechat
meducate I've seen Dean, who is over in Cornwall whilst I am in London...#closebutnocigar #CMEChat
meducate OK, then, with those out of the way...who is in for #CMEChat today?
meducate As with each #CMEchat the archive will be available at t.co/UR6mRups and archived as a pdf on www.CMEadvocate.com
meducate As with each #CMEchat we will guide the convo with 3 or 4 topics, but the real learning and teaching lies in your tweets - please engage.
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meducate Welcome to #CMEchat. All discussions herein are assumed to be personal opinion & not that of current, past, or future employers.
dean_jenkins Hello from Cornwall, UK. #cmechat
meducate Less than a minute until #CMEChat
meducate Wondering what kind of crowd we will get for #cmechat today....
meducate #CMEChat in 18 minutes...
meducate Just about an hour to go...Preview of #CMEChat Week 33 t.co/MgpwcbMN, via @Audioboo app

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