#CMEchat 59: How does 'motivation' affect our educational planning?
(1
of 2) We talk about behavior change a lot w/i CME, but w/o motivation there can
be no behavior change... #CMEchat
(2
of 2) …today we’ll explore how motivation affects behavior change “behind the
scenes” – looking at motivation w/i our planning #CMEchat
T1
In general, what do you feel fuels motivation? And, how comfortable are you
with the idea of “affecting” one’s motivations? #CMEchat
T2
In general, how does ‘motivation’ impact your CME planning efforts? Think:
about staff, faculty, or learner motivation? #CMEchat
T3
How might you motivate FACULTY to become better facilitators? How do you deal
with unmotivated faculty? #cmechat
T4
How might you motivate LEARNERS to become more engaged learners? How do you
deal with unmotivated learners? #cmechat
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BrianSMcGowan Good
morning to the #CMEchat-ters. Very motivated to have this conversation this
morning. How about you?
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
I see what you dd there. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan Brian
here in foggy but mild southeastern pennsylvania. #CMEchat.
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy
;-) #cmechat
Savvy_CME Pam
from oddly warm DC metro area, focused on compliance and accreditation but
interested in behavior change (not just my own) #CMEchat
theCMEguy Derek
in dreary Chestnut Hill. At least it's not freezing. #CMEchat
meducate #cmechat
Lawrence here in increasingly sunny Long Island before I drive to foggy
Pennsylvania
BrianSMcGowan @Savvy_CME
- long time, no see. Welcome #CMEchat
rmtyner Michelle
from frigid Indiana... #cmechat
theCMEguy @meducate
Hey, don't blame us #CMEchat
triciawil @BrianSMcGowan
Good morning! Tricia here, in rainy
Charlottesville... #cmechat
improvecme #cmechat
Derek in freezing Arizona
BrianSMcGowan Looks
like everyone is gathering nicely...welcome to Derek and lawrence and tricia,
Michells, Derek (2), and Haley! #CMEchat
CMEChat (1
of 2) We talk about behavior change a lot w/i CME, but w/o motivation there can
be no behavior change... #CMEchat
CMEChat (2
of 2) …today we’ll explore how motivation affects behavior change “behind
the scenes†–
looking at motivation w/i our planning #CMEchat
theCMEguy Really?
What 's freezing in AZ? 60? :-) RT @improvecme: #cmechat Derek in freezing
Arizona
BrianSMcGowan AZ
if? RT @theCMEguy: Really? What 's freezing in AZ? 60? :-) RT @improvecme:
#cmechat Derek in freezing Arizona
meducate @theCMEguy
@improvecme #cmechat Yes, but it is a DRY cool
CMEChat T1
In general, what do you feel fuels motivation? And, how comfortable are you
with the idea of “affecting†one’s motivations? #CMEchat
improvecme #cmechat
In AZ in the 20s past 3 nights. Loosing our citrus.
ArdgillanGroup Mornin'
all, Karen here from foggy Philly! #CMEchat
theCMEguy Wow!
Really? Yikes... RT @improvecme: #cmechat In AZ in the 20s past 3 nights.
Loosing our citrus.
BrianSMcGowan t1
- I am a student of @bjfogg and @DanielPink - and I like to think about how
motivation impacts learning...#CMEchat
meducate RT
@meducate: T1 Motivation comes from comfort "I agree with that" or
discomfort/cognitive dissonance "That's not me" #cmechat
rmtyner T1
considering motivation of target audience is critical when developing a needs
assessment #cmechat
improvecme T1
Motivation to learn fueled by many different things, but desired to solve a
problem/challenge an important one. #cmechat
theCMEguy T1:
Seems hard to generalize motivation. Aren't we all motivated by different
things? #CMEchat
Savvy_CME T1: I
think nowadays, what fuels motivation is the lack of time barrier- efficiency
is ruling. #CMEchat
meducate T1
#cmechat You also have to know your audience...we fail at this in CME in many
cases
BrianSMcGowan t1:
Motivation comes in many flavors...but it seems most critical to this
discussion is 'intrinsic' vs 'extrinsic' forms #CMEchat
improvecme T
Perhaps we can affect motivations by teaching learners to think about how their
motivations affect their learning & performance. #cmechat
triciawil @theCMEguy It
depends on what the goal is... #cmechat
nlafferty Hello
#cmechat from Dundee, Scotland, I suspect I will be mostly lurking on this
week's chat
CMEChat .@theCMEguy
- sure, but like what? let the ideas flow! #CMEchat
Savvy_CME T1: If
it improves patient care (and not just the bottom line) I don't see a problem
with affecting motivation, creating incentives #CMEchat
theCMEguy T1: In
CME, many motivated by: "I have a problem, how can I solve it?"
#cmechat
meducate @nlafferty
Glad that you made it to #cmechat, Natalie!
Dundee is the location of some good #meded
BrianSMcGowan #inception
RT @improvecme: T Perhaps we can affect motivations by teaching learners to
think about how their motivations... #cmechat
nlafferty "
@meducate: @nlafferty Glad that you made it to #cmechat, Natalie! Dundee is the location of some good
#meded" Indeed :)
Savvy_CME T1:
Perhaps motivation should be the first question in a pre-test, before "do
you know where a spleen is?" and other softballs #CMEchat
meducate T1
#cmechat Learners need a reason to be motivated
BrianSMcGowan t1:
when I origincally wrote this topic, i thought of using the word 'manipulating'
one's motivation...is that fair? #CMEchat
theCMEguy T1:
and some are motivated by factors such as "uh oh...I need to get 5 more
credits to meet requirements..." #cmechat #honesty
BrianSMcGowan huh?
RT @meducate: T1 #cmechat Learners need a reason to be motivated
Savvy_CME @BrianSMcGowan
Leading a horse to water, not making them drink... #CMEchat
meducate T1
#cmechat Manipulation connotates something bad (or chiropractic). It isn't manipulation that we are doing, it's
encouraging
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
Sure. This is why we offer incentives for surveys, etc... #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
fear is a great motivator, no? seems that there is a slippery slope b/w causing
cognitive dissonance and fear... #CMEchat
Savvy_CME @theCMEguy
And some are motivated by factors of "I'm losing money, I want to learn
how to make more" #CMEChat #overlyhonestCME
triciawil T1 #cmechat
I'd like to think the motivation is self-improvement...
rmtyner T1
too much fear could result in no action at all
#cmechat
improvecme T1 Some
other motivations: I need credit, I have competition/want 2 b better than them,
I want 2 provide better care for X patients #cmechat
meducate @BrianSMcGowan
T1 #cmechat I mentioned that earlier - either comfort or discomfort can motivate
BrianSMcGowan Mastery
is a great fuel for motivation. agreed! RT @triciawil: T1 #cmechat I'd like to
think the motivation is self-improvement...
BrianSMcGowan same
w/ too much dissonance, no? RT @rmtyner: T1 too much fear could result in no
action at all #cmechat
Savvy_CME .@BrianSMcGowan
What are they afraid of? Getting sued?
#CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan i
see that is a pretty big stick, but wld you ever use it? RT @Savvy_CME:
.@BrianSMcGowan What are they afraid of?
Getting sued? #CMEchat
theCMEguy Ideally
it is. Not always the case, tho RT @triciawil: T1 #cmechat I'd like to think
the motivation is self-improvement...
meducate Well,
you have exposed yourself! Welcome! RT
@carvicab: Lurking #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan T1:
@DanielPink talks about intrinsic motivations
being MUCH more important: Autonomy, Mastery, Purpose - key in medicine.
#CMEchat
CMEChat T2
In general, how does ‘motivation’ impact your CME planning efforts? Think:
about staff, faculty, or learner motivation? #CMEchat
triciawil Agreed RT @theCMEguy:
Ideally it is. Not always the case, tho RT @triciawil: T1 #cmechat
improvecme T1
Another motivation: save money (i.e., reduce malpractice insurance costs) by
taking specific CME. #cmechat
nlafferty @carvicab
You're not alone! #cmechat
theCMEguy .
@Savvy_CME made a good point before: if the bottom line is improved patient
care, does the root of motivation matter? #cmechat
CMEChat t1:
i wld also think Autonomy, Mastery, Purpose - would be key in learning too!
Might I suggest Drive t.co/HLkwfKlE #CMEchat
ArdgillanGroup Fear of
litigation - issue on Pain management
#REMS #CMEchat Education on screening
and documentation can be the carrot.
theCMEguy @HaleyMarie3
Agreed and I have no problem with that being the motivation... #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @HaleyMarie3
- makes you consider whether altruism is a motivator in medicine...or is it
always #WIIFM? #cmechat
Savvy_CME T2:
Motivation- better content (not just recycled stuff), engaging faculty,
improved formats, interactivity (ARS) = learner :) #CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
@HaleyMarie3 I would think it's a combo of both for many, no? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan I
think when you are dealing with life or death behaviors (like medicine) the
idea of motivation in learning can be very delicate! #CMEchat
ArdgillanGroup Feedback! #WIIFM?
#cmechat personalized reports?
rmtyner T2
IMO the time constraints challenge the altruism - even more important to
consider motivation #cmechat
triciawil @CMEChat
Thanks for the suggestion - will download it! #cmechat
Motivology rt
@rmtyner2013T2 IMO the time constraints challenge the altruism - even more
important to consider motivation #cmechat
#motivology
BrianSMcGowan t2:
we 'want' learners to sit in the front of the room...how do we motivate this
behavior? #CMEchat #startsimple...
BrianSMcGowan t2:
we want learners to engage in small group breakouts and not leave the room, how
do we motivate that? @theCMEguy #CMEchat
Savvy_CME .@BrianSMcGowan
keep all the plugs and outlets at the front of the room...maybe some comfy
chairs. #CMEchat
ArdgillanGroup Ask
learners to declare their goals ? #cmechat
rmtyner T2
i think that engaging the learners comes from the content - not the same old
presentation - and interactive faculty #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t2
- @rmtyner shared an old Fox paper that explored perceived vs actual needs
fueling motivation. #heartofmotivation #CMEchat
improvecme T2
What's the value in motivating the behavior to sit at front of the room if the
CME is not designed to be interactive/engaging? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t2
- we have questioned learners self assessment for years, but their flawed
assessment is their perception #truth #motivation #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @improvecme
- touche! #cmechat
rmtyner +1
MT @improvecme: T2 Whats value motivating behavior to sit at front of room if
CME is not designed to be interactive/engaging? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t2:
but we want faculty to engage vs lecture, how do we leverage motivation to
drive this behavior? #CMEchat
triciawil T2 #cmechat
@BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy IMO small group breakouts involve a balancing act to
engage introverts & extroverts
CMEChat Lets
get a bit more specific with T3...#CMEchat
elearningCME t2: I'd
rather have audience interact with peers than me depending on size of audience.
Front of room overrated. #cmechat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
Explain, encourage, and understand. You can't motivate someone to do someting
they really don't like. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @elearningCME
- i'd rather not interact with you either ;-) #cmechat
rmtyner T2
assessment should be more quantitative - with right & wrong answers -
if i only got 3 out of 10 right maybe something is wrong?? #cmechat
elearningCME Touche!
RT @BrianSMcGowan: @elearningCME - i'd rather not interact with you either ;-)
#cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy
- but isn't that the heart of the question. are you sure you can't? I think you
can, but should you and when? #cmechat
CMEChat T3
How might you motivate FACULTY to become better facilitators? How do you deal
with unmotivated faculty? #cmechat
theCMEguy Yes RT
@elearningCME: t2: I'd rather have audience interact w/ peers than me depending
on size of audience. Front of room overrated #cmechat
improvecme T2 Take
the opportunity to tell learners about adult learning and how to optimize it.
What evidence shows aids their learning. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @improvecme
- think there is something to the adage of showing them vs telling them, no? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t3:
what motivates faculty to accept speaking engagements in the first place?
Critical first piece of the puzzle, no? #CMEchat
elearningCME T3:
Unmotivated faculty...take them out back and.... #cmechat
rmtyner T3
creating a faculty that is interested in teaching is the first step in
motivating the learner #cmechat
meducate Go
Brooklyn on them! RT @elearningCME: T3: Unmotivated faculty...take them out
back and.... #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t3:
If you want to teach, we can help you teach better! If you want the
prestige/fame, then ba-bye. #CMEchat
rmtyner RT
@elearningCME: T3: Unmotivated faculty...take them out back and.... #cmechat
theCMEguy T3:
Have found sharing eval results with faculty can sometimes be a motivator,
particularly when comments are harsh... #cmechat
ArdgillanGroup T3
motivate faculty by engaging them every step - planning, thro assessment and
report/pub, not "will you give your
xx talk" #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan #TOTD
RT @ArdgillanGroup: T3 motivate faculty by engaging them every step...not "will you give your xx talk"
#CMEchat
Savvy_CME T3:
Motivate faculty with learner feedback, find a physician advocate/leader for unmotivated
faculty- often it takes peer-to-peer #CMEchat
meducate T3
#cmechat Faculty need to behave as #goodeducators and be a part of the process
DrPlumEU RT
@rmtyner: RT @elearningCME: T3: Unmotivated faculty...take them out back
and.... #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t3:
Has anyone ever asked the faculty, what motivates you to travel so much, to
'lecture' so much? Any guesses? #CMEchat
elearningCME T3:
Good suggestions but if they don't work? Are you ok with that? If you're not
okay, don't use that faculty. #cmechat
Savvy_CME T3:
Take the "who cares" info out of evaluation results to send to
faculty- beyond just hot/cold room. Tease out what learners want #CMEchat
theCMEguy T3: a
strong program director can make a difference with unmotivated faculty.
Sometimes they need a peer to give kick in the *ahem* #cmechat
CMEChat T1-T3:
(you guys and gals are knocking the cover off the ball!) #CMEchat
improvecme T3 Old
method-contract faculty who give canned presentation. New method-engage faculty
in uncovering gaps/ask them 2 help fill gaps #cmechat
elearningCME Prestige.
Attention. RT @BrianSMcGowan: t3: Has anyone asked the faculty, what motivates
you to traveland 'lecture'? Any guesses? #CMEchat
DrPlumEU @meducate
#cmechat Am GP in UK who teaches medical students. Overcoming isolation of community teachers is
important How to do this well?
ArdgillanGroup @BrianSMcGowan
re:travel. Reasons vary from $ to career development to delight in interaction
and teaching #CMEchat
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
Are we dancing around the $$$ issue? #CMEchat #softshoe
BrianSMcGowan T3:
Ask you faculty b4 confirming: Are there good motivations, can you use them?
Are there bad motivations, can you replace them? #CMEchat
meducate @DrPlumEU
#cmechat There are several strategies for that - collaborative teaching, team
up with visiting professors, provide ed tools
elearningCME t3 - My
experience is that organizers are afraid to confront the low performers...and
that's on us as educators...to try harder. #cmechat
DrPlumEU @ArdgillanGroup
@BrianSMcGowan As GP tutor it isn't money/career; it's pleasure of teaching
which is different from usual clinic #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy
- I dont think so... i turn down honorarium far more often than I accept it.
Money is not worth the hassles. #CMEchat #time
Savvy_CME T3:
Need leadership to step in: if a faculty member is dull, someone needs to light
a fire. #CMEchat
ArdgillanGroup @theCMEguyNot
sure $$ as big as before - losing $$ by leaving practice, honoraria capped,
institution rules, transparency #CMEchat
DrPlumEU @meducate
#cmechat best motivation for me is end of block assessment meetings with med
school faculty/physicians. Am only GP who does this
BrianSMcGowan t3:
as we move to #P4p then the money motivators will be derivative at
best...salaried is salaried. #CMEchat
meducate @DrPlumEU
#cmechat That is good for you but scary that no other GPs do this
theCMEguy @ArdgillanGroup
True, and some can't accept $ for speaking or it goes directly to dept.
#CMEchat
CMEChat Almost
time for the final topic.... #CMEchat
Savvy_CME T3:
Content should be reviewed for more than just content, bias, how about
redundancy? Ask if they've ever done presentation before #CMEchat
DrPlumEU @theCMEguy
@ArdgillanGroup #cmechat Any money earned in my activities (or those of
partners here) goes directly into practice income
theCMEguy T3:
Hey, maybe some faculty just like to teach others and THAT'S their
motivation... #CMEchat
improvecme T3 Some
suggested measures of faculty effectiveness: knowledge, competence &
performance change in CME part. Feed back 2 faculty. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @DrPlumEU
- ever think about where that 'pleasure' is rooted? Need more info is this is
to be 'scalable'... #cmechat
theCMEguy @DrPlumEU
@ArdgillanGroup Yes, this seems to be more and more common #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy
- IMO, that is not specific enough to 'use' ...need to understand the root of
the motivation... #CMEchat
DrPlumEU @Savvy_CME
#cmechat In community teaching very hard to be prescriptive - controlling what
is seen enormously difficult in general clinic
CMEChat T4
How might you motivate LEARNERS to become more engaged learners? How do you
deal with unmotivated learners? #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan T4
- to understand this question you have to accept that 'there is no learning
without motivation...' #CMEchat #deathtaxes&motivation
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
Disagree. Root of motivation is that they like to help people. That is the
motivator for some. #CMEchat
elearningCME T4 -
Important to determine why they are unmotivated. Is it not what they expected?
Is the learning compulsory? ??'s #cmechat
DrPlumEU @CMEChat
#cmechat T4 direct observed skills like examination/hx taking with debrief using
Pendleton Rules involving all the students
BrianSMcGowan t4:
the general assumption therefore is that the needs assessment process is
identifying a shared motivation to learn, no? #CMEchat
Savvy_CME T4:
Games sometimes help with interaction- whether through ARS or Jeopardy.
#CMEchat
improvecme T4
Can't force them but take some time at beginning of CME 2 explain why/how
& what kind of engagement will enhance their learning. #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy
- humbly disagree...the root would then be they feel 'purpose' or they feel
'prestige' #underlyingfeelings #CMEchat
DrPlumEU @BrianSMcGowan
#cmechat Student feedback at end of year is motivating. My students look
forward to coming to my practice; value what we do
ArdgillanGroup Not done
enough! RT @improvecme: take time at beginning of CME 2 explain why/how
& what kind of engagement will enhance learning. #cmechat
improvecme T4
Physicians may not think a lot about how they learn/translate it into practice.
Good 2 discuss it with them/ask 2 reflect on it #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan t4:
At least in the US Docs are supreme test takers...many love being tested vs
loving learning, agree? #CMEchat #motivation
theCMEguy T4:
Potential to increase engagement by offering multiple avenues of engagement
(open mic vs monitored Twitter stream) #cmechat
Savvy_CME T4-
I've used "intent to change" worksheets- "what do you hope to
change as a result of this activity?"- get them thinking. #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @improvecme
- could this be done at 'scale'? #cmechat
DrPlumEU @improvecme
T4 #cmechat Learning who the student is, where she/he comes from can overcome
inertia. Hospital drs often fail to do this
BrianSMcGowan #TOTD
RT @Savvy_CME: T4- [ask them] "what do you hope to change as a result of
this activity?"- get them thinking. #CMEchat
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T4- I've used "intent to change" worksheets- "what do you hope
to change as a result of this activity?"- get them thinking. #TOTD
theCMEguy @BrianSMcGowan
humbly disagree w/ your humble disagreement. Possible to "help"
someone without underlying motivation IMO #CMEchat
BrianSMcGowan @Savvy_CME
- but what if what they want to learn is NOT what I want to teach. They lose, I
win. #sadreality #CMEchat
ArdgillanGroup TOTD Yes
- get practical!RT @improvecme: T4 Phys may not think about how to translate
into practice. Good 2 discuss it or
reflect #cmechat
BrianSMcGowan Thanks
to all of you for coming out today for #CMEchat. Might be our highest TPM, but
clearly one of our best discussion!



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